CR7 isn't selfish anymore...

It's not the first time Babun has said this actually, he has been wanting him off before. No knee-jerk

Zealous wrote:He wasn't even that bad. This was one of his better performances against Barcelona. Could have had two goals on the night if he was a bit more fortunate.

Ok say Ronaldo could have done better (I believe he could have done better) but saying he is a "cancer" is 100% Wrong and false. He did a decent job, even tracked back a lot.

I honestly don't feel he deserves the criticism in this thread. Knee-jerk...

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t1183-sell-cronaldo-thread#28703

We missed out on Aguero... I welcome Neymar with open arms

Zealous wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

7amood11 wrote:Knee-jerk reaction? He had one off game, that's it...

Sorry but he's a well known big game choker, tbh he never threatens barca really

Harsh considering you guys parked the bus in the second half to contain him. Ronaldo was consistently double teamed, hardly never a threat. He even scored LOL

He was lucky to score tbf and got dispossessed regularly whenever he tried to do anything.
Anyway before I get called a deluded retarded band wagon fan boy I'm just going to leave this thread now

I'm not gonna join this thread because everybody knows that i hate CR7 to the bones lol...

He wasn't that lucky and he was dispossessed because he was double teamed...

LOL

babun1024 wrote:

Zealous wrote:He wasn't even that bad. This was one of his better performances against Barcelona. Could have had two goals on the night if he was a bit more fortunate.

Ok say Ronaldo could have done better (I believe he could have done better) but saying he is a "cancer" is 100% Wrong and false. He did a decent job, even tracked back a lot.

I honestly don't feel he deserves the criticism in this thread. Knee-jerk...

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t1183-sell-cronaldo-thread#28703

We missed out on Aguero... I welcome Neymar with open arms

Yeah Aguero would have definitely been an upgrade on Benzema.

Hope Nerman can add something when he comes

If anything else doesn't work, just move him into CF position :lol!:

Jack Daniels wrote:I'm not gonna join this thread because everybody knows that i hate CR7 to the bones lol...

C'mon, elaborate some more. I don't want all the fanboy hatred concentrated on me only

It was more of a bad game from CR7 and good game from Alves which made him look crap. To say he is the cancer after that game is not true. He doesn't deserve this hate.

Ok so I remember the first time we had this argument, Babun and I were not too popular afterwards.

But we concluded from this debate on Ronaldo, not that it would be better if he just left but rather if his role changed somewhat.. At least in big games.

I firmly stand by the decision to implement him as a CF especially against teams that have WC full backs. For instance, in a game against Barca nobody can deny he would be more effective if someone created opportunities for him, rather than him trying to create for others or himself.

But such is the egotistical nature of the prat, that he wouldn't listen to this logical reason. A lot of the time I feel as though against Barca he tries to burden himself with the responsibility that he must carry the attack. This was something instilled in him by Pellegrini's tactics of building the attack around him. Thats why we struggled for a while when we he got injured, it was hard to adapt.

Since Pelle's departure, Mou has instilled better teamplay in creating attacks but Ronaldo still has that uncontrollable individualist itch.
Ronaldo is a great footballer, I appreciate his contributions, but his abilities could be utilised even better. No player on this planet can say that there is no area where they need to improve whether they score over 50 goals or not.

Giovanni10 wrote:Ok so I remember the first time we had this argument, Babun and I were not too popular afterwards.

But we concluded from this debate on Ronaldo, not that it would be better if he just left but rather if his role changed somewhat.. At least in big games.

I firmly stand by the decision to implement him as a CF especially against teams that have WC full backs. For instance, in a game against Barca nobody can deny he would be more effective if someone created opportunities for him, rather than him trying to create for others or himself.

But such is the egotistical nature of the prat, that he wouldn't listen to this logical reason. A lot of the time I feel as though against Barca he tries to burden himself with the responsibility that he must carry the attack. This was something instilled in him by Pellegrini's tactics of building the attack around him. Thats why we struggled for a while when we he got injured, it was hard to adapt.

Since Pelle's departure, Mou has instilled better teamplay in creating attacks but Ronaldo still has that uncontrollable individualist itch.
Ronaldo is a great footballer, I appreciate his contributions, but his abilities could be utilised even better. No player on this planet can say that there is no area where they need to improve whether they score over 50 goals or not.

