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Post by Catracho Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:38 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Arq tell it to me seriously here, I assume you watch most games.......

Is Ander not lost behind all this Llorente,Munain,Javi Martinez hype, because to me at least, everytime I watch Atletico....he is the person who is setting the pass and move tone and at the centre of everything.

Would it be fair to say he is at least as important (or for me more) as those outlined above?

Madrid??? :lol!:

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Post by S Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:40 pm

I knew Deschamps and Lizarazu were Basque.

Was it one of the reasons why Deschamps got Azipilicueta(spell check) from Osasuna ?
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:40 pm

Edited :coffee:
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Post by Doc Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:43 pm

Speaking of Athletic, a director from Osasuna had this to say to the Athletic president during the match at Pamplona:

"Don't worry, the ball boys are part of the club youth. You can steal them like u always do."
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Post by Zealous Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:07 pm

Oh Snap.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:25 pm

Doc wrote:Speaking of Athletic, a director from Osasuna had this to say to the Athletic president during the match at Pamplona:

"Don't worry, the ball boys are part of the club youth. You can steal them like u always do."

ooooooohhhhhhh
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:26 pm

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And Lizarazu is of Basque origin. Thats a pure Basque name.

Deschamp and Griezzmann are pure Basque descent as well. Deschamp played for our selekzioa while Griezmann is still in the deciding point I believe.

Casillas is also of pure Basque descent as his parents moved from Bilbao to the Mostolles in Madrid. He also spent a lot of his childhood in Bilbao.

His name (and his brothers) is also pure Basque, Pele and Maradona are also of Basque Descent.


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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:27 pm

LOL
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Post by guest7 Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:03 pm

Fergie re Athletic: It was an outstanding performance. They had highest distance run stats of opposition team at Old Trafford in 10 years.
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Post by Doc Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:15 pm

Thought Maradona had Italian ancestry?
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Post by S Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Doc has been :vagi:
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Post by Doc Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:18 pm

Where is Wiggles when you need him...
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:22 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Arq tell it to me seriously here, I assume you watch most games.......

Is Ander not lost behind all this Llorente,Munain,Javi Martinez hype, because to me at least, everytime I watch Athletic....he is the person who is setting the pass and move tone and at the centre of everything.

Would it be fair to say he is at least as important (or for me more) as those outlined above?
Le Samourai wrote:Arq tell it to me seriously here, I assume you watch most games.......

Is Ander not lost behind all this Llorente,Munain,Javi Martinez hype, because to me at least, everytime I watch Athletic....he is the person who is setting the pass and move tone and at the centre of everything.

Would it be fair to say he is at least as important (or for me more) as those outlined above?


Excellent observation Josh.

Ander to me has been immensely underrated and especially for his exploits in the U-21 World Cup.

For Bilbao, he too is overlooked as admittedly they don't look as good without them.

He provides the front element of composure and vision.


Out of those named, I'd say he would be more important than Muniain and maybe Javi since Bilbao have an solid mid and back.

But I admire your appreciation and desire to bring him into the GL map since he is overlooked now.

Doc wrote:Speaking of Athletic, a director from Osasuna had this to say to the Athletic president during the match at Pamplona:

"Don't worry, the ball boys are part of the club youth. You can steal them like u always do."


This quote spurns from how Bilbao are known to woe some of the Navarrese youth as Javi is just one example.

Sadly for Osasuna maybe if they actually stuck to their basque promise of utilizing their fine youth, then I would agree as otherwise he should pipe down.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:27 pm

I knew Deschamps and Lizarazu were Basque.

Was it one of the reasons why Deschamps got Azipilicueta(spell check) from Osasuna ?

I honestly don't know too much about this Surag. Sorry.

But I can say it may be one of the factors considering Deschamps speaks highly of the Basque footballing art as Azpi embodies that in his fullback position.

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Arquitecto wrote:
And Lizarazu is of Basque origin. Thats a pure Basque name.

Deschamp and Griezzmann are pure Basque descent as well. Deschamp played for our selekzioa while Griezmann is still in the deciding point I believe.

Casillas is also of pure Basque descent as his parents moved from Bilbao to the Mostolles in Madrid. He also spent a lot of his childhood in Bilbao.

His name (and his brothers) is also pure Basque, Pele and Maradona are also of Basque Descent.


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LMAO mole :bow:

I only was merely naming those of the heritage. Razz


Thought Maradona had Italian ancestry?

Most of the Argentines of today and yesteryear were mostly Italian descent.

Maradona though, is of Mestizo descent.

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Post by Le Samourai Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:29 pm

Maradona though, is of Mestizo descent.
:bow:

That is Indian + Spanish right.....because if so...... :coffee:


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Post by Lord Hades Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:30 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Maradona though, is of Mestizo descent. :bow:

That is Indian + Spanish right.....because if so...... :coffee:

maradona- indian descent?

and i thought michael chopra and robin dutt were the only losers ..
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Post by Catracho Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:04 pm

Indian as in Natives of their countries.. not India lol.
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:16 pm

I have some Taino in there....like many Andalusians.... :coffee:
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Post by Catracho Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Le Samourai wrote:I have some Taino in there....like many Andalusians.... :coffee:

not Arawak?? smoking
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:29 pm

The Taínos were pre-Columbian inhabitants of the Bahamas, Greater Antilles, and the northern Lesser Antilles. It is thought that the seafaring Taínos are relatives of the Arawak people of South America.[1] The Taíno language is a member of the Arawakan language family, which ranges from South America across the Caribbean.

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:55 am

Aztec >all :coffee: jk

Llorente will play!
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Post by Babun Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:01 pm

Time to school the Mancs again. I had to cool down their expectations in redcafe Very Happy
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:33 am

http://www.marca.com/2012/03/15/futbol/equipos/athletic/1331804366.html

Ferguson: "we've looked at the stats and we've proved that Bilbao are the team that has ran the most at Old Trafford in the last 10 years"

"It amazes me that Athletic trained for 3 hours in 2 sessions before the match, and then played like that"

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http://www.marca.com/2012/03/15/futbol/europa_league/1331844882.html

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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:32 am

Wow @ the Basque history? I always thought it was just one of the parts in Spain, didnt know its so big and has so many big name descents? Razz

And Bilbao played brilliantly in both legs. The amount of training they do if its true is amazing, they must train like Barca and Real, hard and long and consistent, no wonder they can play like that on the pitch!
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Post by billy_gr Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:42 am

Basques :bow:
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Post by Lord Hades Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:43 am

i will marry a basque girl i think, we will have wonderful indo- basque kids

they l inherit basque phsyique and indian mind = perfect child

one of them will be the goat in football, the other in cricket


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