Aquilani: Juventus should Learn from Galliani

Ganso wrote:This is now or never for aquilani,i hope he takes this opportunity well,because we need him.

He'll do well for Milan I'm sure, it is a different situation.

Marotta managed perfect its GALLIANI the one who made mistake by letting PIRLO out;;;

AQUILANI is not even 40% effective like PIRLO is;;;;

galliani made a great decision by letting pirlo go,we wanted to give him a 1 year contract but he wanted an extension for more than 1 year,but hes too old now,it was time to get rid of him.He didnt fit our system in top of that,we need dynamic midfielders.

Ganso wrote:galliani made a great decision by letting pirlo go,we wanted to give him a 1 year contract but he wanted an extension for more than 1 year,but hes too old now,it was time to get rid of him.He didnt fit our system in top of that,we need dynamic midfielders.

You've given older players longer contracts but you're right I don't really blame him

king_alex10 wrote:

Marotta himself offered 6m like a month ago and we got rejected. Liverpool are desperate to get rid of him and we lost interest so they are doing business with Milan.

Aquilani is the definition of soft and average, he is a downgrade at milan.

False, Marotta never intended or tried to offer 6m for Aquilani. He only tried to get him for 9m, but still refused it as Liverpool wanted 12m. As the future goes on, he went for sale for 6m according to his agent. If Liverpool as you say were desperate to get rid of him they would of sold us Aquilani regardless what happened before. The point is, Marotta never offered, he instead turned his sights on Poli in which failed because Sampdoria were asking for too much.

Aquilani is not the definiton of soft and average, in this case I might say the same about Pirlo as he is soft as a player. Average? Well, if look you back in his Roma days, you'd maybe change your views on him as he was great. He is a Class player, with great talent. Not to mention was one of our best since December, after that he flopped as the whole squad did. Downgrade for Milan? Agreed, but it does not mean it was a bad move.

Luca wrote:Anyone with any knowledge of the market shouldn't be agreeing about the Aquilani case.

Anyone with knowledge with the market, read above, that justifies the knowledge I have with the current market

Juventude wrote:Anyone with knowledge of the market and the Juventus squad shouldn't care about this transfer. Aquilani doesn't fit with this team and he wasn't going to sit on the bench as Pirlo/Marchisio/Vidal's substitution. Juve fans need to get over it.

Oh he dosen't fit on the team eh? Who knew that the Regista the most important factor in Conte's style of play was not important for the squad. Aquilani would of been important, no matter we need a vice in which this case made him fit perfectly in the squad. You think Vidal can be a Regista? Marchisio? Pazienza? No... So, he had to be on the bench, Vidal may be as well... You think Vidal wouldn't come? And yet he's still here. So no, I'm not going to get over it, as I made it clear in the past that a vice was a need.

king_alex10 wrote:preparre yourself for the classic Sciacca infallable opinion and unbreakable response, simply for not sharing the same view as him

Think as you may, we got all our opinions. I just so happen to agree with this report

aaron792 wrote:Actually he suits AC tactical system~

Sure he does, he had to go replace Pirlo... However, he won't be a starter as Milan depends on the CM's within Defending and not playmaking, so suiting him in Allegri's system is false, no he DOES NOT suit in that system to well. However in doing so, why do you think Pirlo left in the first place and he never played? Think about that for a moment, as that is the reason why the same implies for Aquilani fitting in the tactical system.

LWL91 wrote:1. Aquilani is mediocre
2. Our formation does not need Aquilani
3. Aquilani was too expensive and we acted fast to get top-class Vidal instead of overpriced 15 mill € - Aquilani
4. Aquilani is a playmaker, yet he only had 1 goal and 4 assist last year
5. Marotta needed a set of fullbacks and midfielders so quantity was more important then actual quality.
6. Marotta has done a great job and people who do not like him/blame him for wrong choices should notice the influence of the coach(Conte) and bank (Agnelli)
7. Milan has a strong team and can add quality - we had a weak team and needed competition/quantity.

