Brendan Rodgers new Liverpool manager

Bullshit. You had your Moyes for a year.

We've suffered enough.

That's the problem with the two clubs. United has no acceptance of mediocrity and Liverpool just accepts it because "next year is ours" etc.

El Shaarawy wrote:Klopp is interested in becoming Liverpool's manager (BILD)

If things keep up it shouldn't be long now (assuming the interest is legitimate).

Curtinho wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:Klopp is interested in becoming Liverpool's manager (BILD)

If things keep up it shouldn't be long now (assuming the interest is legitimate).

You really think Rodgers is close to being sacked? It's quite early tbh.

However this

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is considering keeping his senior players at home when his squad travels to Bordeaux for their Europa League tie this afternoon.

Rodgers is finalising his squad this morning, but he is expected to omit striker Christian Benteke and acting captain James Milner from the travelling party.

There are also decisions to be made on the likes of Nathaniel Clyne and Martin Skrtel as the manager weighs up where the Europa League currently sits in the list of priorities.

Rodgers desperately needs a shift in momentum after two consecutive defeats, but he also knows this weekend’s Premier League fixture with Norwich is of greater importance than the opening game in the Europa League group.

is embarrassing if true

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11868179/Brendan-Rodgers-set-to-leave-Liverpool-cavalry-at-home-for-Bordeaux-trip.html

Lololol your signature Hans. Can't take your posts seriously cos of that.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Curtinho wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:Klopp is interested in becoming Liverpool's manager (BILD)

If things keep up it shouldn't be long now (assuming the interest is legitimate).

You really think Rodgers is close to being sacked? It's quite early tbh.

However this

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is considering keeping his senior players at home when his squad travels to Bordeaux for their Europa League tie this afternoon.

Rodgers is finalising his squad this morning, but he is expected to omit striker Christian Benteke and acting captain James Milner from the travelling party.

There are also decisions to be made on the likes of Nathaniel Clyne and Martin Skrtel as the manager weighs up where the Europa League currently sits in the list of priorities.

Rodgers desperately needs a shift in momentum after two consecutive defeats, but he also knows this weekend’s Premier League fixture with Norwich is of greater importance than the opening game in the Europa League group.

is embarrassing if true

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11868179/Brendan-Rodgers-set-to-leave-Liverpool-cavalry-at-home-for-Bordeaux-trip.html

During the pre-season, Rodgers actually said that the EL would be a great platform for young players.

I don't think that Rodgers is close to being sacked based on this season's form alone, but carry over from last season means that he's walking a fine line. Everyone knew going in this season is make or break for him. He gave himself a bit of leeway with his previous success (though some people would argue against it being down to him) so you could make excuses for last season given the misfortunes that Liverpool had (injury, poor player replacement, team in transition, more fixtures, etc.) but even though some of those things still apply it's time to show that he's capable of moulding a team to be competitive without Suarez. Losing to teams like United away or drawing Arsenal is not so bad BUT the way the team has played, and how they've looked against Stoke, West Ham and Bournemouth (despite baggage from last season) isn't acceptable.

Basically Rodgers needs to show that he can be flexible, adjust to his mistakes from last season and smart in his player management ASAP or he will be sacked (and deservedly so). It's still early and Liverpool are not in a bad position despite a very tough start to the season in terms of fixtures, so it's not like you have to give up on Rodgers or the season based on what has happened so far but his future isn't looking promising based on the on field product to this point.

I think 2 more defeats and he might be sacked

I am not sure what exactly is the aim for Liverpool for this season? top 4?

I think a lot of fans will tell you top 4, but I think realistically we will hope for top 4 and a trophy (which are both certainly attainable) but 'expectations' should be deep in all cup competitions and finishing top 5. It's not realistic to have a base expectation that we will end in the top 4 given the strength of the other teams competing for top 4 relative to us. I think we're just as strong as Arsenal and United in terms of overall team strength (which is where injuries and managers come into play) so top 4 is not an unrealistic goal, but as an expectation I think it's a bit entitled.

Curtinho wrote:I don't think that Rodgers is close to being sacked based on this season's form alone, but carry over from last season means that he's walking a fine line. Everyone knew going in this season is make or break for him. He gave himself a bit of leeway with his previous success (though some people would argue against it being down to him) so you could make excuses for last season given the misfortunes that Liverpool had (injury, poor player replacement, team in transition, more fixtures, etc.) but even though some of those things still apply it's time to show that he's capable of moulding a team to be competitive without Suarez. Losing to teams like United away or drawing Arsenal is not so bad BUT the way the team has played, and how they've looked against Stoke, West Ham and Bournemouth (despite baggage from last season) isn't acceptable.

