Re: This is the best German NT ever

by The Messiah Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:44 pm

for me

-----------------Neuer----------------
Howedes--Boateng--Hummels---Lahm

Loew already said Lahm wouldn't be moved

by Le Samourai Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:47 pm

Break it down whichever way you want, Ramos didn't endure 90 minutes of rape from Kazim-Kazim Richards against a Turkish team that was playing their reserve keeper in central defense.

Spoiler:

by rwo power Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:48 pm

Idrisozet wrote:for me

-----------------Neuer----------------
Howedes--Boateng--Hummels---Lahm

Loew already said Lahm wouldn't be moved

On the other hand, playing

-------------- Neuer ---------------
Höwedes - Boateng - Badstuber - Lahm

would give Germany a defensive line that is well used to play together, moreover, Neuer & Höwedes know each other well from Neuer's Schalke days, too.

by guest7 Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:50 pm

Badstuber is underrated, he looks good when I see him.

rwo is right, there is a reason why Löw prefers him over Hummels (and it's becouse he is better)

by The Messiah Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:52 pm

Se7en wrote:Badstuber is underrated, he looks good when I see him.

rwo is right, there is a reason why Löw prefers him over Hummels (and it's becouse he is better)

I want a link or a source that says Loew prefers Badstuber to Hummels.

by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:53 pm

I think the Bayern-3 in defence are a done deal by now, simply because they know each other. The only quesiton is about the missing FB IMHO, maybe Höwedes, maybe Schmelzer, maybe Hummels at CB and Boateng at RB, who knows.

Ganso wrote:khedira=busquets,scweinteiger=xabi,kroos=xavi,ozil=iniesta,gotze=silva

Schweinsteiger > Xabi
Khedira < Xavi
Kroos > Biscuits
Özil = Iniesta
Götze > Silva

See? Just jumble them around a bit and it looks good again Razz

by rwo power Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:55 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Se7en wrote:Badstuber is underrated, he looks good when I see him.

rwo is right, there is a reason why Löw prefers him over Hummels (and it's becouse he is better)

I want a link or a source that says Loew prefers Badstuber to Hummels.

Doesn't the fact that Badstuber always plays when not injured or suspended show Löw's preference?

by The Messiah Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:56 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:I think the Bayern-3 in defence are a done deal by now, simply because they know each other. The only quesiton is about the missing FB IMHO, maybe Höwedes, maybe Schmelzer, maybe Hummels at CB and Boateng at RB, who knows.

Ganso wrote:khedira=busquets,scweinteiger=xabi,kroos=xavi,ozil=iniesta,gotze=silva

Schweinsteiger > Xabi
Khedira < Xavi
Kroos > Biscuits
Özil = Iniesta
Götze > Silva

See? Just jumble them around a bit and it looks good again

Kroos>>>>>Xavi and

Khedira >>>>>Biscuit.

by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:58 pm

Yeah I wouldn't try and argue your point in those two cases, mate. :X

by The Messiah Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:59 pm

rwo power wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Se7en wrote:Badstuber is underrated, he looks good when I see him.

rwo is right, there is a reason why Löw prefers him over Hummels (and it's becouse he is better)

I want a link or a source that says Loew prefers Badstuber to Hummels.
Doesn't the fact that Badstuber always plays when not injured or suspended show Löw's preference?

No, Germany already won their qualifiers before Badstuber was playing week in week out.

for sure Loew wants to play him because of 2 things.

1: He's naturally left footed.

2: He's good with the ball.

But I dont think Loew is going to start him as Hummels and Boateng have much more better qualities in order aspect of defending, like strength, Pace, Tackling, scoring, set piece, etc

by rwo power Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:11 pm

Actually Badstuber started in most Euro qualification matches, and in the ones where he was missing, he was out injured with a groin inflammation.

You can check the matches he played in here: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/holger-badstuber/leistungsdaten/spieler_54659_2010.html

by Le Samourai Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:13 pm

Badstuber-Hummels

Boateng at either fullback spot.

by BAYERN_MUNICH Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:20 pm

Badstuber is and Lahm are the only fix defenders for Löw...i think the other CB will be a Hummels/Boateng and RB Höwedes/Boateng

by Valkyrja Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:41 pm

-----------------------Neuer--------------------
--Lahm---Badstuber--Howedes--Schmelzer--
----------Schwensteiger--Khedira---------------
--Muller--------------Ozil------------------Goetze--
--------------------Gomez-------------------------

Lahm is RB.

by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:44 pm

Löw did say that he wants Lahm to stay at LB, though, also Badstuber and Höwedes switching places would make sense in your formation, since Badstuber is a left-foot.

Also Löw will probably start Podolski and Klose.

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