Spending 40 mill € on 1 player alone (goalkeeper Buffon as Moggi did) will not win you the Scudetto if your team hasn't got any actual fullbacks, or a midfield who does not work around! We need lots of players, and our bank is NOT called Dubai/Emirates or whatever the owner of Chitty owns.. (This also explains why we "lost" Aguero... - "" cause we never actually had him persuaded)

1. Aquilani is mediocore? LOL and yet who else you want for a vice? ALMSOT ALL THE PLAYERS SIGNED ARE MEDIOCORE! So not only is this biased, but it's a condradiction.

2. Our formation NEEDS Aquilani as a VICE for Pirlo(Who else will replace him? Pazienza?)

3.Aquilani's price went down to 12m then to 6m, in which no, he was not expensive at all. Worth the money, unlike some players like Lichstiener, who you want expensive, go refer to him instead.

4. Goals don't justify a playmaker, and sadly you failed to realize that the whole squad as a slump last season, I can give you stats within other players who have failed and you would think twice to even mention Aquilani. Only player was Matri who did good.

5. Marotta claimed and made it clear, THIS SUMMER WAS QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. False and irrelavent.

6. I can blame Marotta and dislike him for many reasons, in which I always brought my back up and facts to the table. By the way, ELKANN IS THE BANK = Owner, Agnelli is the president.

7. We needed Quatity last season, when we changed the whole squad, this time completely diverse.

lucianomoggi wrote:Marotta managed perfect its GALLIANI the one who made mistake by letting PIRLO out;;;

AQUILANI is not even 40% effective like PIRLO is;;;;

How effective does having two years sound to you? How effective to you is being injury prone and not having a vice?

Sciacca, if you actually believe Aquilani was going to join any team where he would sit on the bench and wait to play, then, yes, you will be disappointed by this move. Aquilani would have gladly stayed in Liverpool or Turin if that were the case. Aquilani is 27 and wants to stay in the Azzurri's plans and he's not going to do that being someone's vice.

sciacca wrote:

lucianomoggi wrote:Marotta managed perfect its GALLIANI the one who made mistake by letting PIRLO out;;;

AQUILANI is not even 40% effective like PIRLO is;;;;

How effective does having two years sound to you? How effective to you is being injury prone and not having a vice?

AQUILANI statistics were terrible for a game director role !!!!

and terrible statistics mean FLOP !!!!

and flop mean is worth 0.00 $

why should JUVENTUS spend money on him ???? so they went after PIRLO

LWL91 wrote:1. Aquilani is mediocre
2. Our formation does not need Aquilani
3. Aquilani was too expensive and we acted fast to get top-class Vidal instead of overpriced 15 mill € - Aquilani
4. Aquilani is a playmaker, yet he only had 1 goal and 4 assist last year
5. Marotta needed a set of fullbacks and midfielders so quantity was more important then actual quality.
6. Marotta has done a great job and people who do not like him/blame him for wrong choices should notice the influence of the coach(Conte) and bank (Agnelli)
7. Milan has a strong team and can add quality - we had a weak team and needed competition/quantity.

Spending 40 mill € on 1 player alone (goalkeeper Buffon as Moggi did) will not win you the Scudetto if your team hasn't got any actual fullbacks, or a midfield who does not work around! We need lots of players, and our bank is NOT called Dubai/Emirates or whatever the owner of Chitty owns.. (This also explains why we "lost" Aguero... - "" cause we never actually had him persuaded)

Far, very far from the truth

sciacca wrote:

king_alex10 wrote:

Marotta himself offered 6m like a month ago and we got rejected. Liverpool are desperate to get rid of him and we lost interest so they are doing business with Milan.

Aquilani is the definition of soft and average, he is a downgrade at milan.

False, Marotta never intended or tried to offer 6m for Aquilani. He only tried to get him for 9m, but still refused it as Liverpool wanted 12m. As the future goes on, he went for sale for 6m according to his agent. If Liverpool as you say were desperate to get rid of him they would of sold us Aquilani regardless what happened before. The point is, Marotta never offered, he instead turned his sights on Poli in which failed because Sampdoria were asking for too much.

Aquilani is not the definiton of soft and average, in this case I might say the same about Pirlo as he is soft as a player. Average? Well, if look you back in his Roma days, you'd maybe change your views on him as he was great. He is a Class player, with great talent. Not to mention was one of our best since December, after that he flopped as the whole squad did. Downgrade for Milan? Agreed, but it does not mean it was a bad move.