Basically Rodgers needs to show that he can be flexible, adjust to his mistakes from last season and smart in his player management ASAP or he will be sacked (and deservedly so). It's still early and Liverpool are not in a bad position despite a very tough start to the season in terms of fixtures, so it's not like you have to give up on Rodgers or the season based on what has happened so far but his future isn't looking promising based on the on field product to this point.

Fair enough.

How last season ended casts a shadow I guess, and should, as you say. Things like the points dropped against weak teams when top 4 was attainable and the resounding home loss in Gerrard last game etc were bad signs.

Agree that so far nothing is lost, and agree about the 'entitlement' to top 4 being a bit too much expectation, given the last decade of the club.

But if CL is not a prerequisite goal, Liverpool should establish themselves on the border to being a CL club, i.e. a strong showing in the EL should be a must imo.
Not to forget EL title means CL quali.

It's all nice to give youngsters a chance away at Bordeaux, but it's a gamble.
We'll see if it works.
Because if Rodgers throws away your EL with the reason to rest the first team for fixtures like Norwich, I don't think he's fit to coach a top team, or one that aspires to be a top team.
A club like Liverpool with its financial means and its squad should be able to fully compete for both EL and the upper league places (i.e. Europe quali). Period.

An away loss at Old Trafford without your 2 most important players should not be a sacking offense though.

United are our biggest rivals. Losing to them and acting like everything is fine and dandy and saying at least we did better than last year is a sackable offense imo.

But regardless. It's not why Rodgers is under pressure. It's losing at home 0-3 to West Ham that's put him there. It's losing at home to Crystal Palace 1-3 in a legends last home match that's put him there. It's losing 1-6 to Stoke of all teams. Championship teams would be embarrassed losing that badly to those average teams. Not only should we not be getting beat that badly by those teams, we shouldn't be LOSING to them period. Even draws are disappointing results.

Benitez for example in his 6 years in charge of Liverpool conceded more than 2 goals in a match about 5 or 6 times. Nobody could beat us embarrassingly.

Under Rodgers the number is in mid 20s (I think 27 is the exact number) and he's been here half the time Rafa has.

Liverpool top 4, attainable

Look we're the 9th richest club in the world. We've got the 7th most expensive squad in the world. Why aren't we allowed to expect to finish at the very least top 4? Anybody who can't finish at least 4th with our resources needs to *bleep* off pronto.

Curtinho wrote:I think a lot of fans will tell you top 4, but I think realistically we will hope for top 4 and a trophy (which are both certainly attainable) but 'expectations' should be deep in all cup competitions and finishing top 5. It's not realistic to have a base expectation that we will end in the top 4 given the strength of the other teams competing for top 4 relative to us. I think we're just as strong as Arsenal and United in terms of overall team strength (which is where injuries and managers come into play) so top 4 is not an unrealistic goal, but as an expectation I think it's a bit entitled.

Liverpool's squad is not as good as Man Utd's or Arsenal's.

Guess the sacking is coming closer, inevitably. Resting players midweek for a draw at home against Norwich. Etc.

Hapless_Hans wrote:Guess the sacking is coming closer, inevitably. Resting players midweek for a draw at home against Norwich. Etc.

Almost want them to win just so he doesn't get the boot.

Almost.





Actually.....nah.

They are still ahead of Chelsea though and only 2 points behind Top 4.

True. If anyone had offered them to be ahead of Chelsea after 6 games surely they'd all have taken it.

Hapless_Hans wrote:True. If anyone had offered them to be ahead of Chelsea after 6 games surely they'd all have taken it.

If Chelsea was in the top 4, Then obviously yeah. But right now none of us could be bothered by this fact with the shit going on in the club, Chelsea will overtake us sooner than later as well.

RealGunner wrote:They are still ahead of Chelsea though and only 2 points behind Top 4.

The latter is valid until February and we always fail to build on it, So he needs to go. I would rather remember him fondly rather than negatively purely based on Suarez reasons.

Any truth in the stories that LFC is talking with Carlo Ancelotti???

iftikhar wrote:Any truth in the stories that LFC is talking with Carlo Ancelotti???

Umm.. how would anyone of us know the answer to that?

As of now, Mirror, DailyMail and Guardian are reporting it. I guess it is Mirror who are linking it to 'an exclusive report in Italian publication Calciomercatoweb'. The Italin experts here know about that source probably. From its name, it sounds complete BS to me

Echo says its fake, So it is.

Calcio mercato web is crap

Hapless_Hans wrote:

iftikhar wrote:Any truth in the stories that LFC is talking with Carlo Ancelotti???

Umm.. how would anyone of us know the answer to that?

See how it's done ???

being held by Carlisle at home with a close to full strength team

surely he's getting sacked if something doesnt change in the next 20 mins

heard Klopp was spotted at Dortmund Airport