Re: Mesut Ozil discussion

by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:49 pm

Agreed, it comes down to his personal ambition and how much he wants to boss the team. If he shows more willingness to come get the ball and boss things around, his game will improve, and his status as well.

That's precisely what Sahin does, he commands the football with presence and positioning.

by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:53 pm

Speed never cut it for me.

This is football, not track and field. It is needed, but if it is just wasted and used as a crutch like Ronaldo, it is not worth mentioning. Del Piero has a lack of speed but has technique, and that is why Ronaldo will not be playing at 37.

by the xcx Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:04 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Speed never cut it for me.

This is football, not track and field. It is needed, but if it is just wasted and used as a crutch like Ronaldo, it is not worth mentioning. Del Piero has a lack of speed but has technique, and that is why Ronaldo will not be playing at 37.

Wrong thread arent you? Right back section is that way:

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by EarlyPrototype Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:05 pm

Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

by H.A. Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:51 pm

babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:Just look at my sig

You stole my idea I'll still make one

LOL, I didn't "steal" anything

I still didn't find good gif's, I'm also not bothered to make one myself from a vid, so I made something with what I had
Your execution is good but I don't like the first part, he should have the troll face all the time, like in my sig
Could you find a vid, where he schools Keita? I'll make a trollface gif out of it

I did both but I didn't know which one to choose from

As for the vid wait till some Ozil vs barca videos show up if they haven't already
Nice, make the troll head smaller and put the noob head on Valdes Then the big troll face in the second part= perfect
Valdes decided to go right, then he scored left

Well check it out know lol Very Happy

Anyway in the vids I found there was this nice shot when ozil tried to dribble past two players, the ball hit abidals face and returned to him

by FennecFox7 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:00 pm

LOL at ronaldo having worse technique. You guys are on some K2. Ronaldo kicks and runs because hes fast as hell. If I had his speed I would do the same. FFS he runs a 40 in 4.22

Ozil is brilliant technique wise, but ronaldo is still much better. I guess because di maria kicks and runs he has bad technique now? Very Happy

Or roberto carlos kicks and runs, he has bad technique? Laughing

by Sabra1 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:02 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil Wink

by guest7 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:04 pm

No speed is the worst thing for defenders, if they get past one one time you are screwed, cant recover the ball at all, it's just very hard unless you are as fast

by FennecFox7 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:09 pm

Sabra1 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil

Ozil is very fast himself, and it helps him quite a bit.

Speed wise ronaldo is on another planet though lol

by Sabra1 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:35 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil
Ozil is very fast himself, and it helps him quite a bit.

Speed wise ronaldo is on another planet though lol

Fastest player right now is Ronaldo, no doubt.

by Pedram Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:43 pm

Speed without Dribbling is nothing.

by The Madrid One Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:52 pm

cant believe you guys have made a speed vs technique war in that sense.

both are very important but if you dont have substance, or dont know what to do with the ball or how to do it right then speed is useless.

apples and oranges in a sense, although if you look over the course in history those who have been able to implement their game using their brains over their speed and physicality are those who go down as the best and last long.

ala zidane,maldini.

by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:57 pm

Sabra1 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil
Ozil is very fast himself, and it helps him quite a bit.

Speed wise ronaldo is on another planet though lol

Fastest player right now is Ronaldo, no doubt.

No doubt ?

Walcott, Lennon > Ronaldo.

by Sabra1 Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:06 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil
Ozil is very fast himself, and it helps him quite a bit.

Speed wise ronaldo is on another planet though lol

Fastest player right now is Ronaldo, no doubt.

No doubt ?

Walcott, Lennon > Ronaldo.

That's not what a German study said..

by Zees Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:54 am

[quote="Sabra1"]

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:
Sabra1 wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Actually speed is the biggest fear of defenders.

Hmm, but it fades away with age. And if speed was the biggest threat, Odonkor would be terrorising opposition defenders for Germany, not Ozil
Ozil is very fast himself, and it helps him quite a bit.

Speed wise ronaldo is on another planet though lol

Fastest player right now is Ronaldo, no doubt.

No doubt ?

Walcott, Lennon > Ronaldo.

my brain says ronaldo is faster Suspect

by Babun Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:49 pm

H.A. wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
H.A. wrote:Just look at my sig

You stole my idea I'll still make one

LOL, I didn't "steal" anything

I still didn't find good gif's, I'm also not bothered to make one myself from a vid, so I made something with what I had
Your execution is good but I don't like the first part, he should have the troll face all the time, like in my sig
Could you find a vid, where he schools Keita? I'll make a trollface gif out of it

I did both but I didn't know which one to choose from

As for the vid wait till some Ozil vs barca videos show up if they haven't already
Nice, make the troll head smaller and put the noob head on Valdes Then the big troll face in the second part= perfect
Valdes decided to go right, then he scored left

Well check it out know lol

Anyway in the vids I found there was this nice shot when ozil tried to dribble past two players, the ball hit abidals face and returned to him

You learned fast, son :lol!:

by hrealmadrid Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:17 pm

MESUT IS THE MAN. Good to see him fired up, good to see him getting his blood pumping, good to see him fighting for his colors, OUR colors. This guy can captain the team one day

by Jack Daniels Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:20 pm

Actually he was not fighting for our colors.

Instead, He was fighting for his manhood. Imagine getting slapped by a midget? lmao

by the xcx Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:25 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:Actually he was not fighting for our colors.

Instead, He was fighting for his manhood. Imagine getting slapped by a midget? lmao

that would be an ultimate humiliation.
/Sarcasm

by Zealous Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:27 pm

His first ever red card.

Undeserved IMO.

by shaven Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:39 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:Actually he was not fighting for our colors.

Instead, He was fighting for his manhood. Imagine getting slapped by a midget? lmao

agreed, the pushing trigger for him to burst out

by shaven Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:46 pm

by Babun Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:52 pm

shaven wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:Actually he was not fighting for our colors.

Instead, He was fighting for his manhood. Imagine getting slapped by a midget? lmao

agreed, the pushing trigger for him to burst out

He went in to prevent a fight and got caught up in it Very Happy

In contrast, Kaka was just watching far away from the scene Very Happy