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Post by the xcx Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:21 pm

Is it Abidal or Valdes?
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:40 pm

being relaint on Messi.

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Post by BarcaKizz Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:42 pm

Neither... Valdes is one of the most important players on the team and Abidal is generally a rock.

Weakest link right now is our forwardline. Pedro and Villa have lost form, Afellay and Sanchez have been out, Cesc hasn't been great yet.
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Post by the xcx Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:42 pm

El Pipita wrote:being relaint on Messi.

That too yeah. I know players never are bigger than clubs, but this is not the case here. He scores like 40% of goals in barca, and saved them hundreds of times.
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Post by Gil Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:44 pm

Weak link is probably their wide players. None are in great form at the moment.

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Post by izzy Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:46 pm

Villa. I don't know how clear it can be that he doesn't like playing on the left.

Missed a host of chances. Shadow of his former self right now.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:48 pm

Fabregas and wide players.....
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:06 pm

Gil wrote:Weak link is probably their wide players. None are in great form at the moment.


Without Alves there is no natural width in that side.

Long diagonal balls to the flanks could potentially cause them a lot of problems.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:13 pm

I dunno why Barca fans expect for Fabregas to go on a goalscoring spree or something. He's never played so far up on the pitch at Arsenal.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:17 pm

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Post by harhar11 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:18 pm

^I don't think that any barca fans is expecting that from him though, we just thought that he would be much more involved in trying to dictace the play but as you said he is playing at a much hihger position now..

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Post by The Franchise Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:18 pm

Sushi Master wrote:I dunno why Barca fans expect for Fabregas to go on a goalscoring spree or something. He's never played so far up on the pitch at Arsenal.

We dont want goals, thats the issue.

He is scoring alot of goals, but that wont mask his flaws with many fans. Its everything else that we dont like.

His best game actually was on the weekend, where he didnt even look like scoring.
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:20 pm

You guys have to realize that you can't change the style of a player. Villa just doesn't like to play at the wing.
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Post by harhar11 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:23 pm

El Pipita wrote:You guys have to realize that you can't change the style of a player. Villa just doesn't like to play at the wing.

Some of the best goals that villa has scored, have come with him cutting in from the wings. Like that goal against honduras for example.

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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:24 pm

Dependence on Messi imo and poor form of Villa.
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:25 pm

Badly need a player like Maxi.

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Post by izzy Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:26 pm

harhar11 wrote:
El Pipita wrote:You guys have to realize that you can't change the style of a player. Villa just doesn't like to play at the wing.

Some of the best goals that villa has scored, have come with him cutting in from the wings. Like that goal against honduras for example.

That is completly irrelevent. He plays his best when he is central. The quality of the goal has no bearing on the performance he gives. He dosen't like the left and that is showing.
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:28 pm

David Villa is not a weak link.........Messi always drops insanely deep and allows him to move into his natural position in big games.

I'd say individually their weakest player is busquets......most AM's would have thier way with him one on one, but he fits the system perfectly so team wise he is far from a weakness.

Overall they have many weaknesses however no one can exploit them because they have no possesion.

>Lack of Width w/ Sanchez.

>Lack of Speed thus vurnerability to counter attack.

>Adventurous defenders compounding lack of speed.

These problems though, are minor.Easily alleviated through neat high pressure and great anticipation from all defenders + Busquets and posession.But if someone needs to exploit an area...thats where it needs to be

Lastly but probably most importantly.....SET PLAYS.
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:28 pm

harhar11 wrote:
El Pipita wrote:You guys have to realize that you can't change the style of a player. Villa just doesn't like to play at the wing.

Some of the best goals that villa has scored, have come with him cutting in from the wings. Like that goal against honduras for example.

At Spain NT he's the focal point of the attack. he's a bit like Benzema, he likes to roam arround and create space for himself and others. at Barca he's told to stay just on his flank and create space for Messi.
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Post by harhar11 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:32 pm

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El Pipita wrote:You guys have to realize that you can't change the style of a player. Villa just doesn't like to play at the wing.

Some of the best goals that villa has scored, have come with him cutting in from the wings. Like that goal against honduras for example.

At Spain NT he's the focal point of the attack. he's a bit like Benzema, he likes to roam arround and create space for himself and others. at Barca he's told to stay just on his flank and create space for Messi.

Not entirly true though, the 3 forwards tend to interchange position with each other and messi also tend to drop deep..

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Post by REWB Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:35 pm

cesc is new to the team and needs to adapt to the barcalona style, he is not used to the barca positioning and defensive duties. plus atm barca players just look tied, but dont blame it on cesc as barca are not up to their usual standard even without him playing, whats xavi doing?. he is very new to the team and you expect him to boss everything already. hope he flops and come back to arsenal anyway, we will use him the right way.


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Post by H.A. Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:35 pm

Well it has pretty much been said that the weak links are the forwards bar messi.

Sanchez & Pedro just recovered so it might help ease the situation for them.
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:37 pm

Villa starts on the wing for Spain but he still operates in the centre.

He's much more restricted at Barca, look at various heat maps for when he plays with both teams. It becomes clear that that is the case.
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:43 pm

Maybe people will actually start to realize how good Pedro is and how important he is to Barca and Spain????

Him being out for the last month has hurt and with Villa he was fine last year in his role and he is just in a slump.

I mean if people actually watch all of Barca's games instead of there CL games then they would know Villa has been set up from all angles and is just in a slump.

Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, and everyone gets Villa the ball a lot and gets him in great positions he just isn't finishing at the moment. The same exact thing happened in the second part of last year he will break out of it.

It's funny that no one said he was out of position in the first half of last year when he was finishing his chances.
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Post by Deathrow898 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:44 pm

Barca's aging back line. But I really don't know who can replace a player like Puyol I just don't know. ORRR Dani Alves who will need to be replaced in a couple of years if he leaves or if WHEN he declines with age.

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