el classico - La Liga (Week 15): Real Madrid CF Vs FC Barcelona

DV7 wrote:

sportsczy wrote:We'll never park the bus unless we're winning and there's 20 mins or less to go... then we may.

Haha, well I sure hope you dont

dnmac4 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:would u start Sanchez or Pedro dnmac ?

Pedro all the way. He always plays well against Madrid and even if he's not scoring we need his directness and pace plus his hounding Madrid when we lose the ball.

Alexis I believe will be very good for us but I don't think he has any clue what he's stepping into and we just can't afford to have him getting used to the atmosphere and speed of the game for the first 30 minutes as we are in big trouble if Madrid scores first. I know he played in the Supercopa but this is different.

Barca and Spain have been missing an in form Pedro and IMO he's one of the best wingers in the world and quite frankly I'm tired of Pep trying to replace him.

Dont you think that Alexis would be better considering his and Pedros form? And its not like Alexis is missing pace or directness. And imho Alexis is at least as good as Pedro tracking back and pressing to win the ball. The only thing Pedro is better on is finishing, which we havent seen that much of... And Pedro has not played good always vs Madrid. Maybe its just me having a bad memory, but in the CL away game vs Madrid he didnt do single sh!et, then Afellay came in and changed the whole game.

How do you mean by different between the Supercopa and the league clasico? I mean, he played a match against them and did really, really good and was also raping Marcelo. In fact, I think we need more of his dribbling skills than Pedro to create space.

Oh well, we'll see what Pep decides. I just hope he isnt stupid enough to play Keita from start LOL.

The Supercopa was kind of a meaningless game and most of our team was out of shape and coming back from vacations or national team duties etc. Don't get me wrong, both teams wanted to win and the games were great but it's just not the same as the away league fixture at Madrid which is our hardest game every year.

I think if you asked Pep or Mou they would tell you wining the Supercopa is great but the league is the most important especially when losing this game would almost wrap La Liga up for Madrid and at the very least would put an insane amount of pressure on Barca and they would need to win every game in La Liga going forward and then still they may not catch up.

Also, I don't think Madrid will play as open as they did and this will be a physical war with Madrid looking for a tie/win but will not gift Barca anything and be way more defensive.

As for Sanchez tracking back and pressing the ball as well as Pedro, just no. I mean no offense but it's not even close and it shouldn't be as Alexis has been in this system for months compared to Pedro being in it for years. IMO, Pedro is the best on our team at pressing and wining the ball back and may be one of the best in the world at this. Plus if you read my other post Pedro stays out on the wing where Sanchez likes to cut in and it clogs things up.

As for there form, Pedro has been injured and Sanchez hasn't been a world beater either. He was great last game, but before that he wasn't playing great or anything but was effective. When Pedro's in the game it just makes Barca a different team it's hard to explain but they are more energetic and direct and he's a great outlet on the wing and he has a knack for getting on the end of deflections.

And lastly, I think your memory is off a little as Pedro plays great against Madrid and in big games. I'm not going to pull up statrs but he's scored a bunch of times against Madrid.

One of those few games I watch where I am a neutral. May the best team win!

Also, as for Pedro's performances against Madrid, in the last 4 true Clasico's (La Liga reg season) Pedro has scored in 2 of them not to mention one of the goals was in his first ever Clasico.

Out of the 2 Champions League games last year Pedro scored in 1 of them which was basically the goal that put Barca through to the finals, not to mention he scored in the finals of the Champions league.

As for the Supercopa this year he didn't start the first game and I don't think he played much at all and was subbed out in the second around halftime I believe

I'm almost 100% positive he's had an assist or two in these games as well but I'm too lazy to look it up.

For a winger and not a CF these are great numbers especially for a young player. He just always seems to play well against Madrid for some reason.

Classico only, please and thank you. If its crap then why the intrest in the thread.

I've seen all sorts of Clasico's but boring really isn't one of them.

