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Re: the best defense in Europe
Phritz wrote:Why is this a right-back thread actually?
because this involves comparisons ?
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Well, I might move it back to GenSec. Dunno who of the others moved it here, but I wasn't agreeing either.
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Lord Hades wrote:Phritz wrote:Why is this a right-back thread actually?
because this involves comparisons ?
Lord Hades wrote:Phritz wrote:Why is this a right-back thread actually?
because this involves comparisons ?
Yeah, but I thought the origin of the RB section was to keep non-constructive x player is better than x player threads from polluting general discussion.
This is a thread that's more about commenting and discussing statistics than RONALDO > MESSI BECAUSE CHOKE etc. with RWO doing an admiral job of keeping it up to date. It is not a thread which is a cycle of endless non-constructive fanboy arguments, which is what imo the RB section is for - fanbois arguing about what they believe is better.
I also kinda feel that it disrespects her efforts in maintaining this thread as well >.> and it also inspired a Clark Whitney editorial <.<
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Phritz wrote:Lord Hades wrote:Phritz wrote:Why is this a right-back thread actually?
because this involves comparisons ?Lord Hades wrote:Phritz wrote:Why is this a right-back thread actually?
because this involves comparisons ?
Yeah, but I thought the origin of the RB section was to keep non-constructive x player is better than x player threads from polluting general discussion.
This is a thread that's more about commenting and discussing statistics than RONALDO > MESSI BECAUSE CHOKE etc. with RWO doing an admiral job of keeping it up to date. It is not a thread which is a cycle of endless non-constructive fanboy arguments, which is what imo the RB section is for - fanbois arguing about what they believe is better.
I also kinda feel that it disrespects her efforts in maintaining this thread as well >.> and it also inspired a Clark Whitney editorial <.<
Threads like this always have potential of Players comparison, that's what makes them good thread.
but it's definitely not a right-back section thread, because some poster were always going to compare but that's not the point of the thread..
I also feel my thread..."How highly do you rate Bayern" is not a right back section thread.
I hate it when my threads are moved around
Re: the best defense in Europe
Best defenses in the top 5 European leagues atm:
1.
18 - Juventus Turin (35 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
21 - Bayern München (33 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (33 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (33 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
26 - Barcelona (35 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (36 matches) - Joe Hart
28 - AC Milan (35 matches) - Christian Abbiati
30 - Real Madrid (35 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Montpellier HSC (34 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
31 - Toulouse FC (34 matches) - Ali Ahamada
I guess the next update will be tomorrow as Serie A and La Liga are due to play today/tomorrow again.
1.
18 - Juventus Turin (35 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
21 - Bayern München (33 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (33 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (33 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
26 - Barcelona (35 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (36 matches) - Joe Hart
28 - AC Milan (35 matches) - Christian Abbiati
30 - Real Madrid (35 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Montpellier HSC (34 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
31 - Toulouse FC (34 matches) - Ali Ahamada
I guess the next update will be tomorrow as Serie A and La Liga are due to play today/tomorrow again.
Last edited by rwo power on Wed May 02, 2012 4:10 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Christian Abbiati in place of Marco Amelia, rwo, the latter is firmly second choice.
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Noted. Thx!
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Best defenses in the top 5 European leagues atm:
1.
19 - Juventus Turin (36 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
21 - Bayern München (33 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (33 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (33 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
27 - Barcelona (36 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (36 matches) - Joe Hart
28 - AC Milan (36 matches) - Christian Abbiati
30 - Real Madrid (36 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Montpellier HSC (34 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
31 - Toulouse FC (34 matches) - Ali Ahamada
Okay, today Gigi made a very silly mistake, but I love him anyway
1.
19 - Juventus Turin (36 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
21 - Bayern München (33 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (33 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (33 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
27 - Barcelona (36 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (36 matches) - Joe Hart
28 - AC Milan (36 matches) - Christian Abbiati
30 - Real Madrid (36 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Montpellier HSC (34 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
31 - Toulouse FC (34 matches) - Ali Ahamada
Okay, today Gigi made a very silly mistake, but I love him anyway
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Re: the best defense in Europe
Okay, I actually wanted to do that only after the season, but I felt like doing it now already. Here you have the goal/matches quotients for the clubs with the top defenses in the top 5 European leagues.
Goals conceded (absolute):
1.