Luca wrote:Anyone with any knowledge of the market shouldn't be agreeing about the Aquilani case.

Anyone with knowledge with the market, read above, that justifies the knowledge I have with the current market

Juventude wrote:Anyone with knowledge of the market and the Juventus squad shouldn't care about this transfer. Aquilani doesn't fit with this team and he wasn't going to sit on the bench as Pirlo/Marchisio/Vidal's substitution. Juve fans need to get over it.

Oh he dosen't fit on the team eh? Who knew that the Regista the most important factor in Conte's style of play was not important for the squad. Aquilani would of been important, no matter we need a vice in which this case made him fit perfectly in the squad. You think Vidal can be a Regista? Marchisio? Pazienza? No... So, he had to be on the bench, Vidal may be as well... You think Vidal wouldn't come? And yet he's still here. So no, I'm not going to get over it, as I made it clear in the past that a vice was a need.

king_alex10 wrote:preparre yourself for the classic Sciacca infallable opinion and unbreakable response, simply for not sharing the same view as him

Think as you may, we got all our opinions. I just so happen to agree with this report

aaron792 wrote:Actually he suits AC tactical system~

Sure he does, he had to go replace Pirlo... However, he won't be a starter as Milan depends on the CM's within Defending and not playmaking, so suiting him in Allegri's system is false, no he DOES NOT suit in that system to well. However in doing so, why do you think Pirlo left in the first place and he never played? Think about that for a moment, as that is the reason why the same implies for Aquilani fitting in the tactical system.

LWL91 wrote:1. Aquilani is mediocre
2. Our formation does not need Aquilani
3. Aquilani was too expensive and we acted fast to get top-class Vidal instead of overpriced 15 mill € - Aquilani
4. Aquilani is a playmaker, yet he only had 1 goal and 4 assist last year
5. Marotta needed a set of fullbacks and midfielders so quantity was more important then actual quality.
6. Marotta has done a great job and people who do not like him/blame him for wrong choices should notice the influence of the coach(Conte) and bank (Agnelli)
7. Milan has a strong team and can add quality - we had a weak team and needed competition/quantity.

Spending 40 mill € on 1 player alone (goalkeeper Buffon as Moggi did) will not win you the Scudetto if your team hasn't got any actual fullbacks, or a midfield who does not work around! We need lots of players, and our bank is NOT called Dubai/Emirates or whatever the owner of Chitty owns.. (This also explains why we "lost" Aguero... - "" cause we never actually had him persuaded)

1. Aquilani is mediocore? LOL and yet who else you want for a vice? ALMSOT ALL THE PLAYERS SIGNED ARE MEDIOCORE! So not only is this biased, but it's a condradiction.

2. Our formation NEEDS Aquilani as a VICE for Pirlo(Who else will replace him? Pazienza?)

3.Aquilani's price went down to 12m then to 6m, in which no, he was not expensive at all. Worth the money, unlike some players like Lichstiener, who you want expensive, go refer to him instead.

4. Goals don't justify a playmaker, and sadly you failed to realize that the whole squad as a slump last season, I can give you stats within other players who have failed and you would think twice to even mention Aquilani. Only player was Matri who did good.

5. Marotta claimed and made it clear, THIS SUMMER WAS QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. False and irrelavent.

6. I can blame Marotta and dislike him for many reasons, in which I always brought my back up and facts to the table. By the way, ELKANN IS THE BANK = Owner, Agnelli is the president.

7. We needed Quatity last season, when we changed the whole squad, this time completely diverse.

lucianomoggi wrote:Marotta managed perfect its GALLIANI the one who made mistake by letting PIRLO out;;;

AQUILANI is not even 40% effective like PIRLO is;;;;

How effective does having two years sound to you? How effective to you is being injury prone and not having a vice?

Perfectly put.

OMGGG CAANTTT BELEIVEVE ITT!!

INJURYLANY SAID SOMETHING SO WE MUST LISTEN TO HIM!

HE MUST BE RIGHT CUZ HE WAS NOT BOUGHT BY MAROTTA.

THIS MEAN MAROTTA IS BAD REALLY BAD OMGHGOMG!!

Please...

