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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:50 am

harhar11 wrote:Why should there be an outrage when real madrid got fined because they did it in the CL while Pique in La Liga. Real Madrid have done that the exact same thing in la liga without getting any suspension..

deliberate yellows to play important matches have been around forever, but really only got large recognition last year when madrid got fined.

la liga and cl are 2 separate entities, uefa decided to fine madrid..

now that this type of event has gained a lot of notoriety, lfp might want to make an example out of barca like uefa did to madrid.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:03 am

In the CL match case it was obvious that Mou gave instructions to Alonso and RAmos to do it, while in this case Pep did no such thing.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:58 am

Crimson wrote:If Madrid did it you can be sure to see fines and extra suspensions

But since its Barce its ok and everyone wholly expects you to get away with it
Xabi Alonso against A.Madrid on Saturday? Nobody said anything. Ultralol of the centuries. Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:18 pm

viepr149 wrote:maybe because they didnt make it so obvious like murinho did.

in murinho case you could actually see them conspiring.

and think that could be the difference.

on talks about making it obvious, at least iker had just been fouled when ramos took it, here you see both wasting time on teh same goal kick

couldnt find a longer video, but pep shouted busquets name and told him to get a yellow and then at the end of this video you see him clapping at them

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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:20 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:In the CL match case it was obvious that Mou gave instructions to Alonso and RAmos to do it, while in this case Pep did no such thing.

Come on now. Don't be naive.
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Post by izzy Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:21 pm

Who actually gives a shit?
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:24 pm

Pique will probably be benched anyway like he was vs Milan coz he is slow. Razz
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:24 pm

LOL Pique delayed the game and had to be booked. what it has to do with Pep ?
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:25 pm

Honestly I want Pique to play in El Clasico. If we win his derpy face is going to be fun to watch.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:28 pm

Refdrid's Xabi Alonso's deliberate and pointless fifth foul against "Real" Madrid on saturday:

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Expect both get suspensions, or none. Else it's just more power to the conspiracy theories which has plagued La Liga this season.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:28 pm

Can someone explain to me why a 2 game ban is being considered?

When ever this has happened in the past the player has always been given a 1 game ban......

Whether it be Terry last week, Alonso and Ramos last year or Eto'o and Deco back in the day etc etc

It's always been a 1 game ban not 2.....

Not getting it myself.
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:35 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Can someone explain to me why a 2 game ban is being considered?

When ever this has happened in the past the player has always been given a 1 game ban......

Whether it be Terry last week, Alonso and Ramos last year or Eto'o and Deco back in the day etc etc

It's always been a 1 game ban not 2.....

Not getting it myself.

Article 112 of the Disciplinary Code reads: "Any player, who during the course of a game, provokes a fifth booking may be sanctioned with, in addition to the penalty provided for in the first paragraph of this article [a standard one-game ban], an extra one game suspension and fined the amount of €600. In determining the intent of the player, circumstances will be taken into account such as the nature of the breaching of the game rules and the attitude of the player during the match."

It's a part of La Liga rules apparently.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:36 pm

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Immaculate_Mole wrote:Can someone explain to me why a 2 game ban is being considered?

When ever this has happened in the past the player has always been given a 1 game ban......

Whether it be Terry last week, Alonso and Ramos last year or Eto'o and Deco back in the day etc etc

It's always been a 1 game ban not 2.....

Not getting it myself.

Article 112 of the Disciplinary Code reads: "Any player, who during the course of a game, provokes a fifth booking may be sanctioned with, in addition to the penalty provided for in the first paragraph of this article [a standard one-game ban], an extra one game suspension and fined the amount of €600. In determining the intent of the player, circumstances will be taken into account such as the nature of the breaching of the game rules and the attitude of the player during the match."

It's a part of La Liga rules apparently.

It's been done in La Liga before and all that was given was a 1 game ban......

Rule must of just been made up last night Laughing
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:37 pm

Mole they edited the rules this year. So that now if it is proven they will recieve 2 instead of one. In La Liga that is.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:39 pm

Mole, 1 game suspension the normal for a fifth yellow

then you add one more for the deliberate yellow

1+1=2
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:43 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Mole they edited the rules this year. So that now if it is proven they will recieve 2 instead of one. In La Liga that is.

Ah ok then.......

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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:51 pm

jiopsi wrote:Refdrid's Xabi Alonso's deliberate and pointless fifth foul against "Real" Madrid on saturday:

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Expect both get suspensions, or none. Else it's just more power to the conspiracy theories which has plagued La Liga this season.

Not the same thing. U MAD? 🐰
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:00 pm

Zealous wrote:
jiopsi wrote:Refdrid's Xabi Alonso's deliberate and pointless fifth foul against "Real" Madrid on saturday:

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Expect both get suspensions, or none. Else it's just more power to the conspiracy theories which has plagued La Liga this season.

Not the same thing. U MAD? 🐰
Why mad? Let it flow. Laughing
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:12 pm

Because Pique is a dimwit and his stupidity is going to make him miss the Clasico.

But it's cool bro I'm here for you Heart
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Post by Senor Penguin Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
viepr149 wrote:maybe because they didnt make it so obvious like murinho did.

in murinho case you could actually see them conspiring.

and think that could be the difference.

on talks about making it obvious, at least iker had just been fouled when ramos took it, here you see both wasting time on teh same goal kick

couldnt find a longer video, but pep shouted busquets name and told him to get a yellow and then at the end of this video you see him clapping at them

Pep trying to emulate Mourinho? Afro

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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:17 pm

Zealous wrote:Because Pique is a dimwit and his stupidity is going to make him miss the Clasico.

But it's cool bro I'm here for you Heart
No, Refdrid is going to make him miss Clasico, if anything.

Let it flow, bro. Laughing
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:22 pm

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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:23 pm

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Post by Adit Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:23 pm

How is alonso getting yellow for a tackle when match was 1-1 even remotely close to pique getting yelow for "TIME WASTING" ooff caps,when barca were up 4-0 in 83rd minute?

If anything pique is stupid to force card like that,he should have followed what iniesta did last year in CL that is stay infront of a opposition freekick and never move even if referee asked you to do so...


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Post by Doc Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:24 pm

One happened during a derby when the score was 1-1 in the 39th minute (or 38th). The other happened around the 83rd minute when the score was 4-0 to Barcelona's favour. Not that it matters (and it really doesn't) but Pique hasn't done himself any favours with this one and if he is to receive an extra suspension, then he has no one but himself to blame for that.

The Alonso foul was a deliberate foul but because of the circumstances of the foul, it can be easily proven it wasn't an intentional yellow card he wanted. My personal take is that he knew what he was doing. He stopped a counter while getting a yellow ensuring he would be in the Clasico. Use of one's brain is important apparently...


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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:24 pm

jiopsi wrote:
Zealous wrote:Because Pique is a dimwit and his stupidity is going to make him miss the Clasico.

But it's cool bro I'm here for you Heart
No, Refdrid is going to make him miss Clasico, if anything.

Let it flow, bro. Laughing

How much some people can be delusional. :facepalm:
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