Re: Official Spanish SuperCup Thread ( 1st leg )

by S32TABLANCA Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 1:50

Arquitecto wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
MOTM. Xabi Alonso by a country mile.

Valdes. He is now actually good, frighteningly, and with a worse goalkeeper Barca wouldve conceded much, much more.

Come up with something better then that.

I'm a neutral so I had a clear pattern on who was superior and who wasn't.

What do you mean, come up with something better? Im just offering my opinion, I couldnt be bothered if you like it or not, and by acting in that way I wonder if you're neutral or not. If you're so convinced of your superiority, then why bother discussiong with mere mortals? I have my opinion and you have yours, doesnt mean yours is right and doesnt mean you can react like that.

by jibers Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 1:59

If real madrid play with their full squad against an undertrengthened barca side and can only draw at home, i fear an all to familiar slaughtering at the camp nou.

by Mr Nick09 Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:02

werent you predicting that they would beat us home and away? lol

edit: oh, nevermind me, wrong person Embarassed

by guest7 Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:02

I think we can actually win the one in Nou, if Busquets isn't playing.

And if we play Coentrao, becouse he was very good defensively. And if we're clinical, not wasteful, but 1 goal and PTB should do it.

by Mamad Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:06

jibers wrote:If real madrid play with their full squad against an undertrengthened barca side and can only draw at home, i fear an all to familiar slaughtering at the camp nou.

Result isn't important, performance is. and we were better side by far.....

by jibers Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:08

Yea, they were close to beating you at home. Two shotson goal, two goals scored, i expect a lamb to be sacrificed in the nou camo. The lamb being RM of course. Real MAdrids counter attack is amazing to watch, it's like watching the old united. Football at it's best.

by Arquitecto Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:11

Saetablanca wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
MOTM. Xabi Alonso by a country mile.

Valdes. He is now actually good, frighteningly, and with a worse goalkeeper Barca wouldve conceded much, much more.

Come up with something better then that.

I'm a neutral so I had a clear pattern on who was superior and who wasn't.

What do you mean, come up with something better? Im just offering my opinion, I couldnt be bothered if you like it or not, and by acting in that way I wonder if you're neutral or not. If you're so convinced of your superiority, then why bother discussiong with mere mortals? I have my opinion and you have yours, doesnt mean yours is right and doesnt mean you can react like that.

Maybe I forgot the smily face before my retort. My mistake as I tend to do that.

Neutrality? Just offering my view on the game as I would have said the same if Barca fans pester Madrid fans on domination in a 2-2 draw if Madrid had half of their squad missing for more then a game.

So lets discuss, Valdes made some saves yet so did Casillas. But this is a goal keepers job as I'm guessing RM fans aren't used to getting shots over 7 against a possession filled Barca. Valdes simply did his job but did not change the game with his distribution or make unbelievable saves (bar the Benz header) that marks him MOTM. Conclusion is that he isn't MOTM as he did nothing extraordinary as his saves are expected of him.

Alonso on the other hand was the absolute maestro of Madrid attacks and was the architect of every play going through his boots. His control and possession of the game made the difference for Madrid as I have been trying to explain to Barca fans that when he does receive the ball in the classicos, he does wonders yet doesn't get that chance often due to Barca's possession.

Since Barca were without their midfield, he got to show why he is one of the 3 best midfielders in the world as Mou has finally started to use him to the best of his abilities as he will continue to do this with the right leverage and platform.

Madrid's most important player today and on a daily basis.

by RED Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:13

Fantastic match. really enjoyed it. I think RM deserved to win though, they were brilliant from start to finish...but such is the quality that Barca have, they scored 2 goals from nothing.

Can't wait for the return leg.

by buddytaller Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:21

Great game, at half time Real Madrid was leading the possession stats by about 60%. I've a feeling the only thing that stands in the way of this Barcelona team from imploding, is a sudden loss of form or a long term injury to Messi and Xavi. They're just not the same without them.

by Albiceleste Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:25

by Mr Nick09 Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:27

marcelo did pretty well against Sanchez...

by Zealous Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:28

We started our pre-season seven days before Barca. OMG WE ARE SO AHEAD OF THEM IN PREPARATION.

