Re: ronaldo is a selfish Campeon

by Le Samourai Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:00

Loventus wrote:Finally a realistic thread

Hes not as bad as some say he is.

But he is also not top5 players in the world IMO.

Apart from scoring goals and outspeeding hes pretty average

People are so 'mad' about Messis success so they want to find someone better than him and Ronaldo has been a 'victim' of that.

Similar goes for Neymar.

by punkfusion1992 Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:03

Loventus wrote:Finally a realistic thread

Hes not as bad as some say he is.

But he is also not top5 players in the world IMO.

Apart from scoring goals and outspeeding hes pretty average

People are so 'mad' about Messis success so they want to find someone better than him and Ronaldo has been a 'victim' of that.

Similar goes for Neymar.

there is so much fail in this post......

by Lord Hades Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:03

Loventus wrote:That doesnt make you the 2nd best player anyway.

He is a good player for Madrid but not a leader.

Madrid without him can still beat allmost all of the teams.

For some games Madrid with CR is a better team, but not always.

Its embarrasing to see comparisions of him and Messi as everyone knows the only reason CR has been nominated for the Ballon dOr are his amount of goals scored, not the tittles he has inspired his team to win.

Not saying hes bad or anything but just saying that hes not what most of the people and especialli media make him out to be.

well his goal gave us a title, ironically the only title anyone was able to nick off from barca.. and if you think playing without ronaldo madrid get a lot of wins etc, please see our 09 season for reference, ,even in 07 and 08 we used to lose points in tough away games.. ronaldo scores a lot in these games.. before we made teams like sevilla a joke, the ramon sanchea pizuan was a terrible venue for madrid to come to..

by Le Samourai Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:05

Apparently Benz,Ozil,Ramos,Alonso,Marcelo,Higuain, have nothing to do with our improvement since 09....... Razz

Ronaldo plays well....to say he created a total shift is ridiculous

by punkfusion1992 Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:09

ragbirjosh wrote:Apparently Benz,Ozil,Ramos,Alonso,Marcelo,Higuain, have nothing to do with our improvement since 09.......

Ronaldo plays well....to say he created a total shift is ridiculous

i dont think diptiman was implying that
but its just that he scores some super important goals

if you look at 06-07 till 09-10 we never won at places like Seville but since his arrival, he seems to add alot to the team
he is an extremely important player for Madrid
and to criticize him would be stupid

by Le Samourai Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:15

punkfusion1992 wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Apparently Benz,Ozil,Ramos,Alonso,Marcelo,Higuain, have nothing to do with our improvement since 09.......

Ronaldo plays well....to say he created a total shift is ridiculous

i dont think diptiman was implying that
but its just that he scores some super important goals

if you look at 06-07 till 09-10 we never won at places like Seville but since his arrival, he seems to add alot to the team
he is an extremely important player for Madrid
and to criticize him would be stupid

How tho.....why exactly is he above criticism?

Anyway......he hasn't been playing well...that's a fair statement.....

by Loventus Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:16

That part of Neymar is about the last phrase only.

And please dont make posts like 'this post is a fail...' etc.

Back it up with some arguments to prove me wrong

And I think we are talkin of RM of this and the previous season

Besides scoring in the win of the Cup is not enough to be considered Worlds second best.

It requires much more than that.

by Ganso Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:17

Loventus wrote:Finally a realistic thread

Hes not as bad as some say he is.

But he is also not top5 players in the world IMO.

Apart from scoring goals and outspeeding hes pretty average

People are so 'mad' about Messis success so they want to find someone better than him and Ronaldo has been a 'victim' of that.

Similar goes for Neymar.

neymar is not all about scoring and being fast...

by punkfusion1992 Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:17

ragbirjosh wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Apparently Benz,Ozil,Ramos,Alonso,Marcelo,Higuain, have nothing to do with our improvement since 09.......

