haah the real question should be why players choose to be a bench player for madrid and barca instead of starting for all other big clubs?

Certainly wage isnt the only answer.

This is a problem of other top teams being less attractive than real and barca,blame those teams not real and barca.Ask them why they cant attract players.

And im pretty sure this guy will be supporter of a series A club

When pastores and cricitos are leaving for supposed to be better leagues and talent pool is fading year after year i know how they feel.

Higuain and Benz are the only true striker in our club how can having 2 forwards be destroying football??? A world class club like Real Madrid pushing for a 3 titles every year and you want us to go with just Higuain?


We bought Ozil because we needed someone who can actually go 3 games without tearing a knee ligament like Kaka ffs. If Ozil had been playing shit and on the bench fair enough, but he is now the best young playmaker in the world. Also One of Hazard/Neymar will replace Di Maria who I don't want in the starting line up anyway.


p.s Nick

Hoilette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obertan

Is it the clubs or the money hungry players who have no loyalty?

Divine Intervention wrote:Both teams are talent graveyards. Why does a team need Kaka and Oezil? Benzema and Higuain?
Arsenal was such a fun team to watch but no, Cesc had to go the Catalan road! You could make 5-6 top teams with the players they have in other clubs which in return have meant lots of competition.
What to watch out in Champion's league for? Whether one of Real or Barca wins the cup again?
Manchester City tops them all. A superlative talent graveyard with nothing to show for!

ARE U SERIOUSLY comparing Barca spending with team slike Real Madrid & Man City WTF!!!!

Villa (40M) - Messi (Academy) - Pedro (Academy)

Iniesta (Academy) - Busquets (Academy) - Xavi (Academy)

Abidal (9M) - Puyol (Academy) - Pique (Academy) - Alves (29+6M)

Valdes (Academy)

Bench: Pinto (0.5M), Fontas (Academy), Mascherano (19M), Adriano (9M), Maxwell (4.5M), Fabregas (29M), Afellay (3M), Kieta (14M), Thiago (Academy), Sanchez (26M)

`Barca Current Team cost: 189 M
` Starting line-up: 84M
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`Compared them to Real Madrid, Their current players cost them 460.5 M
` Starting line-up: 278M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Real_Madrid_C.F._season

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Than comes MAN CITY!!!

They spent more than 400M on their current team!!

So are u seriously comparing! LoOoOoOoOoOoL

LOL Pick one of the big teams and then you'll be happy your team is spending!! Lots of gloryhunters do it!! Be loyal to your team no matter the size, wealth, or prestige and be a true fan, but you have to except that your team might not win the big titles! I have been doing it since day one and don't see it any other way, born a Wisla Krakow fan and will die one!!

Khaledbarca wrote:

Divine Intervention wrote:Both teams are talent graveyards. Why does a team need Kaka and Oezil? Benzema and Higuain?
Arsenal was such a fun team to watch but no, Cesc had to go the Catalan road! You could make 5-6 top teams with the players they have in other clubs which in return have meant lots of competition.
What to watch out in Champion's league for? Whether one of Real or Barca wins the cup again?
Manchester City tops them all. A superlative talent graveyard with nothing to show for!

ARE U SERIOUSLY comparing Barca spending with team slike Real Madrid & Man City WTF!!!!

Villa (40M) - Messi (Academy) - Pedro (Academy)

Iniesta (Academy) - Busquets (Academy) - Xavi (Academy)

Abidal (9M) - Puyol (Academy) - Pique (Academy) - Alves (29+6M)

Valdes (Academy)

Bench: Pinto (0.5M), Fontas (Academy), Mascherano (19M), Adriano (9M), Maxwell (4.5M), Fabregas (29M), Afellay (3M), Kieta (14M), Thiago (Academy), Sanchez (26M)

`Barca Current Team cost: 189 M
` Starting line-up: 84M
-----------

`Compared them to Real Madrid, Their current players cost them 460.5 M
` Starting line-up: 278M


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Than comes MAN CITY!!!

They spent more than 400M on their current team!!

