elmystique wrote:

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:

elmystique wrote:I could careless if my white friend called or addressed me as "black" or something but if someone I didn't know

walked up to me and said "hey black dude"

I mean wth...

Would it bother you if a black person walked up to you and said "hey black dude" or "excuse me my brother"?

Just curious to know if it matters what race the person asking the question is.

Don't get me wrong, if a stranger approached me on the street, I rather they not address me by my skin color (regardless of what race they are). But if it did happen I wouldn't think anything of it unless they prove I should think otherwise.

first off I doubt a black dude would address another black dude as "hey black dude" I have heard the street term n*ggar on a lot.

I don't get addressed as such because I don't hang out on the street, the N word is mostly related to gangs and streetwise people, hence if a white guy on the streets addressed his fellow gang member as "hey my n*ggar" he'd not get offended

if I addressed the same person as such, he would.

If I walked up to a white person and said "hey white boy" or say Asian person....

do you not think they wouldn't get offended?

what is good for the goose...

poolsupporter wrote:

elmystique wrote:

poolsupporter wrote:

elmystique wrote:

poolsupporter wrote:

elmystique wrote:

poolsupporter wrote:

elmystique wrote:

poolsupporter wrote:

And you somehow have the magical power of reading Suarez's mind and figuring out his intentions? His background suddenly has nothing to do about it? You've clearly got an agenda against Suarez and most here can see it.

if giving the middle finger is HI in some country and a citizen of that country goes to America and gives the middle finger to a cop,

what do you think would happen?

What the hell are you on about? You claim others in here have no logic but you go ahead and make stupid comparisons like these?

background culture is not a justifiable case for doing the wrong thing...

Oh and we're back to the context not mattering. Yay.

am glad you thinking selfishly one sided about the context with which Suarez meant it,

how about the context in which Evra also understood it?

I've maintained my argument about it not even being a racial slur.

whether Suarez meant it to be racist or not, you ad I cannot tell,

but what we work on is what he uttered, and what we feel to be right and wrong and of common sense of judgement....

Jeeeez!!!! That's my point. What he uttered is not something I consider to be a racial slur, and after reading about the history of the word online as well as from others on here, the context adds to my point.

Why aren't you all mad about Hernandez?

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:

elmystique wrote:

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:

elmystique wrote:I could careless if my white friend called or addressed me as "black" or something but if someone I didn't know

walked up to me and said "hey black dude"

I mean wth...

Would it bother you if a black person walked up to you and said "hey black dude" or "excuse me my brother"?

Just curious to know if it matters what race the person asking the question is.

Don't get me wrong, if a stranger approached me on the street, I rather they not address me by my skin color (regardless of what race they are). But if it did happen I wouldn't think anything of it unless they prove I should think otherwise.

first off I doubt a black dude would address another black dude as "hey black dude" I have heard the street term n*ggar on a lot.

I don't get addressed as such because I don't hang out on the street, the N word is mostly related to gangs and streetwise people, hence if a white guy on the streets addressed his fellow gang member as "hey my n*ggar" he'd not get offended

if I addressed the same person as such, he would.

If I walked up to a white person and said "hey white boy" or say Asian person....

do you not think they wouldn't get offended?

what is good for the goose...

so much fail

Devil-Is-Red wrote:That Liverpool Statement

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

elmystique wrote:

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:

elmystique wrote:

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:

elmystique wrote:I could careless if my white friend called or addressed me as "black" or something but if someone I didn't know

walked up to me and said "hey black dude"

I mean wth...

Would it bother you if a black person walked up to you and said "hey black dude" or "excuse me my brother"?

Just curious to know if it matters what race the person asking the question is.

Don't get me wrong, if a stranger approached me on the street, I rather they not address me by my skin color (regardless of what race they are). But if it did happen I wouldn't think anything of it unless they prove I should think otherwise.

first off I doubt a black dude would address another black dude as "hey black dude" I have heard the street term n*ggar on a lot.

