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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:00 pm

Art Morte wrote:Ramsey not a nailed on starter Laughing

Ox is competing with Cazorla (and maybe later on Özil if he's indifferent once again).


Cazorla? not when he's playing CM next to Coquelin he ain't lol.

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Post by Jay29 Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:06 pm

The only way he's competing with Cazorla is if Ramsey replaces Cazorla at CM, therefore freeing up the right flank for somebody.

But even then, there's Wilshere, Welbeck and Walcott to consider. It'd be the same for LW were Alexis not to be available for whatever reason.

This is why it's so important for Ox to stay fit. If he ends up missing several weeks of a season again he'll fall right down the pecking order.

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Post by El Gunner Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:59 pm

We have so many options tbh.
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Post by Lex Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:00 pm

It's been years since we've had this problem. Feels good.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:04 pm

And maybe that's why it feels so strange. hmm
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Post by Sri Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:26 pm

.......and maybe that's why the next injury crisis is right around the corner.

3. Rosicky
2. Welbeck
1. Wilshere
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Let's go!

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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:36 pm

Art Morte wrote:Ramsey not a nailed on starter Laughing

Ox is competing with Cazorla (and maybe later on Özil if he's indifferent once again).


Why do you speak about things you know nothing about?

Oxlade-Chamberlain competing with Cazorla and Özil :facepalm:
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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:06 pm

Oxlade is competing for a spot at LW/RW and if injuries beckon, CM.

Ozil is an undisputed starter along with Sanchez and Ramsey. Rest depends on form.

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Post by MJ Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:52 am

Untouchable players atm are Cech, Kos, Coquelin, Sanchez and Özil.

Everyone else has competition and/or can be moved out of position/to the bench to accommodate others.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:06 am

MJ wrote:Untouchable players atm are Cech, Kos, Coquelin, Sanchez and Özil.

Everyone else has competition and/or can be moved out of position/to the bench to accommodate others.


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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:32 am

Nobody is untouchable in a truly competitive environment. Form (and injuries and suspension) dictates who plays.

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Post by MJ Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:27 am

srigooner wrote:Nobody is untouchable in a truly competitive environment. Form (and injuries and suspension) dictates who plays.


Ideally, yes. Realistically, you don't see those players having their places taken from them.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:41 am

MJ wrote:
srigooner wrote:Nobody is untouchable in a truly competitive environment. Form (and injuries and suspension) dictates who plays.


Ideally, yes. Realistically, you don't see those players having their places taken from them.


Rotation though. With these attacking midfield options, Özil, and neither Alexis, really don't have to start every game.
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:38 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MJ wrote:
srigooner wrote:Nobody is untouchable in a truly competitive environment. Form (and injuries and suspension) dictates who plays.


Ideally, yes. Realistically, you don't see those players having their places taken from them.


Rotation though. With these attacking midfield options, Özil, and neither Alexis, really don't have to start every game.


Wenger. Rotation. Sure Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:41 pm

MJ wrote:Untouchable players atm are Cech, Kos, Coquelin, Sanchez and Özil.

Everyone else has competition and/or can be moved out of position/to the bench to accommodate others.


Cazorla is untouchable, you wouldn't win the league without him playing CM and Wenger knows it. I'd argue Ramsey is pretty damn close to untouchable as well as is Mertesacker.

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:55 pm

So much discrimination here Sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:01 pm

:coffee:

But seriously it's natural, Chelsea have about 8 players which are never getting dropped Laughing
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Post by MJ Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:09 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
MJ wrote:
srigooner wrote:Nobody is untouchable in a truly competitive environment. Form (and injuries and suspension) dictates who plays.


Ideally, yes. Realistically, you don't see those players having their places taken from them.


Rotation though. With these attacking midfield options, Özil, and neither Alexis, really don't have to start every game.


Of course not and for cup games/ midweek games vs lower sides or whatever, you'd hope Wenger would give them breaks when needed. Our depth is now good enough quality that we can afford our starters rest but these players have their places secure as key figures is what I mean.

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MJ wrote:Untouchable players atm are Cech, Kos, Coquelin, Sanchez and Özil.

Everyone else has competition and/or can be moved out of position/to the bench to accommodate others.


Cazorla is untouchable, you wouldn't win the league without him playing CM and Wenger knows it. I'd argue Ramsey is pretty damn close to untouchable as well as is Mertesacker.



I want to include Santi as well as he was incredible when he was pushed deep last season but I can see him having competition for his place or being fielded elsewhere to get Rambo/Jack in.

Ramsey is also shoo in to make the starting XI but because he was deployed on the right, that's why I don't see him as untouchable in the same way as Coquelin who has to play in the hole, for example.
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:14 pm

Basically, everyone is touchable.

Except probably Özil. He's Wenger's newfound son. He's what that snake Fabreglass could have become but never did.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:17 pm

srigooner wrote:Basically, everyone is touchable.


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Post by MJ Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:19 pm

srigooner wrote:Basically, everyone is touchable.

Gibbs/Nacho, Bellerin/Debuchy, Per/Gabriel, Theo/Giroud/Welbeck, Ox/Theo, Jack/Ramsey/Cazorla.

Those are the players who are really competing with each other atm imo. Didn't include Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini because the former slapped Wenger's mom and is therefore never allowed to be on the pitch again and the latter two are here to be captain and socialize with Özil.
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:22 pm

Rosicky just be mentoring his way around brah. No slapping involved. I can confirm. He's such a calm, peaceful guy with his hard/metal rock and stuff. I am shocked that you'd say that.

Flamini doe Very Happy

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Post by Sri Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:24 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
srigooner wrote:Basically, everyone is touchable.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchability

It's discriminatory, elsewise. :coffee:

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Post by REWB Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:09 pm

Needs to go out on loan and I am not too sure he will make it at arsenal. He actually has no footballing brain...and we all used to think walcott was dumb at his age lol, he was einstein compared to this guy. Campbell did more in 10 min than oxlade in 2015.

He just hasnt developed his brain at all, both him and wilshere are very unintelligent footballers, pretty much the brittish core we have are average bar ramsey who's walsh.
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Post by Sri Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:13 pm

REWB wrote:pretty much the brittish core we have are average bar ramsey who's walsh.


exactly what I was thinking

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Post by T-Mach Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:46 pm

Aren't we jumping the gun here?
Guess Chamberlain needs to have a full season under his belt IMO,which he unfortunately get @ Arsenal.Maybe a Jenko type loan should do him good.

But the initial promise that the Brit core showed seems to be fading away too soon.
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