Alessandro Del Piero

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:

Loyalty

Very. Had other offers during his career, after Calciopoli and our Serie B campaign he wen't on to have two excellent seasons. He could have given those in any other top team.

No. 10

My heart says yes.

My head says certainly not. Juventus is Juventus, bigger than any one man and always will be.


NO DISCUSSION IMO. Future generations must have the opportunity to pull on this shirt. The number 10 of Juventus has a big pedigree, and that lineage should continue.

Why this way, to say good bye.

It was said unofficially months ago this would probably be his last season. We have been expecting it.

Playing else where

He could sign for Inter tomorrow and I will worship the ground he walks on. My hero. Realistically I don't see it...

JuvenelCuore wrote:"It is really sad to see Juventus fans not understanding the value of ADP and the sympol he represents for their club."

"Offers before Clciopoli dont count, I am not talking about that, why would he want to quit a winning club to join an uknown adventure to start with?
After calciopoli I am not sure any serious offers came by. And if any serious offer came by and he really rejected that offer for the sake of the club. Is that how he is told thank you?"

Stop spewing this outright stupidity. Who is not valuing Del Piero ? How can you retire a number that was worn also by Boniperti ? Here you are saying that respect is not being shown yet retiring one player's number while not the other's who was the best before Del Piero broke the record is respect ? Boniperti is still alive.

His grandson plays for Juventus. When he was subbed on, Giampiero Boniperti cried in the stands when he saw his grandson walking onto the field. You think he does not deserve the same standard of respect ?

Shut up. Manchester United offered him a contract that was confirmed Del Piero, and this was post-Calciopoli. Any big team would have taken a man in his prime who just won the World Cup. Same with any other Juventus man who stayed such as Buffon, Nedved, Trezeguet, and even Camoranesi.

Idiotic thread.

JuvenelCuore wrote:"It is really sad to see Juventus fans not understanding the value of ADP and the sympol he represents for their club."

"Offers before Clciopoli dont count, I am not talking about that, why would he want to quit a winning club to join an uknown adventure to start with?
After calciopoli I am not sure any serious offers came by. And if any serious offer came by and he really rejected that offer for the sake of the club. Is that how he is told thank you?"

Stop spewing this outright stupidity. Who is not valuing Del Piero ? How can you retire a number that was worn also by Boniperti ? Here you are saying that respect is not being shown yet retiring one player's number while not the other's who was the best before Del Piero broke the record is respect ? Boniperti is still alive.

His grandson plays for Juventus. When he was subbed on, Giampiero Boniperti cried in the stands when he saw his grandson walking onto the field. You think he does not deserve the same standard of respect ?

Shut up. Manchester United offered him a contract that was confirmed Del Piero, and this was post-Calciopoli. Any big team would have taken a man in his prime who just won the World Cup. Same with any other Juventus man who stayed such as Buffon, Nedved, Trezeguet, and even Camoranesi.

Idiotic thread.

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:Baresi he started as 10 in both in style of play and shirt number. With the assembly of the marvelous trio of Boniperti-Sivori-Charles the 10 went to Sivori. Boniperti took no.8 and Charles no.9.

You forget Boniperti also presided over great success for us in a presidential role. A man instrumental in us signing Del Piero for starters.

He is a great, although he shone before my time and I consider Del Piero my captain, my number 10, I respect him equally. Sivori was a Italo Argentine phenomenon, the Maradonna of the 60's as he's often now known. At the time probbably the best player in the world bar Pele. Not quite the same level of status, but nontheless a incredibile player.

Platini, again before my time, but dominated european football in that era; overshadowing Maradonna's early days at Nabuli. Joined Juve aged 27, frankly had he joined earlier we'd be in a dead heat between him and Del Piero-Boniperti. Baggio on the other hand you cannot sum up with awards, trophies and stats. He was a player who gave the fans incredible joy, and passed his craft to a young ADP. As ADP, his quality transcended teams it didn't matter if you supported Inter, Man United or Dynamo Tblisi, you could be entertained by him.

Please don't compare him with Inzaghi....

And please stop trying to paint a sordid picture that we don't appreciate ADP, because the opposite is true.