Poor excuse is poor. I don't even know why excuses were being made the result was in Barca's favour but I guess the performance must have made an impression on some Twisted Evil

by Zealous Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:29

Lionel Messi wrote:

Great pic.

Ronaldo is so much taller than Messi Shocked

by Arquitecto Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:29

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:marcelo did pretty well against Sanchez...

I feel Marcelo was impressive in attack but let Sanchez get by him all to many times as only Sanchez's final product was lacking to magnify this.

I'm sure Marcelo will make sure to improve on this, as although I doubt Sanchez will play in the 2nd.

by Zealous Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:30

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:marcelo did pretty well against Sanchez...

shhhhhh... he's supposed to be a defensive liability. Cool

by Mr Nick09 Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:31

Disagree, wow, defensively Marcelo was owning Sanchez as well. Of course he got through sometimes, it's impossible for him not to get through, but he was a tight rope from marcela.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:32

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:marcelo did pretty well against Sanchez...

Yep he did but i dont blame Sanchez for any type of poor performance considering Madrid dominated the game same reason i dont blame Thiago....

One of the reasons Xavi and Iniesta is so good is because the balls they get feeded by Busquets and Pique and inturn they feed the forwards...

Thiago was being fed by Mascherano and Keita tonight :lol!:

Saying this i dont think Sanchez was poor, just had poor service really.

by Arquitecto Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:35

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Disagree, wow, defensively Marcelo was owning Sanchez as well. Of course he got through sometimes, it's impossible for him not to get through, but he was a tight rope from marcela.

Nick,

I wouldn't say owning him he simply subdued his offense to the point where he could not produce the final ball.

No where near owning as many close calls for Marcelo defensively as tenacity in the end prevailed.

I didn't see Marcelo as motivated as he usually is though as this could be attributed to the Asian tour where he played many games.

by jibers Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:36

WIthout the spine barca are beatable, Pique and busquets are crucial to the way barca build up from the back and it showed today. They couldnt hold on to the ball. WHat was the possession stats like?

by Albiceleste Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:40

jibers wrote:WIthout the spine barca are beatable, Pique and busquets are crucial to the way barca build up from the back and it showed today. They couldnt hold on to the ball. WHat was the possession stats like?

First half Barca 59% RM 41%

Full time (after xavi pique and pedro came on) Barca 47% RM 53%

by Zealous Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:46

We were at 60 % possession at one stage.

53% in the end.

by jibers Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:46

Lionel Messi wrote:
jibers wrote:WIthout the spine barca are beatable, Pique and busquets are crucial to the way barca build up from the back and it showed today. They couldnt hold on to the ball. WHat was the possession stats like?
First half Barca 59% RM 41%

Full time (after xavi pique and pedro came on) Barca 47% RM 53%

This must be one of the few time barca has less possession than the opposition. At least la llga looks like it is going to be competitive.

by jibers Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:48

Zealous wrote:We were at 60 % possession at one stage.

53% in the end.

You guys did bloody well.

by H.A. Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:50

jibers wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
jibers wrote:WIthout the spine barca are beatable, Pique and busquets are crucial to the way barca build up from the back and it showed today. They couldnt hold on to the ball. WHat was the possession stats like?
First half Barca 59% RM 41%

Full time (after xavi pique and pedro came on) Barca 47% RM 53%

This must be one of the few time barca has less possession than the opposition. At least la llga looks like it is going to be competitive.

Yeah, I don't think it will unfortunately, still a two horse race unless proven otherwise by the end of the season bounce

by Mamad Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 2:59

If Barca wasn't ready Physically, then they will not be in return leg too. it's just 3 days....

by Zealous Mon 15 Aug 2011 - 3:02

Barca are ready physically as they will ever be IMO. They were never the physical type anyway.

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