Who is better than Pele?
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Who is better than Pele?
How about Gerd Mueller? He played in Europe, 2nd top-scorer in the history of the EC/CL (second only to Raul who has played almost twice as many games). 68 goals in 62 matches for Germany says it all about his goal-scoring abilities.. More WC goals than Pele and he only played 2 WCs. Won 3 CLs with Bayern, several league titles while the Bundesliga was in its prime and a European Player of the Year award. Plus, he has scored around 200 more unofficial goals. 7 top scorer awards in 9 years. Maybe he's not a better "player" or more "complete", but he is certainly a better scorer than Pele. After all, he was voted the best scorer of the 20th centur.
Or maybe Puskas with the Mighty Magyars? The team that lost only once in 6 years.
Do not include Maradona in this thread. He is a whole different issue.
Or maybe Puskas with the Mighty Magyars? The team that lost only once in 6 years.
Do not include Maradona in this thread. He is a whole different issue.
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
The AC Milan legend that is Ignazio Abate.
In all seriousness Roberto Baggio + Zidanne. They deserve to be up with Maradonna and Pele, particularly Pele.
In all seriousness Roberto Baggio + Zidanne. They deserve to be up with Maradonna and Pele, particularly Pele.
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
Typical manc biais here but there is a reason Pele said Georges Best was the best player he has ever seen and that Maradona had him as his idol.
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
Maradona, Garincha, Cruyff, Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo...
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ChollaVille wrote:Maradona, Garincha, Cruyff, Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo...
Big fail on Messi and even R9 was not quite as good.
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azzurres wrote:Typical manc biais here but there is a reason Pele said Georges Best was the best player he has ever seen and that Maradona had him as his idol.
Maybe that is biased, however George Best is certainly in my top 10 ever. Maybe even top 8...
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Gerd Mueller is a legend of his own. Extremely underrated player. He was not flashy, not very creative and had some funny balance, but Goddamn if he could score goals!
Compared to Pele, I'm not sure because he's nowhere near as complete but I say you can put him in the same caliber because he does have hundreds of official goals, and all over Europe, not just Brazil.
Compared to Pele, I'm not sure because he's nowhere near as complete but I say you can put him in the same caliber because he does have hundreds of official goals, and all over Europe, not just Brazil.
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
If not for injuries I think Brazilian Ronaldo would be the best of all time
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i think you forgot that messi>R9sportsczy wrote:ChollaVille wrote:Maradona, Garincha, Cruyff, Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo...
Big fail on R9 and even Messi is not quite as good.
on topic messi can be the best ever. scores more than strikers, assists more than midfielders. you can not find another player like this. if you consider wc titles nobody is going to beat pele's titles
in another word 3 ballon dors and WPOTY is enough to be in that list that sporctsczy is listed. but messi is going to win it 5-6 times. so breaking so many records can make you best ever
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billionmillion wrote:i think you forgot that messi>R9sportsczy wrote:ChollaVille wrote:Maradona, Garincha, Cruyff, Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo...
Big fail on R9 and even Messi is not quite as good.
on topic messi can be the best ever. scores more than strikers, assists more than midfielders. you can not find another player like this. if you consider wc titles nobody is going to beat pele's titles
in another word 3 ballon dors and WPOTY is enough to be in that list that sporctsczy is listed. but messi is going to win it 5-6 times. so breaking so many records can make you best ever
can't agree more
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No player will be in the "best ever" conversation if they can't get NT results when playing for a powerhouse nation... once that happens, he belongs in the conversation. For now, Messi is a legendary club player.
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Messi aint fit to tie R9's boots
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sportsczy wrote:No player will be in the "best ever" conversation if they can't get NT results when playing for a powerhouse nation... once that happens, he belongs in the conversation. For now, Messi is a legendary club player.
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
Marco Van Basten,if not for his injuries,would've been arguably the greatest of all time. I have seen plenty of full games of him playing. He was absolutely stunning. His finishing would make an oger smile.
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just an observation, but every time i see Messi mentioned as the greatest ever or among the greatest ever in a post, i look at the user's avatar and sig and almost always there's something argentina or barcelona related.
not drawing any conclusions here (i'll leave that for you to do), im just stating what i've noticed.
not drawing any conclusions here (i'll leave that for you to do), im just stating what i've noticed.
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Messi >>>>Pele
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
George Best.
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ArsenalWenger wrote:George Best.
no! your supposed to mention Cliff Bastin or Ted Drake!!!!
lol jk, but seriously Ted Drake is one of the best ever as far as ability goes.
and no one is better then Pele, we all just want to find someone better then he is because we all like going against the public opinion
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keep hating
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Re: Who is better than Pele?
Pele is top 3 this is guy is number one.
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