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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:47 pm

Liverpool Statement

Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.

We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.

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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:49 pm

Lets calm down
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:49 pm

Tons of things are said to algerian-french players. Yet nothing happens.
So, how do we know Evra, someone who claimed racist abuse from SENEGAL fans, yes thats right senegal fans, to not be lying? Not enough evidence for an 8 match ban so devil is red don't even cry racism.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:49 pm

:facepalm: Very sad. This is extremely bad news for football's image
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:50 pm

aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
:facepalm:

Facepalm all you like. The fact remains that he only called him a name, it's not like he caused him physical harm.

you comments are laughable.......

good you don't live in America....
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Post by the xcx Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:52 pm

Liverpool is truly *bleep* now
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:52 pm

:facepalm:

Some of the memebers of the english FA should attend a football game in London whether it be QPR or Arsenal to gain a true measure of what is actually racist.

English punishing a latinamerican for calling a Frenchman black.

This is irony.
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Post by aford92 Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:52 pm

elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
:facepalm:

Facepalm all you like. The fact remains that he only called him a name, it's not like he caused him physical harm.

you comments are laughable.......

good you don't live in America....

Yes it is. A country full of over-sensitive people. Where you have to be politically correct almost all the time and everybody is offended by everything.

And yes, before you ask I have been there, 4 times.
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:53 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:

Stick that comment up your arse.

I can't believe people have a go at United or SAF or whatever in this situation. fck off!

yeah, i can't believe people are questioning the legitimacy of an eight match ban based on claims by one of the biggest *bleep* in world football either

people these days...
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:53 pm

am shocked some Liverpool fans are even standing up for such disgraceful behavior

if Messi did it, would have been such a field day for these same Pool fans, who would forget he is "Spanish" too
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Post by Abramovich Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:54 pm

ragbirjosh wrote: :facepalm:

Some of the memebers of the english FA should attend a football game in London whether it be QPR or Arsenal to gain a true measure of what is actually racist.

English punishing a latinamerican for calling a Frenchman black.

This is irony.

The are you on about? Let's have them visit the stands where the dads are encouraging their primary school kids to monkey chant yeah.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:55 pm

aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
:facepalm:

Facepalm all you like. The fact remains that he only called him a name, it's not like he caused him physical harm.

you comments are laughable.......

good you don't live in America....

Yes it is. A country full of over-sensitive people. Where you have to be politically correct almost all the time and everybody is offended by everything.

And yes, before you ask I have been there, 4 times.

couldn't have made yourself more laughable....
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Post by RED Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:56 pm

che wrote:
Devil-Is-Red wrote:

Stick that comment up your arse.

I can't believe people have a go at United or SAF or whatever in this situation. fck off!

yeah, i can't believe people are questioning the legitimacy of an eight match ban based on claims by one of the biggest *bleep* in world football either

people these days...

A claim that Suarez himself (far from a saint) has claimed to be true too. Ah yeah buddy, you don't know the full details, yet felt compelled to write that little sarcastic usual comment of yours.
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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:57 pm

elmystique wrote:am shocked some Liverpool fans are even standing up for such disgraceful behavior

if Messi did it, would have been such a field day for these same Pool fans, who would forget he is "Spanish" too

Field day for pool fans? What are you on about?
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:57 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:1) He called Evra a "negrito" and claimed he was doing it in a friendly manner, regarding the fact that he and Evra are not friends.

2) He continued to rile up Evra, knowing full well that Evra was getting irritated. Yet he continued to do it. That doesn't sound like someone "who didn't know the word is offensive in Europe"

3) He has been in Europe, surrounded by many black players, so I don't understand how he doesn't know that that word would be offensive to many people.

Conclusion: Well done the FA for stamping down on a serious issue such as this and setting a precedent towards others. Racism should not be tolerated in football.

To be honest in Uruguay and Argentina "negrito" is a common nickname and is not considered offensive. And it's not necessary applied to friends only. You are completely allowed to call someone of any race that word in most informal circumstances and no one would feel offedded.

For me it mostly seems like misunderstanding.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:58 pm

Club statement :bow:

Absolutely rips into United and FA.


Fergie is gonna hit back for sure now.