Anyways, couldn't care less. We already have three solid CMs with Pirlo, Marchisio and Vidal and we also have Pazienza, Giandonato, and Marrone.

Juventude wrote:Sciacca, if you actually believe Aquilani was going to join any team where he would sit on the bench and wait to play, then, yes, you will be disappointed by this move. Aquilani would have gladly stayed in Liverpool or Turin if that were the case. Aquilani is 27 and wants to stay in the Azzurri's plans and he's not going to do that being someone's vice.

I'm sorry, but your kidding me right? You do know that Aquilani will be benched in Milan? Why do you think Pirlo came here? He wasn't a starter for Milan and now, Aquilani is his replacement. So expect him on the bench. Aquilani wanted to come back to Juventus, even when Pirlo arrived. When he was on the national team, he told the players that, HE WANTED TO COME BACK TO JUVENTUS. Odd, guys like Cassano, Balotelli who don't often play get a call up, I highly doubt him being a vice FOR PIRLO, will take him out of Prandelli's plans.

lucianomoggi wrote:

AQUILANI statistics were terrible for a game director role !!!!

and terrible statistics mean FLOP !!!!

and flop mean is worth 0.00 $

why should JUVENTUS spend money on him ???? so they went after PIRLO

THE WHOLE SQUADS STATISTICS FOR ALMOST EVERY PLAYER WERE TERRIBLE!
Completely Irrelavent as you mention this only towards Aquilani.

Why should Juventus spend money on Aquilani? Hmm, BECAUSE WE NEED A VICE? But in this case, let's not spend and deal with Pazienza

Keyzar wrote:
Far, very far from the truth

Finally someone with some true logic

Keyzar wrote:

Perfectly put.

Thanks

Sorry, I disagree still strongly with you. Comparing strikers who don't start every game to midfielders that don't start every game is just ridiculous. It's not even close to comparable. Plus, Balotelli and Cassano will see plenty of action as starters as a result of their teams' league, cup, and European games. Aquilani will also see plenty of time at AC for the same reasons if he doesn't break through as a starter. Those will be enough opportunities for him. If he came to Juve, he had to wait for an injury or substitution in Juve's cup or league games.

And of course he wanted to come back to Juve (or that's what he was saying to broker a move). Aquilani didn't want to go back to Liverpool and Juve was his best opportunity to stay in Italy given his past season with them and club's option. You can't put any faith in the newspaper stories anyways about a player saying he wants this or that. It means virtually nothing. Most of the time it's a public relations tactic.

Aquilani is soft and overrated. He wasn't a good fit for our team. I think he may fit in Milan's system, but he cannot play the role we need from him. Thank god we didn't take up his option or even get him for 9 million.

Juventude wrote:Sorry, I disagree still strongly with you. Comparing strikers who don't start every game to midfielders that don't start every game is just ridiculous. It's not even close to comparable. Plus, Balotelli and Cassano will see plenty of action as starters as a result of their teams' league, cup, and European games. Aquilani will also see plenty of time at AC for the same reasons if he doesn't break through as a starter. Those will be enough opportunities for him. If he came to Juve, he had to wait for an injury or substitution in Juve's cup or league games.

And of course he wanted to come back to Juve (or that's what he was saying to broker a move). Aquilani didn't want to go back to Liverpool and Juve was his best opportunity to stay in Italy given his past season with them and club's option. You can't put any faith in the newspaper stories anyways about a player saying he wants this or that. It means virtually nothing. Most of the time it's a public relations tactic.

Aquilani is soft and overrated. He wasn't a good fit for our team. I think he may fit in Milan's system, but he cannot play the role we need from him. Thank god we didn't take up his option or even get him for 9 million.

If that's all you can come up with as I already counterd these arguments, we will agree to disagree.

Ganso wrote:galliani made a great decision by letting pirlo go,we wanted to give him a 1 year contract but he wanted an extension for more than 1 year,but hes too old now,it was time to get rid of him.He didnt fit our system in top of that,we need dynamic midfielders.

If you have not been watching his brilliant performances for Juve...

