Santi Cazorla - Europe's Best All-Round Midfielder

And as far as Wenger's principles go, we're talking about a man who replayed an entire game when a slightly naive Kanu scored a controversial winning goal against Sheffield United

I thought Carzola had a good game. He initiated most of of Arsenal's attacks and was very lively in the midfield. It was definitely not underwhelming.

kiranr wrote:
I thought Carzola had a good game. He initiated most of of Arsenal's attacks and was very lively in the midfield. It was definitely not underwhelming.

HE did have a good game but a lot of people see the dive and could care less what he did all game and then there are those who didn't even watch but comment anyways.

BTW Arsenal was in a bad patch of form and scoring first in that game meant a lot as I can't sit here and say that if Brom had scored first then Arsenal would have won as they were not that much better on the day. So although the dive was a dive no question it really helped the team and
Arsenal's team tremendously.

It's funny though as I haven't heard one person in here blame the ref or OX when he totally went through the back of the Brom player and put him on the ground to get the ball and was allowed to stroll into the box before he got fouled.

I mean both calls were obvious and blatant.

And again stop with this whole Wenger is some anti-diving coach he has had a lot of divers on his teams over the years.

Fab, Nasri, RVP even stated he "exaggerated falls" to get calls, Eduardo, Eboue been booked for dives, Bendtner dives, Chamakh, Adebayor (quite hilarious clip on youtube against united) etc etc

Here are some Wenger gems for the delusional people who think he's hard on divers in his team.

“I think it is difficult with diving,” he responded, when asked about the Eboue dive. “Sometimes players dive to escape being hit. It’s not always necessarily diving because you want to dive. Sometimes it’s a way of getting out of the way."

Things were not helped when a month later Robin van Persie confessed his guilt to "exaggerated falls" to show a referee when he had been fouled. After the Eduardo incident Emmanuel Eboué was booked for diving against Manchester United, while Nicklas Bendtner received a yellow for falling over against Liverpool.

"Sometimes when a striker is fouled he wants to make sure the referee sees that, which is what Robin was doing. He wanted to show there is a difference between what people call diving and being fouled," Wenger said.

In effect, Wenger was confirming what Henry of Wolves and a host of others in the English game already believe, that Arsenal players "go down like a sack of spuds."

I don't think arsenal players dive much. You might find isolated incidents but there is no trend where our players dive systematically, as is the case with barcelona, where it seems they train on it. There's no doubt about it, cazorla has been awful in some games for us, but he played well yesterday

Yeah yeah yeah ... Enough about Cazorla. Wilshere though

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:I don't think arsenal players dive much. You might find isolated incidents but there is no trend where our players dive systematically, as is the case with barcelona, where it seems they train on it. There's no doubt about it, cazorla has been awful in some games for us, but he played well yesterday

"Barca train on diving"...........really?


I sooooo wish we get Arsenal in the next CL knockout phase, just so we can showcase how we have perfected the art of diving.

Lex wrote:Barca fans are so used to the idea of their team diving, crying and vagi'ing their way to victory, that, the mere idea that a manager has a word with a player who dives in a game is considered as divine an act as walking on water or raising the dead

More used to Arsenal fans riding their high horses tbh. No one seemed to talk about the handball by merter, if the ones getting the decisions today weren't Arsenal but United or Barca we will see your whines all over

Ok guys ,he did it & he must be ashamed of course ..coz WE ARE ARSENAL -We don't accept these BAD Behaviours @our Club ,that's the point. What a classy FANS n CLUB really . I'm so PROUD of that sincerely

ToEy wrote:if the ones getting the decisions today weren't Arsenal but United or Barca we will see your whines all over

Both of those teams have won hordes of trophies based on controversial decisions, so i fail to see your point

Lex wrote:

ToEy wrote:if the ones getting the decisions today weren't Arsenal but United or Barca we will see your whines all over

Both of those teams have won hordes of trophies based on controversial decisions, so i fail to see your point

If it weren't for Arsenal being robbed by refs all the time, I'm sure they wouldn't be trophy-less in.......what is it now?.....eehmm... 7 years???

Man U have won so much because of refs. As for barca, I also doubt having a 73 goal/ year machine and and a WC midfield has anything to do with their recent success.

Arsenal have been the best team in recent times and they never get controversial decisions go in their favour!

Oh....and Arsenal players dont dive and their manager is a class act, he never complains about stuff.

gondov wrote:Man U have won so much because of refs. As for barca, I also doubt having a 73 dive/ year machine and and a WC midfield has anything to do with their recent success

I actually agree with you on that point, it has helped Barcelona in recent years

What a penalty technique

BarrileteCosmico wrote:What a penalty technique

Time to Rank La Liga to EPL transfers this season:

1. Michu
2. Arouna KONEEEEEE
3. De Guzman
4. Cazorla
5. Pablo
6. Ivan Ramis























99. Sahin
100. Granero

Dat list

Dominated by Swanselona Laudrup's eye for a bargain

Also wtf is KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII on that list ffs?

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Dat list

Dominated by Swanselona Laudrup's eye for a bargain

Also wtf is KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII on that list ffs?

The list is for La Liga to EPL only, Kiiiiii came from the Mighty Celtic - Pride of Scotland

^^^transfers from Spain to England

After all the Dnmac hype he gets raped by Bradford's midfield.

He didn't get 'raped' by any stretch.. he actually played well as a creator, as did Rosicky. He was one of our very few bright spots today. It's not his fault he's surrounded by gutless and lackluster attackers who can't score to save their lives.

Painful game to watch

Be/\/ceCALI wrote:He didn't get 'raped' by any stretch.. he actually played well as a creator, as did Rosicky. He was one of our very few bright spots today. It's not his fault he's surrounded by gutless and lackluster attackers who can't score to save their lives.

Painful game to watch

He was pretty useless most of the game, until Rozza & Ox came in and Bradford started defending deeper. Even then Jack was making more chances then him while playing deeper.

Wilshere is better than him.

RealGunner wrote:Wilshere is better than him.

No s**t.

i bet dnmac is pissed off at this

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:i bet dnmac is pissed off at this

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