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Post by justdoit_ Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:58 pm

lol Who else is sitting back and enjoying the show?
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
:facepalm:

Facepalm all you like. The fact remains that he only called him a name, it's not like he caused him physical harm.

you comments are laughable.......

good you don't live in America....

Yes it is. A country full of over-sensitive people. Where you have to be politically correct almost all the time and everybody is offended by everything.

And yes, before you ask I have been there, 4 times.

couldn't have made yourself more laughable....

Really not convincing anyone here so far.

Kindly try harder and as I mentioned.... review the WHOLE ordeal.
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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Nirgal wrote:
Devil-Is-Red wrote:1) He called Evra a "negrito" and claimed he was doing it in a friendly manner, regarding the fact that he and Evra are not friends.

2) He continued to rile up Evra, knowing full well that Evra was getting irritated. Yet he continued to do it. That doesn't sound like someone "who didn't know the word is offensive in Europe"

3) He has been in Europe, surrounded by many black players, so I don't understand how he doesn't know that that word would be offensive to many people.

Conclusion: Well done the FA for stamping down on a serious issue such as this and setting a precedent towards others. Racism should not be tolerated in football.

To be honest in Uruguay and Argentina "negrito" is a common nickname and is not considered offensive. And it's not necessary applied to friends only. You are completely allowed to call someone of any race that word in most informal circumstances and no one would feel offedded.

For me it mostly seems like misunderstanding.

HE SAID IT TO A UNITED PLAYER.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Ade wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote: :facepalm:

Some of the memebers of the english FA should attend a football game in London whether it be QPR or Arsenal to gain a true measure of what is actually racist.

English punishing a latinamerican for calling a Frenchman black.

This is irony.

The are you on about? Let's have them visit the stands where the dads are encouraging their primary school kids to monkey chant yeah.

Spain is probably twice as worse.....I don't remember really...........I'm just saying that this is not racist.I've been to London recently and the Racism there is off the charts.....it's unbelievable...........so punishing this as a racist act is stupid, calling someone black dosen't come close to what you see there every 15 seconds.

If you want to end close all the satadiums with racist chants..........every club in london would be locked within the month.


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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

#lfc: "It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him"

:bow:

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Nirgal wrote:
Devil-Is-Red wrote:1) He called Evra a "negrito" and claimed he was doing it in a friendly manner, regarding the fact that he and Evra are not friends.

2) He continued to rile up Evra, knowing full well that Evra was getting irritated. Yet he continued to do it. That doesn't sound like someone "who didn't know the word is offensive in Europe"

3) He has been in Europe, surrounded by many black players, so I don't understand how he doesn't know that that word would be offensive to many people.

Conclusion: Well done the FA for stamping down on a serious issue such as this and setting a precedent towards others. Racism should not be tolerated in football.

To be honest in Uruguay and Argentina "negrito" is a common nickname and is not considered offensive. And it's not necessary applied to friends only. You are completely allowed to call someone of any race that word in most informal circumstances and no one would feel offedded.

For me it mostly seems like misunderstanding.

if Suarez wants to go around and call every dick harry and tom "negrito" he should **bleep** go and play his football in South America....

this is not a concrete reason to back those claims up...
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:

A claim that Suarez himself (far from a saint) has claimed to be true too. Ah yeah buddy, you don't know the full details, yet felt compelled to write that little sarcastic usual comment of yours.

my point was that noone would give a single *bleep* if patrice evra didn't throw a shit fit, but i imagine that sailed right over your head
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Post by aford92 Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:01 pm

elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
aford92 wrote:
elmystique wrote:
:facepalm:

Facepalm all you like. The fact remains that he only called him a name, it's not like he caused him physical harm.

you comments are laughable.......

good you don't live in America....

Yes it is. A country full of over-sensitive people. Where you have to be politically correct almost all the time and everybody is offended by everything.

And yes, before you ask I have been there, 4 times.

couldn't have made yourself more laughable....

Apparently the truth is laughable now. Anyway, it would appear we should agree to disagree on the issue. In my brief time alive I, like many others have realised that names and words do not hurt, at all. So when I see people crying, whining and complaining about being called a name I can't help but think why? It's just a name.


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Post by DRK Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:02 pm

8 games wow
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:03 pm

Americans...............

Elmystique......have you ever been to a basketball game?

you know that white guy who's trying out for the team?

When they call him "white boy" is that racist?
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