I don't get addressed as such because I don't hang out on the street, the N word is mostly related to gangs and streetwise people, hence if a white guy on the streets addressed his fellow gang member as "hey my n*ggar" he'd not get offended

if I addressed the same person as such, he would.

If I walked up to a white person and said "hey white boy" or say Asian person....

do you not think they wouldn't get offended?

what is good for the goose...

so much fail

elmystique wrote:

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

I am all for proof being found and Suarez proven innocent, but until then, he is guilty as as now,

and same thing implies in murder cases right?

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

There is no correct logic in his posts. Throughout this thread he has used improper methods of reasoning.

Sepi wrote:

Devil-Is-Red wrote:That Liverpool Statement

ahahahahaha.................So proud of that. enough of injustice and bias that David Gill in the FA.

I hope we nuke that organization tomorrow....we are gonna rape them and take them to international courts. FA is done.

Nishank wrote:

elmystique wrote:

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

I am all for proof being found and Suarez proven innocent, but until then, he is guilty as as now,

and same thing implies in murder cases right?

Actually no.. You can't touch the guy until you have proof.

Again you fail.

elmystique wrote:

Nishank wrote:

elmystique wrote:

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

I am all for proof being found and Suarez proven innocent, but until then, he is guilty as as now,

and same thing implies in murder cases right?

Actually no.. You can't touch the guy until you have proof.

Again you fail.

not with an 8 match ban on his head,

again I win, you lose....

elmystique wrote:
first off I doubt a black dude would address another black dude as "hey black dude" I have heard the street term n*ggar on a lot.

I don't get addressed as such because I don't hang out on the street, the N word is mostly related to gangs and streetwise people, hence if a white guy on the streets addressed his fellow gang member as "hey my n*ggar" he'd not get offended

if I addressed the same person as such, he would.

If I walked up to a white person and said "hey white boy" or say Asian person....

do you not think they wouldn't get offended?

what is good for the goose...

(GSM) - France skipper Patrice Evra has admitted he cannot go home to Senegal.

The Manchester United fullback sparked fury back home in 2002 when he opted to play for France's Under-21s rather than the country of his birth.

Evra is now set to captain Les Bleus at the World Cup, which takes off for France on Friday when they face Uruguay.

The left-back, 29, explained: "I grew up amid a Senegalese culture at home.

"But we became Westernised very quickly and when I had to choose between playing for Senegal or France my father told me to follow my heart.

"I opted for France, as that was where I had grown up, but I then came in for lots of abuse in Senegal.

"I was called a monkey who grovels before the white man and labelled a money-obsessed traitor to the nation. But my parents helped me get through it.

elmystique wrote:

Nishank wrote:

elmystique wrote:

kiranr wrote:The intent is important Elmystique. If a person commits murder, but it was done in self defense, then there wont be any conviction.

By your logic Elmystique, since the victim was killed, regardless of the intent, the person should be convicted. That is faulty.

I am all for proof being found and Suarez proven innocent, but until then, he is guilty as as now,

and same thing implies in murder cases right?

Actually no.. You can't touch the guy until you have proof.

Again you fail.

not with an 8 match ban on his head,

again I win, you lose....

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:Way to avoid the question and turn it into a rhetorical question. You're not that slick, son.

There's a reason I put the other option "excuse me my brother" and you still managed to avoid answering. Also, you're mistaken, the "N" word is not mostly associated with gangs (perhaps that's the way it is where you're from). The "N" word is thrown around like there is no tomorrow (have you listened to rap these days) and believe me most of those guys aren't gangsters. It was all over the high schools I went to and it was used by many (if not all) friends I chilled with.

It's also weird that you think a white person would say "hey black dude", but you doubt a black person would say it. What does that say about you?

I'm done speaking with you, let me know when you decide to man up and actually answer my question.

mr-r34 wrote:By the looks of it there a lot of Suarez haters rather then racism defenders.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.


When will this be addressed in the topic, evra admitted to it and there is no charge, this case is just absurd, if it can be taken to the courts it will be overturned.