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Post by Unique Mon May 16, 2016 3:57 pm

@Jay29 wrote:
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@Jay29 wrote:If you've watched England at all throughout qualifying you'd know Wilshere was one of their best performers. He's not going because of some hokey potential, but because in an England shirt he always performs.
and if you have watched England at all you would know that how England perform in a easy qualifying group has nothing to do with how they play in the eoros/world cup propper

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.

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Post by RealGunner Mon May 16, 2016 4:02 pm

@Art Morte wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Why would we drop Wilshere? Doesn't matter if he has 1 app or 2. He is still our best midfielder.

Who would go instead? Delph or Noble? Laughing



What makes Wilshere so great exactly? He's always been about potential that he's never reached. Offensively his best PL season is 3 goals and 4 assists. To put that in perspective, Henderson has bettered that in four PL seasons, Noble five times and Milner seven times.


Best technical midfielder we have by a mile. Can actually control the ball and not chase his first touch across france unlike 90% in the squad. Most creative midfielder we have. Best dribbler we have in midfield. Can actually pass the ball forward instead of backwards or sideways.

Been our best midfielder in qualifiers.

No reason not to take him.

Some of you guys would rather have a midfield of Drinkwater-Dier-Noble just because they have had a great season in the PL. Same PL where Leicester are champions, reigning champions Chelsea are in midtable and West ham are finishing 3 points below the top 4.

No wonder we do shit in tournaments. 'hard working' 'great inform players from shit clubs' being preferred over players who actually belong at the Euros amongst the elite
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Post by RealGunner Mon May 16, 2016 4:02 pm

@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:If you've watched England at all throughout qualifying you'd know Wilshere was one of their best performers. He's not going because of some hokey potential, but because in an England shirt he always performs.
and if you have watched England at all you would know that how England perform in a easy qualifying group has nothing to do with how they play in the eoros/world cup propper

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.


So what kind of players will do well then?
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Post by Unique Mon May 16, 2016 4:04 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Why would we drop Wilshere? Doesn't matter if he has 1 app or 2. He is still our best midfielder.

Who would go instead? Delph or Noble? Laughing



What makes Wilshere so great exactly? He's always been about potential that he's never reached. Offensively his best PL season is 3 goals and 4 assists. To put that in perspective, Henderson has bettered that in four PL seasons, Noble five times and Milner seven times.


Best technical midfielder we have by a mile. Can actually control the ball and not chase his first touch across france unlike 90% in the squad. Most creative midfielder we have. Best dribbler we have in midfield. Can actually pass the ball forward instead of backwards or sideways.

Been our best midfielder in qualifiers.

No reason not to take him.

Some of you guys would rather have a midfield of Drinkwater-Dier-Noble just because they have had a great season in the PL. Same PL where Leicester are champions, reigning champions Chelsea are in midtable and West ham are finishing 3 points below the top 4.

No wonder we do shit in tournaments. 'hard working' 'great inform players from shit clubs' being preferred over players who actually belong at the Euros amongst the elite
and there is that club bias I was talking about Laughing
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Post by Unique Mon May 16, 2016 4:05 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.


So what kind of players will do well then?
I doubt any of them will do well tbh. but imo we should play fit players that are on the back of a good season where possible. no point picking a player because he had a good game 2 years ago.
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 11:06 am

England XI vs. Turkey: Hart, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Rose, Dier, Wilshere, Alli, Sterling, Vardy, Kane.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 22, 2016 11:07 am

I like that midfield.
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 11:09 am

Yea same. Decent attack too.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 22, 2016 11:12 am

Shame about the back 4 Laughing

Although I'm unsure on the forwards, we'll see how it goes.
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:12 pm

Apparently it's 4-3-3 and not 4-3-1-2.

That'd be my first choice midfield though.

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:13 pm

Rooney will probably take Wilshere's place.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 22, 2016 12:15 pm

Really think he's going to copy Van Gaal with the whole Roonay in mf thing lol? I hope not.
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:15 pm

A way to play Kane and rooney in the same team? Roy must be glad LVG is playing rooney in midfield lol



how come Emirates never host england matches?
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:16 pm

Good to see the Emptihad is living up to its name.

And we should be 1-0 up already lol.

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:17 pm

Kane what a finish

1-0!!
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:18 pm

1-0. Kane. Alli assist. Looked offside.

The lulz when Rooney is playing as the 9 against Russia.

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:18 pm

Looked miles offside
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:20 pm

Should be 1-1.

This England team will keep zero clean sheets.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 22, 2016 12:20 pm

@RealGunner wrote:A way to play Kane and rooney in the same team? Roy must be glad LVG is playing rooney in midfield lol



how come Emirates never host england matches?


I'd rather he not play at all tbh.
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Post by rincon Sun May 22, 2016 12:26 pm

England looks good but that was waaaaay offside
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:28 pm

HAKAN pls come at Arsenal


1-1
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:29 pm

1-1. Calhanoglu.

Ozyakup just split our whole defence open. Rose' positioning rofl

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:29 pm

Rose Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 22, 2016 12:31 pm

We are never going to keep a clean sheet Laughing

Probably will be a fun watch for the neutrals.
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Post by Jay29 Sun May 22, 2016 12:33 pm

We could do with calming things down and keeping the ball a bit more. Wilshere and Alli barely seeing it in midfield.

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Post by RealGunner Sun May 22, 2016 12:35 pm

Dier could be a fraud


watch this space

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