I fear that Madrid may receive a monumental thrashing. Everyone is hyping how good this Madrid team has become, they might become complacent and start buying into their own hype.

Furthermore, Barca is just starting to pick up their great form in the beginning of December, just like every season in recent memory.

dnmac4 wrote:Also, as for Pedro's performances against Madrid, in the last 4 true Clasico's (La Liga reg season) Pedro has scored in 2 of them not to mention one of the goals was in his first ever Clasico.

Out of the 2 Champions League games last year Pedro scored in 1 of them which was basically the goal that put Barca through to the finals, not to mention he scored in the finals of the Champions league.

As for the Supercopa this year he didn't start the first game and I don't think he played much at all and was subbed out in the second around halftime I believe

I'm almost 100% positive he's had an assist or two in these games as well but I'm too lazy to look it up.

For a winger and not a CF these are great numbers especially for a young player. He just always seems to play well against Madrid for some reason.

It's because he takes his chances.

Pedro is a player I really admire....as a winger...his finesse finsihing is World Class Imo.Also, some people choose to selectively overlook the fact that he is a very decent dribbler and overall hardwroking player, and act like if all he does is finish.For me he and Sanchez + Messi wold provide a near perfect balance for the front line.

Barca vs Real Madrid (La Liga Stats - Week13 | Note: Barca played +1match)

~ Barca:
- Open Play 34
- Set Piece 4
- Own Goal 2
- Fast Break 1
- Penalty 1

~ RealMadrid:
- Open Play 25
- Fast Break 9
- Set Piece 6
- Penalty 6
- Own Goal 0

`Note: FCBarcelona conceeded 15 goals in 23 matches this season including 6 from set-pieces (Corners) !

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~ Some Players Stats:

~ Messi vs RealMadrid: played 15 matches ( 8W, 4D, 3L) in all competitions scored 13 goals & provided 7assists.

~ C.Ronaldo vs FCBarcelona: played 12 matches (2W, 4D, 6L) in all competitions scored 3 goals.

~ Valdes vs RealMadrid: Played 21matches (10W, 5D, 6L) conceded 27goals [ 7 Cleansheets]

~ Casillas vs FCBarcelona: Played 26matches (7W, 8D, 11L) conceded 46goals [ 5 cleansheets]

~ Current Form ~

`La Liga STATS ( Week 14 ):

- Standing Table
1 Real Madrid CF 37pts +39
2 FC Barcelona 34 +40 (+1 match)
3 Valencia CF 30 +9
4 Levante UD 26 +6

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- Real Madrid played 14 League matches (12W, 1D, 1L) this season scored 49goals & conceded 10.

- Barcelona played 15 League matches (10W, 4D, 1L) this season scored 47goals & conceded 7.

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`Goals Scored:

~ Barca (47 League Goals):
- Open Play 36
- Set Piece 6
- Own Goal 2
- Fast Break 2
- Penalty 1

~ RealMadrid (49 League Goals):
- Open Play 28
- Fast Break 9
- Set Piece 6
- Penalty 6

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`Possession (average):
- RealMadrid: 63%
- Barcelona: 71%

`Passing Accuracy:
- RealMadrid: 86%
- Barcelona: 90%

`Shots on Target per Game:
- RealMadrid: 8
- Barcelona: 8

`Fouls commited per game:
- RealMadrid: 17
- Barcelona: 14

`Shots conceded per game:
- RealMadrid: 10
- Barcelona: 6

`Interception/Tackles per game:
- RealMadrid: 16/23
- Barcelona: 17/20

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>>> Players Stats <<<


` TopScorers (2 goals or more JUST in the League):

- FCBarcelona:
1- Leo Messi 17goals
2- Cesc Fabregas 7
3- David Villa 5
4- Alexis 4
4- Xavi 4
6- Cuenca 2

