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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:05 am

http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/nse-h_qlu0uijpeibyirfq/Show/Team-Focus-Villarreal-Borja-Leading-the-Revival


BorjitooOoOOo getting recognition finally :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:59 am

84% passing, thats worse than Cesc and Borja plays deeper...whats with that?

All the article really says is he is shooting more and therefore scoring more then other seasons, which might be down to the players in attack being crap.



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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:39 am

The Franchise wrote:84% passing, thats worse than Cesc and Borja plays deeper...whats with that?

All the article really says is he is shooting more and therefore scoring more then other seasons, which might be down to the players in attack being crap.



Lot of reasons for that.

one he tries lot of impossible balls,infact he is the only play maker they have ,their best creator.Cani has been sub par this season,Bruno is after all his abilities not a play maker.

He is 4th best in key passes after Xavi,ozil,iniesta..explains his level of chance creation.He has a free role there,he often plays as a AM and CM game controller.

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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:45 am

Dont mind the 84% then, they are probably guilty of not being penetrative enough with their passing so someone who forces the issue probably isnt a bad thing.

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Post by Guest Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:05 am

Adit wrote:
The Franchise wrote:84% passing, thats worse than Cesc and Borja plays deeper...whats with that?

All the article really says is he is shooting more and therefore scoring more then other seasons, which might be down to the players in attack being crap.



Lot of reasons for that.

one he tries lot of impossible balls,infact he is the only play maker they have ,their best creator.Cani has been sub par this season,Bruno is after all his abilities not a play maker.

He is 4th best in key passes after Xavi,ozil,iniesta..explains his level of chance creation.He has a free role there,he often plays as a AM and CM game controller.


No he's not lmao

And I still don't rate him

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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:09 am

You are right

He has 4 times more key passes than iniesta (12) and as much as key passes as xavi (46),borja (45)..and twice as much as fabregas (22) and only 7 less than Leo Messi (53).Best is Ozil with 56.

so

1,Ozil
2,Messi
3,Xavi
4,Borja

still fourth

note that both xavi and Borja plays alot deeper.Borja plays for a much inferior team,how is this not a impressive statistics?

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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:16 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Whoever is negging me is an absolute twat, b*tch you are right to be hiding
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:21 am

Adit wrote:You are right

He has 4 times more key passes than iniesta (12) and as much as key passes as xavi (46),borja (45)..and twice as much as fabregas (22) and only 7 less than Leo Messi (53).Best is Ozil with 56.

so

1,Ozil
2,Messi
3,Xavi
4,Borja

still fourth

note that both xavi and Borja plays alot deeper.Borja plays for a much inferior team,how is this not a impressive statistics?


He's 11th in LigaBBVA

and 57th in Europe's top 5 leagues.

Try looking at a relevant statistic like key passes per game, because players like Xavi, Iniesta, Ozil and co have all played much less than Valero.

Villarreal are struggling to stay above the relegation zone.

So his performance has been the best of a shit lot. Not hard to look good when surrounded by garbage.

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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:37 am

Crimson wrote:
Adit wrote:You are right

He has 4 times more key passes than iniesta (12) and as much as key passes as xavi (46),borja (45)..and twice as much as fabregas (22) and only 7 less than Leo Messi (53).Best is Ozil with 56.

so

1,Ozil
2,Messi
3,Xavi
4,Borja

still fourth

note that both xavi and Borja plays alot deeper.Borja plays for a much inferior team,how is this not a impressive statistics?


He's 11th in LigaBBVA

and 57th in Europe's top 5 leagues.

Try looking at a relevant statistic like key passes per game, because players like Xavi, Iniesta, Ozil and co have all played much less than Valero.

Villarreal are struggling to stay above the relegation zone.

So his performance has been the best of a shit lot. Not hard to look good when surrounded by garbage.
What logic is that?

If anything it is way harder to play with a struggling team than play with bunch of world class players.

