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Post by free_cat Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:36 am

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free_cat wrote:I already asked this in another thread but: is Roma a rich club now? Owned by oil-sheiks too??

I agree with that sentiment.

We're better off than in other seasons, but we're not mega-rich with a bottomless warchest like Citeh, PSG and Malaga seem to have. Our wealth has limits and that suits me just fine.

It was not a statement but a genuine question, I have no idea about it. Who are the new owners?

So far Roma is doing more selling than buying, no?

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Post by free_cat Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:13 pm

up?
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Post by zizzle Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:29 pm

its too early to judge Roma's project, and their owners are not splashing the cash like everyone expected, they are going with a long term project so i dont expect them to make an immediate impact

The Arab who bough Malaga wasnt exactly thinking on the long term as the city's location and the population (half a mill) wouldnt support their growth. Sure they have the cash and they play in the Liga, but on the long term, with the lack of a big local fanbase, and with the FFA rules on the horizon, i dont see them as a big success

The Problem with PSG is that they play in the french league, and if they're to become a dominant force in europe, they'll have to live off the left overs of big european teams like Barca, Madrid and United, coz no top player would reject these teams (who can match PSG's wages) to play is France


so, the final verdict is not easy as non of the teams are in the same position as Chelsea and City, but if Roma's owners do better in the transfer market, their team can easily become a world wide brand
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Post by zizzle Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:32 pm

free_cat wrote:
McLewis wrote:
free_cat wrote:I already asked this in another thread but: is Roma a rich club now? Owned by oil-sheiks too??

I agree with that sentiment.

We're better off than in other seasons, but we're not mega-rich with a bottomless warchest like Citeh, PSG and Malaga seem to have. Our wealth has limits and that suits me just fine.

It was not a statement but a genuine question, I have no idea about it. Who are the new owners?

So far Roma is doing more selling than buying, no?


some american investors...not as rich as city's owner though
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Post by InterMalia Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:35 pm

Roma shouldn't be here as they are already a big club.
But when it comes to transfers Roma won't buy big as the other do, remember the new owner is american, he's there to make money.
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:38 pm

Cant see Malaga becoming much of a force

Barca & real have to much of a monopoly and unfair advantage in the league.

I personally think PSG have the best chance, Lique 1 is much more open. Depending who they sign & what they win allot of the glory fan boys will probably become die hard PSG supporters. Possibly taking some of the focus away from La Liga and directing it to Lique 1.

Not sure about Roma
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Post by free_cat Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:44 pm

InterMalia wrote:Roma shouldn't be here as they are already a big club.
But when it comes to transfers Roma won't buy big as the other do, remember the new owner is american, he's there to make money.

Has anyone, ever, made money investing in a football team?
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Post by Art Morte Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:52 pm

I think Roma are doing the right thing by not splashing the cash at this point. It would take crazy amounts of money to get instantly on the level of the Milan teams, better to try and build a bit slower.
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Post by Sir Psycho Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:59 pm

The Roman Empire wasn't built in a day.. Razz
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:28 pm

"They say Rome wasn't built in a day, but I wasn't on that particular job."
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Post by InterMalia Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:02 pm

free_cat wrote:
InterMalia wrote:Roma shouldn't be here as they are already a big club.
But when it comes to transfers Roma won't buy big as the other do, remember the new owner is american, he's there to make money.

Has anyone, ever, made money investing in a football team?
Is it possible someone invests hundreds of millions without a profit?

Only one owner i could think of who had other motives when buying his club, that's Berlusconi.
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Post by McLewis Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:11 pm

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free_cat wrote:I already asked this in another thread but: is Roma a rich club now? Owned by oil-sheiks too??

I agree with that sentiment.

We're better off than in other seasons, but we're not mega-rich with a bottomless warchest like Citeh, PSG and Malaga seem to have. Our wealth has limits and that suits me just fine.

It was not a statement but a genuine question, I have no idea about it. Who are the new owners?

So far Roma is doing more selling than buying, no?

Well it's a bit even honestly. We've obviously gotten rid of some dead weight (Doni) and have let go of players who sought greener pastures such as Vucinic, Menez, and Mexes.

As you can see, we've conversely brought in some younger talent as well as established talent. Lamela has been our most expensive buy at around 20m.

So we're definitely not pulling an Udinese. Di Benedetto (our new owner) as well as Enrique do not want that. Di Benedetto promised 6 new players when he was still a prospective owner and we've signed 5 already.

In fact, Enrique wants 5 more players by the start of the season. It remains to be seen whether he'll actually get those players, but it speaks volumes of not only his ambition, but the club's at the moment. Don't expect us to break the bank though. This program is in place to build our brand of football gradually over years. I like to think of it as natural evolution over rapid mutation.
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Post by wigglesworth Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:43 pm

free_cat wrote:
InterMalia wrote:Roma shouldn't be here as they are already a big club.
But when it comes to transfers Roma won't buy big as the other do, remember the new owner is american, he's there to make money.

Has anyone, ever, made money investing in a football team?

Yes. The Glazers, Pozzo, Zamperini and many others.
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Post by guest7 Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:46 pm

Malaga will get crushed by Real and Barcelona sadly
Roma is not there yet...
PSG is looking good. Probably gonna dominate Ligue 1
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Post by awalezelin Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:10 pm

stoke will be the real european force

beware.......................
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Post by M99 Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:18 pm

PSG, they have signed some superb players and got a hell lot of money to spend. See them dominating Ligue 1 like Lyon used to and be serious Champions League contenders in the future. Roma is already a big club and they have not made any multi million signings as I thought they would. They seem to be working on a long term project, bringing in a young coach (Enrique), young players (Jose Angel, Lamela, Bojan) and seriously concentrating on their new stadium. They are going the right way.
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Post by maruf063 Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:43 pm

I agree with some others that Roma aren't wealthy enough. But their strategy is the most interesting unlike PSG and Malaga. Their owner have promised to double the revenue within 5 years. If they can somehow build a new stadium within 3-4 years, then Milan and Inter won't be able to dominate Serie A... They have taken the Barca route..play beautiful and merchandize your brand. Barca were 15th in the money league few years back,now they are 2nd. Roma just needs a new stadium and a champ trophy playing beautiful football with young, energetic and mostly home grown players. Strategically they are well ahead of other two. Their path is the toughest one, but it can be a long lasting and highly effective too. Only time will tell

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Post by Lord Hades Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:44 pm

lol isnt roma a european force already?? they sure beat us in 08..
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