I do agree he fits as a CF much more, but didn't he refuse to play that role when Mou was trying to move him there? I might be wrong, but I remember he did that or something

Wow you guys are overreacting a lot.

Ronaldo did everything you could really ask of him. He tracked back, linked up and took shots on goal when he felt he could score (A lot of them were dangerous as well).

I think you guys are just looking for a scapegoat to blame. Ronaldo played decently all things considered. We obviously hold Cris to a higher standard and I'll be the first to say he could have done better but I and none of you should have anything against him.

Out of all the competitions we are in this is the last meaningful. I have a feeling this season will be a good one. Lots of positives if you want to see them.

I'm talking tactics not scapegoating. Ronaldo had an Ok game. There would be a lot of opportunity for scapegoating and one must look at individual performances too after a team failure and not just the failure of the team. Although we controlled both legs for large periods of time, Barca were clinical up front and very solid at the back. From our team, Benz was wasteful, Ronaldo and Di Maria made countless poor decisions in possession, Khedira is still losing his personal battle with Iniesta, Ramos made a complete mess of our offside trap.

What i'm saying is that almost anyone can be faulted for something. My concern is tactical. Ronaldo would assuredly have been better had he played CF.

@Omarish, I believe there does exist that rumor that Mou asked him to play CF and he refused.. Which is for obvious reasons.. He would see less of the ball and not be the centre of attention which he can't deal with. If Mou believes Cr7 can work out wide in the next classico then fine I trust that decision. But if Mou becomes soft and Ronaldo chooses where he wants to play against what Mou says, then we will never truly be successful in this era.

What do you think of the possibility of Neymar replacing Ronaldo?????

I like how people kneejerk so much but refuse to admit the amount of easy goals Benzema missed over the last two games.


Seriously though who cares, its still pretty much preseason, we have closed the gap alot and I am very impressed

Instead of crying like a bunch of women be proud of our team and have confidence came el clasico we "should" win, baring any problems of course.

Before the last match at Camp Nou we had managed to score 1 goal in our last 5 games at Camp Nou. Now we have scored 2 in one single match.

Have faith and confidence, stop the b$%^#ing, moaning and crying.

Are you guys Madridsta's or what?

futbol_bill wrote:What do you think of the possibility of Neymar replacing Ronaldo?????

I welcome it but it may take him quite some time to adapt to Mourinho style. Neymar has got that little extra you need in final third for an attacker to defeat Farca.

Crimson wrote:I like how people kneejerk so much but refuse to admit the amount of easy goals Benzema missed over the last two games.


Seriously though who cares, its still pretty much preseason, we have closed the gap alot and I am very impressed

Instead of crying like a bunch of women be proud of our team and have confidence came el clasico we "should" win, baring any problems of course.

Before the last match at Camp Nou we had managed to score 1 goal in our last 5 games at Camp Nou. Now we have scored 2 in one single match.

Have faith and confidence, stop the b$%^#ing, moaning and crying.

Are you guys Madridsta's or what?

This, the non-confident posters exposed themselves today LOL

Crimson wrote:I like how people kneejerk so much but refuse to admit the amount of easy goals Benzema missed over the last two games.


Seriously though who cares, its still pretty much preseason, we have closed the gap alot and I am very impressed

Instead of crying like a bunch of women be proud of our team and have confidence came el clasico we "should" win, baring any problems of course.

Before the last match at Camp Nou we had managed to score 1 goal in our last 5 games at Camp Nou. Now we have scored 2 in one single match.

Have faith and confidence, stop the b$%^#ing, moaning and crying.

Are you guys Madridsta's or what?

I do agree Benzemas finishing was even worse than Ronaldo but atleast he made up for it by assisting goals / creating space.

Crimson wrote:I like how people kneejerk so much but refuse to admit the amount of easy goals Benzema missed over the last two games.


Seriously though who cares, its still pretty much preseason, we have closed the gap alot and I am very impressed

Instead of crying like a bunch of women be proud of our team and have confidence came el clasico we "should" win, baring any problems of course.

Before the last match at Camp Nou we had managed to score 1 goal in our last 5 games at Camp Nou. Now we have scored 2 in one single match.

Have faith and confidence, stop the b$%^#ing, moaning and crying.

Are you guys Madridsta's or what?