Messi struggling with NT,Etoo underperforming for cameroon,Nocerino having a better career at AC milan,Ozils better statistics at Real madrid...etc all suggests that way.

Again,he has more Key passes than the likes of Xabi Alonso,so thats damn fine for me.

I took total Kep passes per game,thats why he is 4th.
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Post by Adit Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:41 am

You dont rate him?

He was selected as thrid best Media punta by REFFF after Iniesta and ozil any way.So FA rates him,who cares about you.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Who were the other candidates?
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Post by RealGunner Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:09 pm

the likes of xabi prieto Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:53 pm

Will join Malaga if they go in CL.

Atletico has tried to sign him for a while as well, he has options.
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Post by Lord Hades Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:57 pm

RealGunner wrote:the likes of xabi prieto Laughing

umm prieto is quite a good player , i rate him as the second best sociedad player ..
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:58 pm

Tello - Toulalan - Borja - Cazorla
--------------Isco
-------------Rondon
hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:59 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Will join Malaga if they go in CL.

Atletico has tried to sign him for a while as well, he has options.

Malaga are going to go far with the playmaker of a team that are struggling to stay up Laughing and a winger who has one move...... run and shoot Laughing

TBF tho iam not suprised Atleti want him thier midfield is so shite that i could play for them Laughing
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Post by Lord Hades Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:03 pm

i hope you were talking about joaquin and not cazorla lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:07 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Will join Malaga if they go in CL.

Atletico has tried to sign him for a while as well, he has options.

Malaga are going to go far with the playmaker of a team that are struggling to stay up Laughing and a winger who has one move...... run and shoot Laughing

TBF tho iam not suprised Atleti want him thier midfield is so shite that i could play for them Laughing

-_-

Borja-Cazorla association is the most fluid thing in football after Xavi-Iniesta Very Happy. They were fantastic last year, Borja doing the midfield general, and Cazorla the transition forward. they can replicate that for Malaga. Although i think they need another forward, not that scrub Tello, a SS like Rossi.

Toulalan-Borja
Cazorla---Isco
--XXX--Rondon

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:11 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:TBF tho iam not suprised Atleti want him thier midfield is so shite that i could play for them Laughing

their midfield is extremely good mole, i mean Adrian-Salvio-Juanfran are the reason why Pathetico climb themselves up the table to within touching distance of CL

the only one id replace in that team is Arda Turan that guy is crap as hell, can see why Atleti want Bojan, they probably want him to replace Arda in the starting line up
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:12 pm

Albiceleste wrote:Tello - Toulalan - Borja - Cazorla
--------------Isco
-------------Rondon
hmm
hmm
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:TBF tho iam not suprised Atleti want him thier midfield is so shite that i could play for them Laughing

their midfield is extremely good mole, i mean Adrian-Salvio-Juanfran are the reason why Pathetico climb themselves up the table to within touching distance of CL

the only one id replace in that team is Arda Turan that guy is crap as hell, can see why Atleti want Bojan, they probably want him to replace Arda in the starting line up

Borja and Arda have very different roles tho. I think Atletico is looking for a mature midfield general, there arent many in Spain, and out of the big 2, Borja might be the best playmaker.


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Post by Albiceleste Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:Tello - Toulalan - Borja - Cazorla
--------------Isco
-------------Rondon
hmm
hmm
According to Cadena Ser if Malaga qualify for CL they will try to sign Tello, possibly on loan. Apparently his buyout clause is 10m. Personally I hope Shiekh Abdullah f*cks right off...

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:18 pm

They should try to get Afellay
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:25 pm

Will need much better fullbacks Very Happy
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:37 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Borja and Arda have very different roles tho. I think Atletico is looking for a mature midfield general, there arent many in Spain, and out of the big 2, Borja might be the best playmaker.

Arda is pretty much a CM, Borja plays something similar no??

Arda does nothing in a game bar lose the ball, Borja would seriously upgrade that team to the next level
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