So are u seriously comparing! LoOoOoOoOoOoL

I can't post links for some reason. Google yourself:

European Parliament expected to support la liga collective tv deal

Most of the TV money goes to both elite teams. What about the rest of la liga? I've never seen a more poor managed league than the gloryfied Scottish league! What do they expect in teh long run? If the other clubs go bankrupt will the play against their B teams? Medieval situation if you ask me. Poor chaps on the one hand and stinky rich snobs on the other. A revolution in unavoidable but I think the league will be ruined until something happens.
They shouldn't be allowed to participate in European championships alltogether. Collecting all of the TV money is cheating of highest order.

This is one of the worst posts i've ever seen. First of all pretty much 60-70% of the players on Barca's squad are from there youth academy including 3 of the top 5 players in the world. Why would someone choose to slam them for that?

Second, the players they did buy have ALL played big minutes this year and with the injuries we have had we needed everyone of the players we purchased.

Third, we are competing for a ton of different trophies this year and have to play a insane amount of games with little to no offseason and we have some of the worst depth of any elite team in Europe before we bought Sanchez and Cesc so why again are you complaining? We are playing midfielders in defense FFS.

As for Madrid (this is not a shot at Madrid) what are they dominating? How are they making europe less competitive? If anything they have helped teams by selling players like Wesley to Inter for about half price, the same with Robben to Bayern and other really good players for below market value, not to mention they ALWAYS pay top price for the players they purchase which helps the teams looking to sell. IT's not like they are stealing these players from other teams, most of the times the teams are more then willing to cash in on there players and would prefer to sell to Madrid because they will pay what is asked.

Second for Madrid, they loan out a insane amount of really good youth talent to other teams in La Liga which helps these teams stay up and also get a player they could never have had in the first place for very cheap, how is that ruining La Liga? If anything it's a huge help for these teams who are financially strapped and can't buy players that talented.

You sir don't have a clue what you are talking about. I hope this was just a bad attempt at Trolling.

The TV deal has to be sorted out though.

Hmmm.... welcome back Wiggles?

dnmac4 wrote:This is one of the worst posts i've ever seen. First of all pretty much 60-70% of the players on Barca's squad are from there youth academy including 3 of the top 5 players in the world. Why would someone choose to slam them for that?

Second, the players they did buy have ALL played big minutes this year and with the injuries we have had we needed everyone of the players we purchased.

Third, we are competing for a ton of different trophies this year and have to play a insane amount of games with little to no offseason and we have some of the worst depth of any elite team in Europe before we bought Sanchez and Cesc so why again are you complaining? We are playing midfielders in defense FFS.

As for Madrid (this is not a shot at Madrid) what are they dominating? How are they making europe less competitive? If anything they have helped teams by selling players like Wesley to Inter for about half price, the same with Robben to Bayern and other really good players for below market value, not to mention they ALWAYS pay top price for the players they purchase which helps the teams looking to sell. IT's not like they are stealing these players from other teams, most of the times the teams are more then willing to cash in on there players and would prefer to sell to Madrid because they will pay what is asked.

Second for Madrid, they loan out a insane amount of really good youth talent to other teams in La Liga which helps these teams stay up and also get a player they could never have had in the first place for very cheap, how is that ruining La Liga? If anything it's a huge help for these teams who are financially strapped and can't buy players that talented.

You sir don't have a clue what you are talking about. I hope this was just a bad attempt at Trolling.

Make an online IQ test. Come back with the result. If the score is anything higher than 90 I'll bother to write an answer to your post.

Magricos wrote: The TV deal has to be sorted out though.

Which team do you support?

Divine Intervention wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:This is one of the worst posts i've ever seen. First of all pretty much 60-70% of the players on Barca's squad are from there youth academy including 3 of the top 5 players in the world. Why would someone choose to slam them for that?

Second, the players they did buy have ALL played big minutes this year and with the injuries we have had we needed everyone of the players we purchased.

Third, we are competing for a ton of different trophies this year and have to play a insane amount of games with little to no offseason and we have some of the worst depth of any elite team in Europe before we bought Sanchez and Cesc so why again are you complaining? We are playing midfielders in defense FFS.