..then why do you speak?

sciacca wrote:

Juventude wrote:Sorry, I disagree still strongly with you. Comparing strikers who don't start every game to midfielders that don't start every game is just ridiculous. It's not even close to comparable. Plus, Balotelli and Cassano will see plenty of action as starters as a result of their teams' league, cup, and European games. Aquilani will also see plenty of time at AC for the same reasons if he doesn't break through as a starter. Those will be enough opportunities for him. If he came to Juve, he had to wait for an injury or substitution in Juve's cup or league games.

And of course he wanted to come back to Juve (or that's what he was saying to broker a move). Aquilani didn't want to go back to Liverpool and Juve was his best opportunity to stay in Italy given his past season with them and club's option. You can't put any faith in the newspaper stories anyways about a player saying he wants this or that. It means virtually nothing. Most of the time it's a public relations tactic.

Aquilani is soft and overrated. He wasn't a good fit for our team. I think he may fit in Milan's system, but he cannot play the role we need from him. Thank god we didn't take up his option or even get him for 9 million.

If that's all you can come up with as I already counterd these arguments, we will agree to disagree.

Indeed.

sciacca wrote:

Juventude wrote:Sorry, I disagree still strongly with you. Comparing strikers who don't start every game to midfielders that don't start every game is just ridiculous. It's not even close to comparable. Plus, Balotelli and Cassano will see plenty of action as starters as a result of their teams' league, cup, and European games. Aquilani will also see plenty of time at AC for the same reasons if he doesn't break through as a starter. Those will be enough opportunities for him. If he came to Juve, he had to wait for an injury or substitution in Juve's cup or league games.

And of course he wanted to come back to Juve (or that's what he was saying to broker a move). Aquilani didn't want to go back to Liverpool and Juve was his best opportunity to stay in Italy given his past season with them and club's option. You can't put any faith in the newspaper stories anyways about a player saying he wants this or that. It means virtually nothing. Most of the time it's a public relations tactic.

Aquilani is soft and overrated. He wasn't a good fit for our team. I think he may fit in Milan's system, but he cannot play the role we need from him. Thank god we didn't take up his option or even get him for 9 million.

If that's all you can come up with as I already counterd these arguments, we will agree to disagree.

Everything Juventude said is true.

i agree with juventude too.i didnt want aquillani to juve this season for alot of reasons i agree that 6m for him is cheap and is good transfer for millan but 13 million for vidal is cheap too.also our pays wasnt crazy like other years.

so i think marrota did well this summer with one exception not signed one big star that we needed this year more than anything.

eddy wrote:i agree with juventude too.i didnt want aquillani to juve this season for alot of reasons i agree that 6m for him is cheap and is good transfer for millan but 13 million for vidal is cheap too.also our pays wasnt crazy like other years.

so i think marrota did well this summer with one exception not signed one big star that we needed this year more than anything.

we got him for 10.5 mills

ok 10.5 allot better than 13 that was a great move far better than getting aquillani for 6.

I've said in last season, that Aquilani's first half season showed how important to have a player like him in the midfield but his second half season showed he was not the man we needed. His lack change and diversity when dealing with ball. Pirlo is older, but he can hold the possession, he can do long pass and he can do short. However if you take a closer look at how Aquilani played, you would find in a lot of cases he just passed the ball rather quickly to any teammates around. There was little creativity, little penetrance when he played. I don't feel sorry for his leave and I don't think he can contribute too much to milan

The fact that aquilani has gone from a 20 million pound transfer from Roma to Liverpool, then he fell to a 13.5 million pound potential transfer to Juve on an option, and now he's a 6 million euro transfer at age 27 (when he should be at the peak of his career); this says a lot about his quality.

I actually really like Aquilani as a person and wish him well, but he wasn't the answer for us and I just don't see him accepting what would have been largely a bench role at Juve. All of this talk of needing a regista to backup Pirlo is ridiculous. Before calciopoli, Juve was doing quite well without a true regista with the aid of excellent play on the wings. We will survive without Aquilani.

Jive wernt patient. ? Um the aquilani saga dragged on for a good 2 months

pasquale22 wrote:Jive wernt patient. ? Um the aquilani saga dragged on for a good 2 months

That is patience...
Marotta tried for 9M when that was denied he signed Pirlo.

It makes no sense having two players for one spot when both want first team football AND combined they make 7.xxM a year

There is a reason Aquilani's price dropped so dramatically from his transfer to Liverpool now to Milan.