Is Rafa Benitez Underrated?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:24 pm

I personally think he's up there tactically with anyone and has practically won everything in Spain and England apart from the Premier League and was unlucky not to win that i felt......

His main problem is i dont think he's a great man manager but i think he's very underrated as a coach.

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Post by che Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:31 pm

he's rated just fine by people who have a basic grasp of logic

sadly that's the minority, so he's underrated because of all the "rafa destroyed liverpool and inter" idiots
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:34 pm

Quite under rated. I didn't blame him for Liverpool's bad times before he left and I still don't.
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Post by McAgger Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:35 pm

Rafa would do wonders at any club if he has an assistant with supreme man managing skills. Tactically he's second to none.
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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:36 pm

The true question is: is he WC or not?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:37 pm

Messiakanino wrote:Rafa would do wonders at any club if he has an assistant with supreme man managing skills. Tactically he's second to none.

Are you referring to Pako Ayesterian ? Always thought he was key to Liverpool's success at the time.

For what's it worth i agree.
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Post by Highburied Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:38 pm

Overrated.
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Post by che Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:40 pm

ayesteran is a fitness coach... the rotation was his idea Laughing
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:41 pm

A step below the best managers out there today.

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Post by Sushi Master Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:51 pm

Great tournament coach, but was underwhelming in the league with Liverpool, IMO.

Let's all forget his Inter spell. Really needs to go back to Spain to earn his reputation back.

Or maybe Chelsea once they sack AVB banana
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:58 pm

Under rated for me

The only manager who got liverpool within the touching distance of winning the first ever PL

They played good football as well, not to mention gerrard was a beast under him

Gerrard :bow:
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:59 pm

and Torres :bow:
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:59 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Quite under rated. I didn't blame him for Liverpool's bad times before he left and I still don't.

What about Inter?
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:00 pm

Tactically fantastic. Masterminding All those victories at OT, SB (when it was actually a force), Bernabeu, Meazza, Camp Nou is an amazing achievement.

Not to mention, twice Nullifying and overcoming Mou in CL, in one of the most tactical battles of the decade, with largely cheaper and inferior players.

A fantastic human being as well....Of course he has his flaws too, for example, his stubborn-ness at times, and of course Athens final where I believe, he knows that too, was one of his darkest nights tactically. Great eye for Talent, and wanted to bring likes of Villa, Alves, etc all to Liverpool back in 2006 before they were big names, only to be denied by our boards', n more than 10M on a non-PL player strategy.

Bettered Wenger's league performances during his time in England despite Liverpool of 2004 (when he took over) was very very very very inferior to Arsenal of the same time.

Gave us fans some amazing, and fantastic memories, and will wish him the best and follow him with great interest.

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Post by Guest Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:03 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Quite under rated. I didn't blame him for Liverpool's bad times before he left and I still don't.

What about Inter?

And Inter are doing amazingly with him gone...eh. Suspect A team absolutely spent, last season, loss of depth up front (Milito gone), so many injuries, and players who had lost their hunger. He was right from day one that team needs fresh faces, and I am sure Inter fans will admit it too.

That's the Mourinho syndrome. Rafa, being Mou's biggest enemy, was an absolute idiot for taking that job, knowing players hated him from day one. I can't wait to read the man's autobiography when he speaks of all the under-the-scene stuff he had to deal with.


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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:05 pm

highburied wrote:Overrated.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:06 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Quite under rated. I didn't blame him for Liverpool's bad times before he left and I still don't.

What about Inter?

I can't say he did well with Inter, but he was not with them for a sufficient amount of time and he asked for specific signings coupled with the hangover from 09/10 it was destined to fail. Inter aren't exactly doing great without him even now.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:07 pm

Inter are currently at the 16th spot (with a game in hand). What's the worst position they achieved with Rafa?
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:10 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Inter are currently at the 16th spot (with a game in hand). What's the worst position they achieved with Rafa?

9th and that was after the draw in the first game of the season. After that the lowest was 7th.
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Post by zizzle Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:11 pm

is rafa worldclass ?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:12 pm

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Inter are currently at the 16th spot (with a game in hand). What's the worst position they achieved with Rafa?

9th and that was after the draw in the first game of the season. After that the lowest was 7th.

He also had 2 games in hand......
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Post by zizzle Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:14 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Inter are currently at the 16th spot (with a game in hand). What's the worst position they achieved with Rafa?

9th and that was after the draw in the first game of the season. After that the lowest was 7th.

He also had 2 games in hand......


it warms my soul that people are comparing Rafa's mediacore performance at Inter to that of Gasparini
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:19 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Inter are currently at the 16th spot (with a game in hand). What's the worst position they achieved with Rafa?

9th and that was after the draw in the first game of the season. After that the lowest was 7th.

He also had 2 games in hand......

Technically he won 2 trophies as well lol albeit mostly down to Jose.
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Post by Guest Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:19 pm

Rafa rests Torres ahead of crucial European Tie --> Media: "Fat Spanish Waiter and his stupid rotation strategy strike again"

Ferguson doesn't play the same team in the league for an entire season --> Media: "Sir Alex demonstrates his superb squad management skills yet again"

Rafa's Liverpool go on a 10 game winning streak, conceding 3 in process, most 1-0 wins --> Media: "Why are Liverpool so defensive and cautious?"

Fergie's United don't concede a goal in 10 games and win all of them 1-0 --> Media: "Grinding out results, even if you are not at top of your game. That's a champion's trait and Sir Alex has done it again"

Rafa's Liverpool have 6 Spanish representatives in Spain's Confed. Cup 2009 squad. --> Media: "Benitez has destroyed Liverpool's soul, Spanish players are too homesick and lightweight for here". All Liverpool need is an arm around the shoulder manager like Roy Hodgson, who can bring Liverpool's traditions back to the club and give them more Englishness. Maybe then, they'd have a chance of winning at places like Stoke.



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Arshavin: "Media hated Benitez. They wanted to kill him. In their eyes, he couldn't do anything right for Liverpool, no matter if they won, drew, or lost a game"

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Post by Highburied Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:19 pm

Liverpool fans are delusional.


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