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Di maria <<< Kaka !!!
Cristiano Ronaldo – 13 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
Ricardo Kaka – 10 million Euros a year – Real MadridKarim Benzema – 8.5 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
Iker Casillas – 6 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
Mesut Özil- 5 million Euros a year- Real Madrid
Lass Diarra – 4.8 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
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[color=darkred]Di maria arkred]]: 1.8 million something around , he is asking for an augmentation . He deserves it !!!
He wasn't top player when he signed but he definitively deserves more. He is the opposite of kaka . top player when he came but for many reasons not that top anymore
Ricardo Kaka – 10 million Euros a year – Real MadridKarim Benzema – 8.5 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
Iker Casillas – 6 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
Mesut Özil- 5 million Euros a year- Real Madrid
Lass Diarra – 4.8 million Euros a year – Real Madrid
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[color=darkred]Di maria arkred]]: 1.8 million something around , he is asking for an augmentation . He deserves it !!!
He wasn't top player when he signed but he definitively deserves more. He is the opposite of kaka . top player when he came but for many reasons not that top anymore
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he is earning 1.8M not 2.9M. He is asking for a raise at 3.2M which will end up being between 2.8-3M.
It's useless to look at raw numbers, players like Ronaldo or Kaka cost the club very little, because of their endorsements on which we have a 50% cut, and which we use to pay their salaries.
It's useless to look at raw numbers, players like Ronaldo or Kaka cost the club very little, because of their endorsements on which we have a 50% cut, and which we use to pay their salaries.
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Damn...Benz's agent got it done...........
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The heresy isn't his wages, but the 60m transfer fee Kaka went for.
But yeah, shirt sales, underground porn videos or whatever.
But yeah, shirt sales, underground porn videos or whatever.
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:he is earning 1.8M not 2.9M. He is asking for a raise at 3.2M which will end up being between 2.8-3M.
It's useless to look at raw numbers, players like Ronaldo or Kaka cost the club very little, because of their endorsements on which we have a 50% cut, and which we use to pay their salaries.
Sources to that claim?
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free_cat wrote:St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:he is earning 1.8M not 2.9M. He is asking for a raise at 3.2M which will end up being between 2.8-3M.
It's useless to look at raw numbers, players like Ronaldo or Kaka cost the club very little, because of their endorsements on which we have a 50% cut, and which we use to pay their salaries.
Sources to that claim?
:lol!:
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Kaka' has the highest fan base in China, one of the highest in South America and Asia. Atleast he brings a lot of money in merchandises.
in Ronaldo's and Kaka's case where their 50% image rights may cover majority salary due to their brand value. That's how things work. Ronaldo makes €14M from endorsements so the club gets around €7 M ending up paying only €4M additional. Kaka' earns around €9M
in Ronaldo's and Kaka's case where their 50% image rights may cover majority salary due to their brand value. That's how things work. Ronaldo makes €14M from endorsements so the club gets around €7 M ending up paying only €4M additional. Kaka' earns around €9M
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best player of madrid this season earns 1.8 million a year
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Di Maria should just move to another club.
Disgusting Madrid...
Disgusting Madrid...
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a list of the salaries:
has anyone got other top teams, i wanna compare them, itd be fun...i know barca overpay a little what about the others
btw altintop 3 mill
1. Cristiano 11 millions
2. Kaka 11 millions
3. Casillas 7.5 millions
4. Özil 5 millions
5. Benzema 5 millions
6. Sergio Ramos 4.8 millions
7. Xabi Alonso 4.5 millions
8. Lass 4 millions
9. Pepe 3.8 millions
10. Higuaín 3.5 millions
11. Altintop 3 millions
12. Di María 1.8 millions
13. Esteban Granero 1+ millions
14. Jose Callejón 1+ millions
15. Raphael Varane 1+ millions
has anyone got other top teams, i wanna compare them, itd be fun...i know barca overpay a little what about the others
btw altintop 3 mill
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The kind of statements that you see (for example Dutti) here make me question peoples age. Have you ever been professional active in real life?
