Re: Portugal greatest?

by Lord Awesome Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:52 pm

Woah, man. Not everyone takes others opinions to a bullet to their body.

Some just take it with a grain of salt.

by izzy Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:52 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.

Well there are many factors people take into place. The main one being that he has don nothing significant for Portugal so far. I thought he performed rathr well at Euro 2004 and WC 2006.

The General consensu is that he has to play a pivitol role and win the world cup for Portugal, or at least be more consistant.

by JuvenelCuore Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:Woah, man. Not everyone takes others opinions to a bullet to their body.

Some just take it with a grain of salt.

I was banned on the other forum for bringing up events and things associated with the Islam religion, but people here can bring up Mussolini and the fascist movement of Italy and everyone can suddenly move on. I'm offended just like other users on the other forum were and I want compensation like they were given.

by Lord Awesome Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:57 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.

Well there are many factors people take into place. The main one being that he has don nothing significant for Portugal so far. I thought he performed rathr well at Euro 2004 and WC 2006.

The General consensu is that he has to play a pivitol role and win the world cup for Portugal, or at least be more consistant.

To show up, you mean. Yes, I agree, he wasn't too bright at the WC but I think the reason behind that was more tied to Quieroz's tactics.

Club level though, I think Ronaldo surpasses what Figo's done as I don't think Figo has done enough at NT level either.

by Jack Daniels Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:59 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:That's a threat my friend.

Well maybe i should add a freaking "smiley" then? Shocked

by Guest Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:59 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:That's a threat my friend.
Well maybe i should add a freaking "smiley" then?

by LeSwagg James Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:03 pm

Rui Costa on the same level as Cristiano? LOL.. Now I've heard it all

by FilipeFerreira Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:03 pm

Euseibo
Figo
Ronaldo
Rui Costa
Deco
Fernano Couto.

by izzy Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:09 pm

FilipeFerreira wrote:Euseibo
Figo
Ronaldo
Rui Costa
Deco
Fernano Couto.

Filipe, in your eyes, what oes Ronaldo need to do to become better than Figo?

by JuvenelCuore Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:12 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:That's a threat my friend.
Well maybe i should add a freaking "smiley" then?

Yeah, I forgot. I am talking face to face to you so I can imply and infer based on your tone.

by Albiceleste Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:41 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.

One champions league doesn't make you the greatest from your country. Leading your team to a world cup victory does though

by izzy Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:44 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.
One champions league doesn't make you the greatest from your country. Leading your team to a world cup victory does though

No player from Portugal has done that. EVER.

by JuvenelCuore Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:45 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.
One champions league doesn't make you the greatest from your country. Leading your team to a world cup victory does though

No player from Portugal has done that. EVER.

Hahahahaha and never will. Very Happy

by izzy Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:50 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:

Hahahahaha and never will.

You never know. Next World Cup is in 3 years. Plenty of time for Portugal to get a decent Striker and Goalkeeper.
I see them as a real threat.

by Albiceleste Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:51 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.
One champions league doesn't make you the greatest from your country. Leading your team to a world cup victory does though

No player from Portugal has done that. EVER.

Well, third place victory of course

by JuvenelCuore Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:52 pm

izzy26 wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:

Hahahahaha and never will.

You never know. Next World Cup is in 3 years. Plenty of time for Portugal to get a decent Striker and Goalkeeper.
I see them as a real threat.

A real threat to what ? Fifth place ?

by izzy Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:08 am

Lionel Messi wrote:
Well, third place victory of course

Third place ain't no victory, but if you think so:

With Ronaldo:
Portugal-Euro 2004 runners-up- 4th place at 2006 World Cup.

by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:11 am

izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Well, third place victory of course

Third place ain't no victory, but if you think so:

With Ronaldo:
Portugal-Euro 2004 runners-up- 4th place at 2006 World Cup.

= Choked

by Lord Spencer Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:20 am

izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Well, third place victory of course

Third place ain't no victory, but if you think so:

With Ronaldo:
Portugal-Euro 2004 runners-up- 4th place at 2006 World Cup.

While that may be true, a third place finish in the debut of the country is really a great result, not to mention the style in which that team reached 3rd place, as well as the controversy surrounding their exit.

Also, as I said before, CR still have not finished his career and hence cannot be included in this discussion.

The Black Panther was a monster of a player by the way.

*I think Stunt means the 1966 WC*

by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:26 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:Back to topic? How's Ronaldo not the best Portugese ever.
One champions league doesn't make you the greatest from your country. Leading your team to a world cup victory does though

No player from Portugal has done that. EVER.

Hahahahaha and never will.

seriously dude you sicken me
spain had never won the wc and they won it didnt they?
netherlands has never won the wc but they are capable
who knows i believe an african team will win one day

and the argument of leading a country to a wc is flawed
i mean arent milla, a.pele, drogba,eto, park arent they in contention to be their countries greatest

by FilipeFerreira Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:28 pm

sciacca wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Well, third place victory of course

Third place ain't no victory, but if you think so:

With Ronaldo:
Portugal-Euro 2004 runners-up- 4th place at 2006 World Cup.

= Choked

Making it to the finals and semi finals is not choking.

Choking is having a great squad and not even making it out of the group stages.

by Calebvision Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:16 pm

It's my opinion that Ronaldo is clearly better than Figo, even if Figo is an all time great!

Ronaldo is part of the "cream of the cream".

Eusebio was too long ago for me to compare, even if I actually did see him play a few games as a small child. I simply don't remember the details other than that he was prolific goal scorer, in the era!

by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:23 pm

FilipeFerreira wrote:
sciacca wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Well, third place victory of course

Third place ain't no victory, but if you think so:

With Ronaldo:
Portugal-Euro 2004 runners-up- 4th place at 2006 World Cup.

= Choked

Making it to the finals and semi finals is not choking.

Choking is having a great squad and not even making it out of the group stages.

Nope, choke means always going far, but never winning it. Take Germany for example, always in the Semi's or Finals, but lose as of late. Cheslea is another prime example. Choke.

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