Re: Olivier Giroud

by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:36 pm

*Giroud fan girl screaming: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

by Jay29 Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:19 pm

The manager in me has been thinking:

Szczesny

Sagna --- Koscielny --- Vermaelen --- Gibbs

Arteta --- Song --- Wilshere

van Persie

Giroud --- Podolski

Or:

Fabiasnki

Jenkinson --- Mertesacker --- Djourou --- Santos

Chamberlain --- Coquelin --- Ramsey

Rosicky

Gervinho --- Walcott

by MJ Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:44 pm

Now THAT'S depth. Our subs are fantastic. Another new face in midfield and maybe a versatile defender and I think we're as prepared as we'll ever be to challenge on all fronts.

Still reeling in the shock of making two huge signings before the window opens.

by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:55 pm

Szczesny

Sagna --- Koscielny --- Vermaelen --- Gibbs

Arteta --- Song --- Wilshere

van Persie

Giroud --- Podolski

I doubt Wenger would do this, but I would give it a try :bow:

Nice though Jay.

by Jay29 Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:02 pm

I know. Wenger likes his wide men, even if they aren't natural wingers. Still, one can always hope we at least try something like that every now and again.

There's always FIFA and Football Manager, too. Razz

by RealGunner Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:08 pm

----------------------------------Szczesny-----------------------------------

--------Sagna------------------Koscielny---------------Vermaelen-----------

-----------------------------------Song-----------------------------------------------

-----------Arteta------------------------------------Diaby-------------------------

-----------------------------------Wilshere-----------------------------------------

----------------Van persie--------------------------Podolski--------------------

-------------------------------------Giroud---------------------------------------------

hmm

by MJ Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:41 pm

But RG, think of Kieran Gibbs, it could kill his career.

by S Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:46 pm

Van Persie on the wing ?

Would it make sense for someone who had the highest goal-scoring season in his career to move him back to his old position ? I dont think so.

And also Van Persie is a forward and not an AM.

EDIT:I think the games against Portugal and Denmark might have given you a good indication hmm

by mani88 Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:55 pm

RealGunner wrote:----------------------------------Szczesny-----------------------------------

--------Sagna------------------Koscielny---------------Vermaelen-----------

-----------------------------------Song-----------------------------------------------

-----------Arteta------------------------------------Diaby-------------------------

-----------------------------------Wilshere-----------------------------------------

----------------Van persie--------------------------Podolski--------------------

-------------------------------------Giroud---------------------------------------------

he is ten days away from being fit. rofl

by RealGunner Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:08 pm

Surag wrote:Van Persie on the wing ?

Would it make sense for someone who had the highest goal-scoring season in his career to move him back to his old position ? I dont think so.

And also Van Persie is a forward and not an AM.

EDIT:I think the games against Portugal and Denmark might have given you a good indication

Everything is just speculation. No one knows what's in wenger's mind lol.

by Jay29 Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:12 pm

It's not really an AM role I'm thinking of. More of SS or deep-lying forward sort of thing, with Podolski and Giroud pulling out wide or deep to open up room for van Persie.

Besides, Arsenal and Netherlands use two different systems. Just because he didn't perform well in a deeper role for his country, doesn't mean he can't play there for his club. For his country, he was playing in front of two defensive midfielders who had no interest in supporting him, and had Sneijder and Robben either side of him and they didn't want to make forwards run; they wanted to come inside and receive the ball. At Arsenal, he'd support from his central midfield and movement ahead of him. So it could work.

And if we really are going to be playing all three of them at the same time, I think a slightly deeper central role would work better for van Persie than shoe-horning on the right hand side.

by Le Samourai Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:39 pm

Sanga-Verm-Kos-Gibbs
-Song-Arteta-Wilshire
---VP---------Podolski
--------Giroud--------

Quite frankly, this move is unfair to Walcott who has paid his dues on the wing long enough.Now I don't even know what his role is on this team? Supersub? he's better than that.

All 4 of your best attacking players want to play CF and only one will get to.

Is it possible that he will leave?

You could see something like this as well

------Song-Wilshire-
Gervinhio-----------Podolski
------------Van Perise
------------Giroud---------.

by Eman Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:55 pm

I'm pretty sure Theo will still start, with Podolski on the left wing and Giroud being the super sub, unless we switch to a 4-4-2 and sacrifice a CM. Actually, the two striker thing might even be more possible if Wenger is thinking of using Theo as a striker from now on (as has been the long-term plan), but we'll have to wait for preseason I guess. I highly, highly doubt that we will sacrifice fullbacks or wingers to accommodate Giroud.

by SamuelJayC Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:50 pm

Delighted with the signing of Giroud. Very different to Chamakh, as last season in France stats for both players show.

Ligue 1:
Giroud: 21 goals, 9 assists
Chamakh: 10 goals, 1 assist

Giroud technically better, more physical, stronger in the air, and has more intelligence. Biggest difference of course, Giroud isn't scared to have a shot lol. Chamakh has to be the most unselfish striker I've ever seen.