Ronaldo plays well....to say he created a total shift is ridiculous

i dont think diptiman was implying that
but its just that he scores some super important goals

if you look at 06-07 till 09-10 we never won at places like Seville but since his arrival, he seems to add alot to the team
he is an extremely important player for Madrid
and to criticize him would be stupid

How tho.....why exactly is he above criticism?

Anyway......he hasn't been playing well...that's a fair statement.....

yeah but the sort of criticism thats being labelled towards him for a couple of bad performances is amazing
like the whole overrated joke or people saying that he isnt even 2nd best anymore which after scoring 55 goals in a calendar year is stupid

by Lord Hades Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:18

ragbirjosh wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Apparently Benz,Ozil,Ramos,Alonso,Marcelo,Higuain, have nothing to do with our improvement since 09.......

Ronaldo plays well....to say he created a total shift is ridiculous

i dont think diptiman was implying that
but its just that he scores some super important goals

if you look at 06-07 till 09-10 we never won at places like Seville but since his arrival, he seems to add alot to the team
he is an extremely important player for Madrid
and to criticize him would be stupid

How tho.....why exactly is he above criticism?

Anyway......he hasn't been playing well...that's a fair statement.....

he hasnt played well in 5 games now. thats a tough run of form, not a collapse of his abilities. it doesnt warrant a thread like this.. hardly any of our team performed today.. or in the last few matches..

by Le Samourai Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:19

Anyway.....no one should take me seriously on this topic......an image formed in my mind a long time ago about what this guy actually is..........and it won' ever be altered, it can only be blocked out by good performances but it will never actually be changed.

by Le Samourai Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:22

Well.....some of his more essential skills haven't surfaced in over a year.....mainly dribbling.

Some stuff just isn't going right for him....1st touch passing etc.

Either way....as an inverted Winger you need above average dribbling and I'm not confident about his play in that specific category.He would improve and Di Maria would improve and he team would improve if he switched wings.It would allow him less avenue to screw up....it would give him a better go to move(kick and run) and it would force him to cross / pass...something he's actually good at.

by Lord Hades Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:22

ragbirjosh wrote:Anyway.....no one should take me seriously on this topic......an image formed in my mind a long time ago about what this guy actually is..........and it won' ever be altered, it can only be blocked out by good performances but it will never actually be changed.

i completely understand.. its the same feeling for benzema in my mind formed by his 2010 form .. i cant completely like him but know hes very imp for the team and what he provides

by Loventus Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:35

Once again I repeat the part of Neymar was about that people are relyctant to find someone better than Messi and they watch for Neymar who is not in his level of course, at least not yet.

by Ganso Sat 14 Jan 2012 - 23:38

oh ok,nevermind then

by Mr Nick09 Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:11

raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:13

CR7=Cesc.......

Both should leave thier respective clubs and are useless :coffee:

by baresi Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:14

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

by Lord Hades Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:16

baresi wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

btw ever wondered how they came to be drubbings in the first place

by Albiceleste Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:56

baresi wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

ronaldo is a selfish Campeon - Page 12 Coffee

by Lex Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 1:59

raulmadrid just turned this entire thread on its head with cold, hard facts

Baws

by FennecFox7 Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 6:14

diptiman wrote:
baresi wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

btw ever wondered how they came to be drubbings in the first place

this

by Lord Hades Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 7:04

doesnt it also signify that whichever match ronaldo played well turned into a rout because he scored hattricks or braces .. its not as he saw sevilla betting butchered 3 nil and asked them if he could score the other 3 to add to his tally

by kiranr Sun 15 Jan 2012 - 7:31

I am quite sure all this criticism against CR would cease if he ever grabs a big game by its scruff and pulls it away from the opposition. And it does not necessarily have to be by scoring.

People want to see more from Ronaldo. However, the negative opinions about him are clearly overboard.

by the xcx Thu 19 Jan 2012 - 0:20

by Mr Nick09 Thu 19 Jan 2012 - 0:57

The xcx wrote:

why do u facepalm? do you have something interesting to say?

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