You won't get far with your populism with me
I'm not b!tching about something non existent, his selfishness in big games is real. It's present since his arrival to Real Madrid.
How am I not a Real Madrid fan when I want Real Madrid instead of Cristiano Ronaldo CF? I don't want to argue with you or anyone else about being RM fan or not, cut out the unneeded BS.

Don't post in the thread if you have nothing to say. I made my point, he is a selfish ballhogger who makes our game one dimensional. Is it true or not? If yes, justify, if not, justify. If your too emotional about your opinion, go and open a thread about it. Nothing to do with being men or woman.

I'm a man because I'm not afraid to state a very unpopular opinion here. You don't even have one. All you do is to complain :lol!:

The point is that your opinion is unfair to Ronaldo.

I see what you mean but I really think you are overreacting with your point and taking it to an extreme.

Ronaldo could have done better but so could have a lot of our players (including the guy in your sig) singling out one player for blame is childish.

I'm not a big fan of Benzema (lol) but even I won't blame him for our loss, because he did some positive things, just like Ronaldo. Were their some negative things? Yes, definitely but are they enough to make us call a player a cancer? Fcuk No.

ijomer wrote:Man... didnt he try to assist Benzema two times last Leg? the headers that Benzema screwed up? Who would he cross the ball to? seriously, only thing he could do was cross it for a header because a low cross would just be cleared easily... and Do you really thing Ozil, Di Maria and Benz can head??

If Benz could score from headers, we would have won first leg 4-2... I love all Madrid players equally, but i know not to criticize them when they have a bad game or when they make a decision that we might consider wrong but in reality its the right decision...

DIdn't you see one of theses "selfish" shots hit the cross bar today? almost scored... he also scored the first goal...

Im not a fan boy of anyone.. I respect all Madrid players equally and i love them... but we must understand the situations they are in, and assess the skills of our players before hand.

For 90m that single shot that he "almost scored" sure was impressive.

futbol_bill wrote:What do you think of the possibility of Neymar replacing Ronaldo?????

Some wimp who hasn't proven himself at the highest level to replace the guy we paid 90m for?

Found a great argument in Ronaldo's favour:

"If no-one bothers to make a supporting run or a run into the box then Ronaldo is forced to hold onto the ball which increases the chance of someone closing him down and being able to either block the ball or put in a tackle. Benzema slowed the entire attack down and was rarely in the correct position. When Real Madrid did have players actually moving and making runs (notably when Coentrão was pushed forward) then Alves was regularly bypassed or beaten.

When he is used more centrally and subsequently has more opportunities to influence the play and from better positions. If some of the botched chances over these two games had fallen to Ronaldo... we could have seen more goals. The attack is far too heavily reliant on Ronaldo. When he does not score or he is used in a wider support role it is risky because Benzema and Higuain are too erratic in terms of their overall games and not nearly clinical enough. It also does not help that Özil cannot be relied upon for an entire game. It definitely needs a striker upgrade not only for helping to share the goal burden but also in providing another option capable of operating on the same level as Ronaldo and Özil in terms of link-up play.

Messi is playing in a settled team with superior attacking players around him in terms of movement, link-up play and chance conversion. He is utilised perfectly to make the most out of his game and to provide him with the platform and opportunity to influence the game and score. The same simply cannot be said of Ronaldo. His performances to date are in spite of his utilisation to date. Messi has Barcelona. Ronaldo has Özil for an hour."

Pretty much agree here.

I actually noticed that a few times... But it's not that we're complaining about, it's his shooting from bad angles when the team are trying to build a build-up (which happened a few times). His problem is he always shoots when he has the ball when he shouldn't shoot it becouse of the bad angle.

Have to agree with myself on this one, this is pretty much overreaction from Babun but say what, I've seen more radical stuff here.

Yeah this definitely is an over reaction over CR7 though I just hated when he always tried to dribble past Alves but always failed [In the first half]. That was because no Marcelo was there and Coentrao didn't make the right runs.

Anyway Ronaldo ALWAYS remained a threat, he never disappeared in the game. Barcelona definitely feared him that's why they always tried to isolate him. He went to the right in the final 10 minutes which didn't help us tbh.

If only Callejon started, I personally think he would have been an upgrade, he doesn't try to dribble past player and knows passing is the solution.