Still even so, the number shouldn't be retired and I'm certain Alex wouldn't wan't it to be!

JuvenelCuore wrote:If you believe the number 10 is simply a number, you are mistaken. It is a role that a player takes and distinguishes them in most cases as the hero and leader and pride and soul of the team.

Quite frankly I could not care less about what you think.

Thanks for the warning Devi. Neal told me this forum was accepting of such language but I guess not. Things never change.

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Thanks for the warning Devi. Neal told me this forum was accepting of such language but I guess not. Things never change.

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:Boniperti wore 10 and 8. As I said John Charles wore the number 9. For many years with Giampiero alongside him. Also, Juventus won a CL with Del Piero and another with Platini in the 80's.

Anyway.

ADP is a great, not sure why you are telling me. If i'm honest he ranks right alongside Ronaldo and Zidane; for me definately superior. My favourite player bar none. But alas, has no bearing. The number should not and will not be retired.

Not because he doesn't deserve it, because the story must continue.

JuvenelCuore wrote:

@Cro: I do not take bandwagoners seriously to begin with [support Juventus now ? Guess that is what happens when Calciopoli's cycle dies down], and the fact your post was trivial and meaningless made seriousness about as strong as Inter's history.

baresi wrote:

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:Boniperti wore 10 and 8. As I said John Charles wore the number 9. For many years with Giampiero alongside him. Also, Juventus won a CL with Del Piero and another with Platini in the 80's.

Anyway.

ADP is a great, not sure why you are telling me. If i'm honest he ranks right alongside Ronaldo and Zidane; for me definately superior. My favourite player bar none. But alas, has no bearing. The number should not and will not be retired.

Not because he doesn't deserve it, because the story must continue.

No he wore 9 and maybe 10 not sure, but HIS number was 9. I cant believe I am debating this with a Juve fan.

baresi wrote:Hey Cro as a dieheart Juve fan, what do you have to say on the ADP case?

CroInter wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:

@Cro: I do not take bandwagoners seriously to begin with [support Juventus now ? Guess that is what happens when Calciopoli's cycle dies down], and the fact your post was trivial and meaningless made seriousness about as strong as Inter's history.

Is that a way to talk to ur new Italian/Juventino bro? Bad JNC

And btw. Inter's history? Trivial and meaningless? Cmon man 2nd/3rd most Seria A count, and whats more important is they have more CL then us, we only have 2, they have 3, and you know 3 is higher # then 2

JuvenelCuore wrote:

CroInter wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:

@Cro: I do not take bandwagoners seriously to begin with [support Juventus now ? Guess that is what happens when Calciopoli's cycle dies down], and the fact your post was trivial and meaningless made seriousness about as strong as Inter's history.

Is that a way to talk to ur new Italian/Juventino bro? Bad JNC

And btw. Inter's history? Trivial and meaningless? Cmon man 2nd/3rd most Seria A count, and whats more important is they have more CL then us, we only have 2, they have 3, and you know 3 is higher # then 2

You are not a Juventino. Stop this madness and go back to your team and man up.

Inter's history is trivial and meaningless because they were nothing before Calciopoli. A midtable club that Moratti sunk millions into. I am not sure who this "us" is because you and I share nothing in common.

Lord Spencer wrote:On retiring the number.

Usually, only numbers of people who have been with the club since youth are retired, and mostly people who have sons waiting in line.

Also, people who brought unprecedented success (Maradona) are also candidates.

Another thing to consider is the number itself. The numbers 9, 10, 11 are rarely retired because they are usually used as an indication of when a player steps up into a legendary position. ADP did that, and hence anyone after him will be stepping into his shoes.

The way this was declared was classless though, I hope it was according to ADP wishes.

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:............
In 150 years time, when fans our age will be cheering on their idols, possibly breaking the records of Del Piero, when any tangible link to Alex has passed, they will look at that 10 shirt and it's lineage. When those players pull it on they will feel the weight of history and rise to the very top. Infact far from disrespecting the players it will immortalize them forever.

Zealous wrote:CroInter a juve fan

xD

As for retiring the number, this is something I'll never get TBH. Players add to the number's legacy if you retire the number than that legacy is forgotten because you don't see it on the pitch any more.