- RealMadrid CF:
1- Cristiano Ronaldo 17goals
2- Higuain 12
3- Benzema 7
4- DiMaria 3
4- Kaka 3
6- Marcelo 2

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` Top Assisters (2 assists or more JUST in the League:)

- FCBarcelona:
1- Leo Messi 7assists
2- Fabregas 5
2- Xavi 5
2- Alves 5
5- Iniesta 4
6- Thiago 2
Abidal 2
Pedro 2
Adriano 2

- RealMadrid CF:
1- DiMaria 11assists
2- Cristiano 6
3- Ozil 5
4- Ramos 3
4- Arbeloa 3
6- Benzema 2
Kaka 2
Alonso 2
Coentrao 2

Secret footage of Madrid preparing for the Clasico!!

Seriously, no one has anything to say about those gifs? lol

Zealous wrote:Seriously, no one has anything to say about those gifs? lol

I just noticed Lion cubs atmosphere with the big lion watching over them (Mou)

Are they just messing about or they practicing how to dive and kick the shit outta Barca lol?

Zealous wrote:Seriously, no one has anything to say about those gifs? lol

Don't care,the Madrid player's I respect ain't doing anything.

Divine Intervention wrote:El plastico!
All plastic fans of the world aka bandwagoners will gather tomorrow to watch another oscar performance by Spanish *bleep*.

Seriously

Why did they let you back?

Crimson wrote:

Divine Intervention wrote:El plastico!
All plastic fans of the world aka bandwagoners will gather tomorrow to watch another oscar performance by Spanish *bleep*.

Seriously

Why did they let you back?

??
I was never away to begin with. Who are you?

~ #Messi vs #RealMadrid: played 15 matches ( 8W, 4D, 3L) in all competitions scored 13 goals & provided 7assists.

~ #Messi vs #RealMadrid (at the Bernabeu): played 8 matches [4W|2D|2L] scored 7 goals & provided 4assists.

~ #elclasico All time topscorers: Di Stefano 18 goals | Raul 15 | Cesar, Gento, Puskas 14 | MESSI 13 .


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~ Guardiola [coach] vs Realmadrid in Laliga: 5W, 1D, 0L | GoalDifference:

~ Guardiola [coach] vs realmadrid at the Bernabeu [LaLiga]: 2W, 1D, 0L | GoalDifference: 9-3.

~ Guardiola [coach] vs RealMadrid at the Bernabeu [all competitions ] 3W, 2D , 0L | Goal Difference: 13-5.

~ Guardiola record vs #Mourinho : 11games [5W,4D,2L] | Goal-difference: 18-10.

Looking forward to this game, then reading comments after the match

This match is going to be mouth watering. As a football fan I literally can't be more excited. This is the 1st time that both Madrid and Barcelona have been at the peak(ish) of their powere at the same time since the 60s, and even then Herrera's Barcelona dominated the domestic scene but Di Stefano's RM beat them in Europe. These two are far wand away the best two team in EUrope atm and they both have completely differnt philosophies. Can't wait. I know there would be non of that diving stuff of the 4 classico fest.

Jibers your enthusiasm is contagious

jibers wrote:I know there would be non of that diving stuff of the 4 classico fest.

How can you make such a blasphemous statement knowing that players like Busquets, Di Maria, Pedro, Alves, Mascherano, Ronaldo, and Marcelo will be on the pitch?

Divine Intervention wrote:

Crimson wrote:

Divine Intervention wrote:El plastico!
All plastic fans of the world aka bandwagoners will gather tomorrow to watch another oscar performance by Spanish *bleep*.

Seriously

Why did they let you back?

??
I was never away to begin with. Who are you?

WTF your back...

Bring it on, bring it on damn it!!!!
Can’t wait!!!

Some seem jelly other games don't get the attention the great el clasico gets [with all the drama behind it]

Anyway the excitement is slowly building up it seems all around me [real life, interwebz, etc ].

Anyway let the reverse jinxes commence from follow madridistas