Re: Is Fabregas already a better player since rejoining barca?

by El Chelsea Fuerte Sat 03 Sep 2011, 17:15

Giggity5313 wrote:The franchise: fabregas is not worth more then 30million

Remember Barcelona talking about how his price had dropped, this summer? Laughing

by Le Samourai Sat 03 Sep 2011, 17:32

Nope he just has a different more free role , where he can do tangible impact stuff rather than be a workhorse plus playmaker.

by cyberman Sat 03 Sep 2011, 19:26

The yes people are clueless ffs

After downgrading Cesc for so long.. WE DONT NEED HIM!! KEEP HIM ARSENAL!! and now seeing he could be a main player for them..they wont admit they were wrong. Hes magically improved..

after 1 official start

jesus lord almighty

by barca 2011 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 20:11

Lex wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:Plus he has won a WC
Oh so that's the story you're going for now, is it? I heard a different beat a few months ago before he moved to Circuselona

That was directed to the guy who called cesc a "failure". A wc is a bit of an accomplishment is it not?

by tsgooner1 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 20:30

Khaledbarca wrote:Fabregas to be the Best Midfielder in the World with Thiago in 2 years!
heard it here first!

No actually we arsenal fans said that cesc fabregas will be the best midfielder in the world 3 years ago. So no, heard it "here" (arsenal) first.

by DeviAngel Sat 03 Sep 2011, 20:49

Fabregas was always the same player if he wasn't that good Barca would have never gotten him Very Happy

by 7amood11 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 20:53

I think the OP's really pushing it here. You can't tell if Fabregas improved over a few weeks... He'll improve over time, but right now, he's pretty much the same.

by Lex Sat 03 Sep 2011, 21:04

I bet Vagi cried when he saw him walk off the plane

by Babun Sat 03 Sep 2011, 22:51

Why do people respond to such a brainless thread? Very Happy

No, he still didn't learn the art of diving..............I mean 'modern' tiki taka :lol!:

by teamanarchy Sat 03 Sep 2011, 22:56

Is Ronaldo a better player since joining madrid?
He scored more goals last season than he ever did at united...

by BarrileteCosmico Sat 03 Sep 2011, 22:57

He's been injury free for 5 days. Yes.

Okay, now I'll tell you what I really think : D. Fabregas has been good but nowhere near as influential as he is for Arsenal. The thread's premise is both incredibly premature and just not true. He's had far better games for Arsenal than Barca

by REWB Sat 03 Sep 2011, 23:02

teamanarchy wrote:Is Ronaldo a better player since joining madrid?
He scored more goals last season than he ever did at united...

thats because he is playing in an easier league? Very Happy

if anything he might have become worse since joining madrid Very Happy

by Babun Sat 03 Sep 2011, 23:10

BarrileteCosmico wrote:He's been injury free for 5 days. Yes.

Alf, he might solve Spain's dullness in final 3rd at international level if the play him in Messi role for them Very Happy

You need Iniesta as a 10 in Messi role and Silva deeper ,problem solved Very Happy

by Dnmac4 Sat 03 Sep 2011, 23:36

I said the whole time we should buy Cesc just for the fact that at 30 Mill it was the deal of the century and if anyone else were buying him he would be sold for over 50 mill.

Arsenal were just in a bad position only being able to negotiate with one team.

I argued with all my fellow Barca fans and yes a lot were questioning how much he was worth but not because of his skill but because they thought we didn't need him so why pay the money for him. Some even bought the Bulls*** Rosell was shoveling that were some kind of poor club with no money which is the biggest farce ever, he just uses every chance he's in front of a microphone to bash Lapota.

As for Cesc playing better right now, it's too early to tell but if you know anything about sports competition brings out the best in players. He knows now if he runs into a bad patch of form he will get pulled which wouldn't happen at Arsenal and that will drive him to be the best player he can possibly be, there is no arguing that.

by JAY-Z Sun 04 Sep 2011, 01:10

His team-mates make his gamme way better .. Razz

by zizzle Sun 04 Sep 2011, 01:13

this thread proves that Barca makes its players LOOK better than they're really are :coffee:

by BarrileteCosmico Sun 04 Sep 2011, 01:25

zizzle wrote:this thread proves that Barca makes its players LOOK better than they're really are

The definition of a team is a group of people that can achieve more together than individually. Barca is simply the best team in the world in this respect. It doesn't make bad players seem good - it maximizes the attributes of each player. Everyone is playing close to their potential. Key difference, easy to miss.

by Albiceleste Sun 04 Sep 2011, 02:51

zizzle wrote:this thread proves that Barca makes its players LOOK better than they're really are

See: Ibrahimovic, Chygrynsky, David Villa, Hleb

by zizzle Sun 04 Sep 2011, 02:56

Lionel Messi wrote:
zizzle wrote:this thread proves that Barca makes its players LOOK better than they're really are

See: Ibrahimovic, Chygrynsky, David Villa, Hleb

these players did not have the barca DNA :coffee:

by zizzle Sun 04 Sep 2011, 02:58

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
zizzle wrote:this thread proves that Barca makes its players LOOK better than they're really are

The definition of a team is a group of people that can achieve more together than individually. Barca is simply the best team in the world in this respect. It doesn't make bad players seem good - it maximizes the attributes of each player. Everyone is playing close to their potential. Key difference, easy to miss.

eventhough i was just trolling i can only say that i tottaly agree

by The Franchise Sun 04 Sep 2011, 04:08

Terrible topic, the only thing worse is the pathetic yet typical responses from the vast majority.

No Barca fan has flipped flopped on the issue at all.

I dont know, perhaps people think that all Barca fans have one voice here nd one mind, therefore if one person says something negative about Cesc before the transfer (like myself) yet another fan says something positive after it, somehow they are flip floppers

Its actually a check for some Madrid fans to be saying this too...when Cristiano was at Man Utd, I still remember tons of Madrid fans calling him all the names under the sun..now, he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

And for the record, everything I said before the transfer I keep to..unlike many of you, I dont change my mind because a player joined my club.

by The Franchise Sun 04 Sep 2011, 04:09

Giggity5313 wrote:The franchise: fabregas is not worth more then 30million

If your going to quote me, please do it correctly.

by alexjanosik Sun 04 Sep 2011, 05:35

No he is not a better player.
He is still only the 4th best midfielder(pretty soon might be 5th best if Thiago has anything to say about it and pep gives him the chance) on the team and will still warm the bench for the big games.
A couple of tap ins dont make him a better player than he was at Arsenal.

by Red Alert Sun 04 Sep 2011, 06:03

alexjanosik wrote:No he is not a better player.
He is still only the 4th best midfielder(pretty soon might be 5th best if Thiago has anything to say about it and pep gives him the chance) on the team and will still warm the bench for the big games.
A couple of tap ins dont make him a better player than he was at Arsenal.

Not a fan alex?

by FennecFox7 Sun 04 Sep 2011, 06:04

The Franchise wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:The franchise: fabregas is not worth more then 30million

If your going to quote me, please do it correctly.

You did say that scratch

by The Franchise Sun 04 Sep 2011, 06:07

No, I dont believe I did.

I said he isnt worth 40m, I said I wouldnt pay 35m for him (and then later said that is about fair value for him overall)....and also put it in context..I said both of those things meaning, if I was Barca I wouldnt pay that for him.

You are trying to make it sound like I said he isnt good enough to be deemed worth 30m to anyone. That obviously wasnt the case.

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