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Post by cookie Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:44 pm

impressive 1st season at bayern
impressive world cup
average last season with bayern & germany
still looked average till today with bayern & germany

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Post by Ganso Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:48 pm

yeah i posted this last week,hes been quite meh recently

lets wait for more games to judge though
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Post by justdoit_ Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 pm

He hasn't taken his game to the next level like everyone expected.

Still very good, but I don't know if his limited physical tools will allow for him to ever become a bona fide superstar.
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Post by Artemis Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:23 pm

He is so classy. Great touch and vision.

But limited physical attributes will always bring him down.

I think the WC inflated his potential a lot.

People need to remember that the WC is a very small amount of games...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:26 pm

podolski 2.0?
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Post by Artemis Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:29 pm

"podolski 2.0?"

I never thought of that, but I think you're on to something. There is a lot in common.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:29 pm

only he is better but he doesnt have the most powerful shot in the world.
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Post by The Messiah Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:40 pm

Muller is getting better I don't know what you guys are all about, he just had a terrible game today.


The whole Bayern team hasn't be playing up to expectation...
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Post by Sushi Master Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:29 pm

Mueller is also being played out of position. He's usually in the hole behind Gomez, but can perform decently on the right wing where he plays in the NT.

Now on the left, that's somewhere he plays to plug in holes from injuries, not anywhere near his natural position.
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Post by Babun Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:28 pm

He is alright, needs to get going in 2-3 more matches and be played behind Gomez or on the right Very Happy
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Post by RobbyV Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:46 am

He doesnt have Robben or Ozil sending him tap-ins anymore???
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Post by Berbaflop Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:36 am

there is a reason why maradona ignore him.

In before germany 4:0 argentina
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Post by Toffer Harley Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:06 am

seriously wtf - average last season at bayern? 12 goals and 13 assists in bundesliga alone. this thread is a joke.
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Post by Sabra1 Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:36 am

Mueller didn't have an average season. It was pretty good actually, but it was nowhere near the likes of Goetze and other German youngsters. He did well, had several good performances, gave a couple of assists..
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Post by Eivindo Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:35 pm

Thomas looks so damn dumb, thats why he will never be a world hitter.
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Post by RedOranje Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:40 pm

Eivindo wrote:Thomas looks so damn dumb, thats why he will never be a world hitter.
If you want to be taken seriously it would probably be best to avoid calling a player who's game and playing style are based around intelligence "dumb."
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Post by The Madrid One Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:05 am

RedOranje wrote:
Eivindo wrote:Thomas looks so damn dumb, thats why he will never be a world hitter.
If you want to be taken seriously it would probably be best to avoid calling a player who's game and playing style are based around intelligence "dumb."
by what he's seen of muller i suppose hes making that statement from, he just hasn't been impressed...

question: is everyone expecting him to be a world class beater or..? what do people truly expect from muller? honestly? those who have seen him well, seen what he can offer and have an idea of how he will progress...
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Post by Toffer Harley Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:10 am

First prof. season:
BL 13 / 11 (34 games)
CL 2 / 3 (12 games)

great World Cup

Second prof. season:
BL 12 goals / 13 assists (34 games)
CL 3 / 4 (8 games)

it's really goin down the hill with him..

But it's better for him to stay under the radar like Klose for most of his career and just do his work quietly. He does bring a lot of unapparent quality to the table, as most people wanna see people like oezil as CAM/SS and robben or ronaldo as wingers.

People who know a thing or two about football should be able to see his worth though. Further he has shown that he can play football consistently on a high level - while having a few bad games inbetween, but nothing serious. That's great for a 20/21 year old, who is playing for a big club where there is big pressure.

Schweinsteiger had a rather bad season after his breakthrough as a CM under vG and an impressive world cup, but the same can never be said about Mueller who carried Bayern through the hard times as one of their better players, linked up great with ribery/robben/gomez and scored goals against big opponents.
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:28 am

He's also barely 22 years old... talk about unrealistic expectations.
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Post by cookie Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:53 am

i guessed we all agree post world cup 2010 there were a lot of hype around german young players and Thomas Mueller was the one that being hyped the most
with the hype he got what he has done so far is dissapointing
i saw no improvement of him ever since the world cup, not only he wasn't improved but he was also looked worse both in Bayern & NT
we expect youngster at 21 to improve instead of regress or decline, no?
i hope that will change this season
but so far i don't like what i saw from him at the start of this season
i'll visit this thread again after some more games from him

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Post by boss Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:19 am

mmm.Good 4Mehmedi n NikÇi tomorrow ZURICH vs BM Razz

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Post by Toffer Harley Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:52 pm

cookie wrote:i guessed we all agree post world cup 2010 there were a lot of hype around german young players and Thomas Mueller was the one that being hyped the most
with the hype he got what he has done so far is dissapointing
i saw no improvement of him ever since the world cup, not only he wasn't improved but he was also looked worse both in Bayern & NT
we expect youngster at 21 to improve instead of regress or decline, no?
i hope that will change this season
but so far i don't like what i saw from him at the start of this season
i'll visit this thread again after some more games from him

first of all, no oezil was hyped the most. secondly his stats have improved while his team has played utter bs last season - no idea how that is a sign of decline, it's quite the opposite.

read my previous post or check out transfermarkt.de yourself. even uli hoeness said that he should get the praise he deserves for stepping up in such a bad season for the club. this season have only been three games and he hasn't been used on his position - great indicator.

this troll thread is giving me a headache, i'm out.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:36 pm

cookie wrote:impressive 1st season at bayern
Yup
impressive world cup
Yup
average last season with bayern & germany
Nope.
Actually he looked tired as first, as did almost all of the Bayern squad, but once he recovered he was actually one of their most consistent performers, and basically saved their asses, together with Gomez. He had like 30ish scorer points. That's a lot for a forward that is mostly expected to feed the other forwards.

still looked average till today with bayern & germany
That's kinda true, but a slow start to a season isn't really a decline.
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Post by Serge Gnabry Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:44 pm

Müller has never been really flashy (except for that goal vs Roma).
I mean, even most German and Bayern fans were surprised by his WC exploits.


People should not overrate that tournament. He plays in a different position
for Bayern.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:51 pm

People also shouldn't underrate him last season, he was pretty good, actually, especially considering his teams half-collapse.
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