For starters, you are responsible for negotiating your own wage or in the case with football, you have your agent helping you out. If you can't reach an agreement with your employer you start looking for a new job (in the case of football, you don't sign a new contract and give the option to the club to sell you or just play your current contract out) Secondly, you earn your wage with time and with achievements, most professionals of any kind don't get into the top earning bracket of their careers in the start with exceptions ofcourse.
For example, I'm working at an office, my current role is that of a Project Manager, but I'm only 24 years old and don't have an university degree. Thus people at my office on similar positions with the same amount of responsibility who even work less but have more experience (are older) and have more education earn almost 1/3 more than me.
I could be mad about working as hard as anybody with as much responsibility while getting less money. Or I can suck it up, work hard and trust that rewards come to those who wait. As well as I can learn to negotiate effectively when that time of the year comes around.
In the case of Kaká, he have through achivements placed himself in his earning bracket. There might be more hungry and currently better performing players in his team and certainly in the world who earn way less. But they haven't worked as many years and consistently gotten their wage raised through achievements the way he has. And they probably don't have the same marketing value which in the case of Kaká basically pays the wage back to the club.
For starters, you are responsible for negotiating your own wage or in the case with football, you have your agent helping you out. If you can't reach an agreement with your employer you start looking for a new job (in the case of football, you don't sign a new contract and give the option to the club to sell you or just play your current contract out) Secondly, you earn your wage with time and with achievements, most professionals of any kind don't get into the top earning bracket of their careers in the start with exceptions ofcourse.
For example, I'm working at an office, my current role is that of a Project Manager, but I'm only 24 years old and don't have an university degree. Thus people at my office on similar positions with the same amount of responsibility who even work less but have more experience (are older) and have more education earn almost 1/3 more than me.
I could be mad about working as hard as anybody with as much responsibility while getting less money. Or I can suck it up, work hard and trust that rewards come to those who wait. As well as I can learn to negotiate effectively when that time of the year comes around.
In the case of Kaká, he have through achivements placed himself in his earning bracket. There might be more hungry and currently better performing players in his team and certainly in the world who earn way less. But they haven't worked as many years and consistently gotten their wage raised through achievements the way he has. And they probably don't have the same marketing value which in the case of Kaká basically pays the wage back to the club.
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Cant blame him when you look at that list there.
But why sign the deal in the first place, he was always a better player than that type of money.
But why sign the deal in the first place, he was always a better player than that type of money.
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so we should pay kaka based on his past achievements and not based on how much he helps us win the big trophies which he promised....
Lass for e.g before he came to us played for portmouth not a very fancy team to play for and he gets 4 which is kinda laughable considering he has been alternating between bench and starting eleven since he came
and ozil who played for bremen got 5 straight away withotu showing his consistency...
dimaria didnt get alot because the club thought he was shite, but he has proved them otherwise and really deserves an increase...
btw guess who his agent is??? jorge friggin mendes probably the best agent around, couldnt he have negotiated a better contract, which would suit his interests as well??
i really dont undertand the wage structure in our team...i bet sahin and coentrao will make more than DiMaria and Higgy as well *sigh*
Lass for e.g before he came to us played for portmouth not a very fancy team to play for and he gets 4 which is kinda laughable considering he has been alternating between bench and starting eleven since he came
and ozil who played for bremen got 5 straight away withotu showing his consistency...
dimaria didnt get alot because the club thought he was shite, but he has proved them otherwise and really deserves an increase...
btw guess who his agent is??? jorge friggin mendes probably the best agent around, couldnt he have negotiated a better contract, which would suit his interests as well??
i really dont undertand the wage structure in our team...i bet sahin and coentrao will make more than DiMaria and Higgy as well *sigh*
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The Franchise wrote:Cant blame him when you look at that list there.