Van Persie, Podolski, Giroud, Joel Campbell, Walcott......I like these options. Must get Theo & RVP signed up.

by lenear1030 Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:34 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Surag wrote:Van Persie on the wing ?

Would it make sense for someone who had the highest goal-scoring season in his career to move him back to his old position ? I dont think so.

And also Van Persie is a forward and not an AM.

EDIT:I think the games against Portugal and Denmark might have given you a good indication

Everything is just speculation. No one knows what's in wenger's mind lol.

The options are plentiful. These are the problems that I am glad to have.

by aleumdance Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:44 pm

I think we might go in foir M'Villa now

by Twoism Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:24 am

What number will he wear ? I hope it's not that cursed no 9.

by beatrixasdfghjk. Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:28 am

Twoism wrote:What number will he wear ? I hope it's not that cursed no 9.

MJGunner wrote:Olivier Giroud has reportedly chosen No. 12 as worn by Thierry Henry in his return to Arsenal last year.

by Twoism Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:43 am

beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:
Twoism wrote:What number will he wear ? I hope it's not that cursed no 9.
MJGunner wrote:Olivier Giroud has reportedly chosen No. 12 as worn by Thierry Henry in his return to Arsenal last year.

Cool thanks

by beatrixasdfghjk. Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:15 am

Anyone got a photo of his signature?
I love that smiley face Razz

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by Wilson37 Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:32 am

MJGunner wrote:Now THAT'S depth. Our subs are fantastic. Another new face in midfield and maybe a versatile defender and I think we're as prepared as we'll ever be to challenge on all fronts.

Still reeling in the shock of making two huge signings before the window opens.

exactly.. I am sure most of us didnt believe when Wenger and Gazidis said that we will be active this summer.. Seems we learnt the lesson from last summer.. And i think we wont sell RVP even if he doesnt sign a new contract unless it is massive.. So we can start looking forward to next season...

by Sri Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:26 am

Wilson37 wrote:
MJGunner wrote:Now THAT'S depth. Our subs are fantastic. Another new face in midfield and maybe a versatile defender and I think we're as prepared as we'll ever be to challenge on all fronts.

Still reeling in the shock of making two huge signings before the window opens.
exactly.. I am sure most of us didnt believe when Wenger and Gazidis said that we will be active this summer.. Seems we learnt the lesson from last summer.. And i think we wont sell RVP even if he doesnt sign a new contract unless it is massive.. So we can start looking forward to next season...

Umm.. I have said this before and I will say it again - we have made a good start to the summer. But the job is still far from done. We have addressed the situation which would arise in case RvP and/or Theo leave. But we have not addressed the issues which were prevalent earlier -> defense and chance creation.

Arteta and the rejuvenated Rosicky and the experienced Benayoun helped last season. But we haven't effectively filled the void we experienced due to Cesc/Ca$ri departures and Jack injury. Gervinho would have to step up much more to fill the void Arshavin has left (despite all his laziness and stuff, the man had a knack for magic moments - remember Barcelona or Liverpool?). We still need to address this issue. Piling pressure/responsibility on the young Ramsey, the younger Oxlade, the injury-return Jack, the 10-days-away Diaby or the ageing duo of Rosicky-Arteta is not going to solve this.

And then ofcourse is the question of how well our midfield protects our defense and covers for the full backs when they attack. Song isn't doing that job and Coquelin is too young/inexperienced to be the solution, while it would be unfair to put this on the shoulders of Frimpong who is also making his way back from multiple injuries.

=> The midfield has to be worked out. Not just in terms of personnel, but also tactics.

by The Sanchez Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 am

He has signed. Sorry to ask and I will probably cope some abuse but exactly why did you sign him when you probably need more depth in defense? Also, I think you may need someone in midfield especially at AM, with Rosicky getting old and Ramsey with not enough experience... Thoughts?

by TalkingReckless Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:39 am

paxtonpale wrote:He has signed. Sorry to ask and I will probably cope some abuse but exactly why did you sign him when you probably need more depth in defense? Also, I think you may need someone in midfield especially at AM, with Rosicky getting old and Ramsey with not enough experience... Thoughts?

RVP is our only good Striker atm (not counting Podolski) and we need a backup if RVP leaves or stays...So Podolski and Giroud are his replacement/support

Our defense is good enough, we probably only need a a versatile youngster who can play all throughout the backline, We have Verm, Kos, Per at CB...

We may need a AM but it all depends on RVP future and if Wenger decides to change formations, and a bit on how Wilshere will be when he comes back from injury

by The Sanchez Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:17 am

Doesn't Wilshere play at DM?

by Kick Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:43 am

paxtonpale wrote:Doesn't Wilshere play at DM?

Wilshere is a CM, versatile kid, Probably best at AM though.

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