As for Madrid (this is not a shot at Madrid) what are they dominating? How are they making europe less competitive? If anything they have helped teams by selling players like Wesley to Inter for about half price, the same with Robben to Bayern and other really good players for below market value, not to mention they ALWAYS pay top price for the players they purchase which helps the teams looking to sell. IT's not like they are stealing these players from other teams, most of the times the teams are more then willing to cash in on there players and would prefer to sell to Madrid because they will pay what is asked.

Second for Madrid, they loan out a insane amount of really good youth talent to other teams in La Liga which helps these teams stay up and also get a player they could never have had in the first place for very cheap, how is that ruining La Liga? If anything it's a huge help for these teams who are financially strapped and can't buy players that talented.

You sir don't have a clue what you are talking about. I hope this was just a bad attempt at Trolling.

Make an online IQ test. Come back with the result. If the score is anything higher than 90 I'll bother to write an answer to your post.

Divine Intervention wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:This is one of the worst posts i've ever seen. First of all pretty much 60-70% of the players on Barca's squad are from there youth academy including 3 of the top 5 players in the world. Why would someone choose to slam them for that?

Second, the players they did buy have ALL played big minutes this year and with the injuries we have had we needed everyone of the players we purchased.

Third, we are competing for a ton of different trophies this year and have to play a insane amount of games with little to no offseason and we have some of the worst depth of any elite team in Europe before we bought Sanchez and Cesc so why again are you complaining? We are playing midfielders in defense FFS.

As for Madrid (this is not a shot at Madrid) what are they dominating? How are they making europe less competitive? If anything they have helped teams by selling players like Wesley to Inter for about half price, the same with Robben to Bayern and other really good players for below market value, not to mention they ALWAYS pay top price for the players they purchase which helps the teams looking to sell. IT's not like they are stealing these players from other teams, most of the times the teams are more then willing to cash in on there players and would prefer to sell to Madrid because they will pay what is asked.

Second for Madrid, they loan out a insane amount of really good youth talent to other teams in La Liga which helps these teams stay up and also get a player they could never have had in the first place for very cheap, how is that ruining La Liga? If anything it's a huge help for these teams who are financially strapped and can't buy players that talented.

You sir don't have a clue what you are talking about. I hope this was just a bad attempt at Trolling.

Make an online IQ test. Come back with the result. If the score is anything higher than 90 I'll bother to write an answer to your post.

OK, so it was a bad attempt at trolling. I just wanted to make sure.

Khaledbarca wrote:

Divine Intervention wrote:Both teams are talent graveyards. Why does a team need Kaka and Oezil? Benzema and Higuain?
Arsenal was such a fun team to watch but no, Cesc had to go the Catalan road! You could make 5-6 top teams with the players they have in other clubs which in return have meant lots of competition.
What to watch out in Champion's league for? Whether one of Real or Barca wins the cup again?
Manchester City tops them all. A superlative talent graveyard with nothing to show for!

ARE U SERIOUSLY comparing Barca spending with team slike Real Madrid & Man City WTF!!!!

Villa (40M) - Messi (Academy) - Pedro (Academy)

Iniesta (Academy) - Busquets (Academy) - Xavi (Academy)

Abidal (9M) - Puyol (Academy) - Pique (Academy) - Alves (29+6M)

Valdes (Academy)

Bench: Pinto (0.5M), Fontas (Academy), Mascherano (19M), Adriano (9M), Maxwell (4.5M), Fabregas (29M), Afellay (3M), Kieta (14M), Thiago (Academy), Sanchez (26M)

`Barca Current Team cost: 189 M
` Starting line-up: 84M
-----------

`Compared them to Real Madrid, Their current players cost them 460.5 M
` Starting line-up: 278M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Real_Madrid_C.F._season

------------

Than comes MAN CITY!!!

They spent more than 400M on their current team!!

So are u seriously comparing! LoOoOoOoOoOoL

while madrid give the bought players their fair share of chances, barca just ship them out again without even letting them play in preseason ffs(selective memory huh??)

460.5 M = 1 trashed trophy

Madrid, mas cantera y menos cartera

Deal with it.

Divine Intervention wrote:

Magricos wrote: The TV deal has to be sorted out though.

Which team do you support?

RM