But why sign the deal in the first place, he was always a better player than that type of money.
it really shows he didnt come to madrid for the cash, he came to play....you really cant hate him for that, so so humble...
now i cant really the same about some other players not only in our team but around the world as well
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Seppuku wrote:halamadrid, are you getting a cut from Di Maria's wages?
Donno, gonna have to see with DiMaria on that issue
i might get 50 % though since he is very marketable...oh wait
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I dont think anyone goes Madrid just for the money, or even primarily, they are too strong a team with too great a history for players to simply think money first.
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halamadrid2 wrote:so we should pay kaka based on his past achievements and not based on how much he helps us win the big trophies which he promised....
Lass for e.g before he came to us played for portmouth not a very fancy team to play for and he gets 4 which is kinda laughable considering he has been alternating between bench and starting eleven since he came
and ozil who played for bremen got 5 straight away withotu showing his consistency...
dimaria didnt get alot because the club thought he was shite, but he has proved them otherwise and really deserves an increase...
btw guess who his agent is??? jorge friggin mendes probably the best agent around, couldnt he have negotiated a better contract, which would suit his interests as well??
i really dont undertand the wage structure in our team...i bet sahin and coentrao will make more than DiMaria and Higgy as well *sigh*
Welcome to real life, you'll see it works like this everywhere. The 55 y/o colleague of mine sitting 5 meters away who come to the office at 9 and go home 16, while I work from 8 to 19 is earning double my wage. Based on past achievements and a steady raise in his wage over 3 decades. It's not fair, but it's life. Someday I'll be that old man and some young fart will be thinking the same thing about me.
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But in your example, you said guys are more qualified than you. Kaka is not more qualified than Di Maria.
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The Franchise wrote:I dont think anyone goes Madrid just for the money, or even primarily, they are too strong a team with too great a history for players to simply think money first.
not only in our team, mancini critisized bridge for only going to city for the cash.....ntm coentrao knew he wouldnt be guaranteed a starting place in our team..it would be interesting to see how much he gets
what about altinwhat what has he done in Bayern to warrant 3 mill in our team, doing the washing??
i am sure players think 1) money 2) team 3) playing time ....in exactly that order nowadays, which also explains why Pozo chose Man City over spanish teams or Arsneal(who are famous for moulding you talent)
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Yeah, of course many players go to other places for money. I dont think Madrid is one of them though.
Coentrao knew he might not start, but he probably thought if your paying 30m for him and half of Europe wanted him, you would use him well. So basically it was "role player for Madrid > starter at Benfica".
I dont agree with that order to be honest, ever player is different.
For some players yes, but for most players not at all.
Who is Pozo?
Coentrao knew he might not start, but he probably thought if your paying 30m for him and half of Europe wanted him, you would use him well. So basically it was "role player for Madrid > starter at Benfica".
I dont agree with that order to be honest, ever player is different.
For some players yes, but for most players not at all.
Who is Pozo?
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I think they have got it wrong, you're supposed to pay more to the better players.halamadrid2 wrote:a list of the salaries:1. Cristiano 11 millions
2. Kaka 11 millions
3. Casillas 7.5 millions
4. Özil 5 millions
5. Benzema 5 millions
6. Sergio Ramos 4.8 millions
7. Xabi Alonso 4.5 millions
8. Lass 4 millions
9. Pepe 3.8 millions
10. Higuaín 3.5 millions
11. Altintop 3 millions
12. Di María 1.8 millions
13. Esteban Granero 1+ millions
14. Jose Callejón 1+ millions
15. Raphael Varane 1+ millions
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The Franchise wrote:But in your example, you said guys are more qualified than you. Kaka is not more qualified than Di Maria.
On paper he's more qualified, just as Kaká is compared to Di Maria, more accolades, more achievements, more experience. But when it comes to producing for the company he's doing the bare minimum while I'm working my ass off and doing a damn fine job which I also get credit for. Still I can't go to management and say "look at his wage and mine, I want the same I've done this and that..." because it doesn't work that way.
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