19 - Juventus Turin (37 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
22 - Bayern München (34 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (34 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (34 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
27 - Barcelona (37 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (37 matches) - Joe Hart
31 - Real Madrid (37 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Toulouse FC (35 matches) - Ali Ahamada
32 - AC Milan (37 matches) - Christian Abbiati
33 - Manchester United (37 matches) - David de Géa
33 - Montpellier HSC (35 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
Quotient goals/games (domestic):
0.51 (19/37*) Juventus Turin (Gigi Buffon)
0.65 (22/34) Bayern München (Manuel Neuer)
0.71 (24/34) Borussia M'gladbach (Marc-André ter Stegen)
0.73 (27/37*) Barcelona (Víctor Valdés)
0.73 (27/37*) Manchester City (Joe Hart)
0.74 (25/34) Borussia Dortmund (Roman Weidenfeller)
0.84 (31/37*) Real Madrid (Iker Casillas)
0.86 (32/37*) AC Milan (Christian Abbiati)
0.89 (33/37*) Manchester United (David de Géa)
0.89 (31/35*) Toulouse FC (Ali Ahamada)
0.94 (33/35*) Montpellier HSC (Geoffrey Jourdren)
Quotient goals/games (domestic, cups and international)
0.56 [23/41] (19/37*, Coppa4/4*) Juventus Turin
0.65 [33/51] (22/34, Pokal1/5*, CL10/12*) Bayern München
0.67 [26/39] (24/34, Pokal2/5) Borussia M'gladbach
0.74 [42/57] (27/37*, CDR5/8*, CL10/12) Barcelona
0.82 [37/45] (25/34, Pokal0/5*, CL12/6) Borussia Dortmund
0.85 [47/55] (31/37*, CDR7/6, CL9/12) Real Madrid
0.86 [44/51] (27/37*, FACup3/1, LCup5/5, CL6/6, EL3/2) Manchester City
0.90 [37/41] (33/35*, CdL3/2, CdF1/4) Montpellier HSC
0.92 [34/37] (31/35*, CdL2/1, CdF1/1) Toulouse FC
1.02 [52/51] (32/37*, Coppa6/4, CL14/10) AC Milan
1.04 [52/50] (33/37*, FACup4/2, LCup2/3, CL8/6, EL5/2) Manchester United
*) the club has still to play further matches in that competition
Goals conceded (absolute):
1.
19 - Juventus Turin (37 matches) - Gigi Buffon
2.
22 - Bayern München (34 matches) - Manuel Neuer
3.
24 - Borussia M'gladbach (34 matches) - Marc-André ter Stegen
Other top defenses:
25 - Borussia Dortmund (34 matches) - Roman Weidenfeller
27 - Barcelona (37 matches) - Víctor Valdés
27 - Manchester City (37 matches) - Joe Hart
31 - Real Madrid (37 matches) - Iker Casillas
31 - Toulouse FC (35 matches) - Ali Ahamada
32 - AC Milan (37 matches) - Christian Abbiati
33 - Manchester United (37 matches) - David de Géa
33 - Montpellier HSC (35 matches) - Geoffrey Jourdren
Quotient goals/games (domestic):
0.51 (19/37*) Juventus Turin (Gigi Buffon)
0.65 (22/34) Bayern München (Manuel Neuer)
0.71 (24/34) Borussia M'gladbach (Marc-André ter Stegen)
0.73 (27/37*) Barcelona (Víctor Valdés)
0.73 (27/37*) Manchester City (Joe Hart)
0.74 (25/34) Borussia Dortmund (Roman Weidenfeller)
0.84 (31/37*) Real Madrid (Iker Casillas)
0.86 (32/37*) AC Milan (Christian Abbiati)
0.89 (33/37*) Manchester United (David de Géa)
0.89 (31/35*) Toulouse FC (Ali Ahamada)
0.94 (33/35*) Montpellier HSC (Geoffrey Jourdren)
Quotient goals/games (domestic, cups and international)
0.56 [23/41] (19/37*, Coppa4/4*) Juventus Turin
0.65 [33/51] (22/34, Pokal1/5*, CL10/12*) Bayern München
0.67 [26/39] (24/34, Pokal2/5) Borussia M'gladbach
0.74 [42/57] (27/37*, CDR5/8*, CL10/12) Barcelona
0.82 [37/45] (25/34, Pokal0/5*, CL12/6) Borussia Dortmund
0.85 [47/55] (31/37*, CDR7/6, CL9/12) Real Madrid
0.86 [44/51] (27/37*, FACup3/1, LCup5/5, CL6/6, EL3/2) Manchester City
0.90 [37/41] (33/35*, CdL3/2, CdF1/4) Montpellier HSC
0.92 [34/37] (31/35*, CdL2/1, CdF1/1) Toulouse FC
1.02 [52/51] (32/37*, Coppa6/4, CL14/10) AC Milan
1.04 [52/50] (33/37*, FACup4/2, LCup2/3, CL8/6, EL5/2) Manchester United
*) the club has still to play further matches in that competition
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Re: the best defense in Europe
There is nothing better than Nesta-Thiago Silva. NOTHING.
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