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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 08, 2024 2:24 pm

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Myestats, its time to let go, my friend Laughing

He has rejected psg offer but not ours. It’s not over until it’s over

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Post by Glory Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm

Firenze wrote:insanity, Woodward and co are fucking amateurish plebs, we need a full clearout this cycle, definitely a transitionary period

 


which sadly is not going to happen this season. Fans wanting instant change in fortunes of course are going to end up disappointed and will blame INEOS for being 'more of the same'. At the same time though, I am kind of bemused at some of the prices they are demanding for mediocre players. That is the only criticism I have of them at this point in time. Its true that other Prem clubs are casually raking in 30 mil for random academy graduates, but there may be many different factors contributing to that. Now fans may argue that finally we have owners who wont cave in and sell players for peanuts. But that I am afraid is only applicable to players who other teams find value in which in our case are only very few.

Lets take McTominay for example. United want 30 mil for him which in isolation is a kind of a fair deal considering he contributes clutch goals for both club and country. But if we take that away what is he, a nothing player who hides from ball and doesnt know to pass it forward. Everyone knows that however differently you dress it up. Even lower league teams wont find any value in a player like that for that kind of money. Also, the stock of these United -players under years of mismanagement and on insanely disproportionate salaries is at their all time low now, also taking into account their last season's pathetic showing. McTominay atleast in that case is at a relatively better standing than some of the other duds.
Them asking 15 million for a 32 year old Casemiro who is also the highest earner at the club after the shit stain of a season he had last year is pure madness.
Same with Sancho. Who in their right mind would pay 50 mil for a fairweather man child who can only play well against shitty defenders. Sometimes these guys need to take the L, fucking sell and move on.

By being unnecessarily adamant they are not only depriving the team of much needed strengthening, at the same time they are making it weaker with so many deadwood who will once again significant amount of game time this season. Its understandable that they dont have to money to spare without selling (Thanks Glazers for that). But atleast accepting a 20 mil for mct and relieving us of casemiro's huge wages might open the door for a Mazzroui in defense or a Rabiot or Sander Berge in midfield. Instead, come matchday 1, we will once again field for yet another fucking season, a backline consisting of Lindelof, Evans, Maguire and Wan Bissaka with Casemiro as DM.

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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:42 pm

Same old transfer saga drags on daily, basically its like the TV Series, needing fillers on daily shows cos everybody wants news everyday, n transfer happens in only one day hence nothing to see until Aug 30th lol...
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:58 pm

Always thought Mctominay is underrated? Hes not stand out in anything but a decent all rounder... kinda like Rabiot but not as good? Razz Anyway, 30M in today market definitely is a fair price... lol Man U so desperate to offload ppl, perhaps need to wait for their contracts to expire then Very Happy
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Post by Firenze Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:17 pm

No he can score goals sometimes as an aerial threat but he can't do anything else, he's atrocious and scared of the ball

we can't just sell players for cheap cuz of the new financial stuff that's been implemented I think? we still owe money on a lot of the players we still owe money on some players we want gone I think

anyway, Bayern have now said Tah won't be coming this summer, which likely means De Ligt is off

hindsight due to his injury but dropping 60M on Yoro was dumb if that was the bulk of our money this summer (after getting Zirkee)

we are really going to start the season with Maguire - Lindelof, Bissaka, Mctominay etc rofl season is over after a promising start to summer rumours, got zero interest now
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Post by Firenze Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:20 pm

Best thing we can do as far as I see it

Sancho to PSG on loan, Ugarte to United on loan with an option for both teams

sell Mctominay for 20M to Fulham, that's pure profit, sign Rabiot as his replacement on a free

I'm fine with keeping Bissaka or we can explore a swap deal with Dumfries per rumours

then look for another loan with an option on a CB or buy a cheap one for 15 mil, how we cant get rid of Lindelof is crazy to me

We've become Juve

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Post by Glory Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:35 pm

PSG wont agree option to buy for Ugarte even if give Sancho. They somehow think more teams are on the table for him Rolling Eyes Wonder who they are. Its mad I mean they have like 5 or 6 midfielders whom Enrique would ideally start ahead of Ugarte and yet the pricks want what they paid for him last year. Woodward/Murtough would have agreed to meet their demands though. Glad INEOS is standing firm and moving on. If we are still interested we can get him for half the price next summer when his valuation obviously will drop. If some imaginary team somehow comes with a 60 mil offer before that and snatch him, very well then.

Re McTominay totally, just sell him for 20 and get someone on cheap. Sander Berge who I think would be a shrewd signing would defo be an upgrade on Casemiro right now. Even Fofana wouldnt be a bad idea. We also will have Collyer who looks decent to fill that role eventually.

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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:29 pm

Never thought I'd say this to Man U, but I feel ur pain lol... even though I love watching it continue XD Its so bad that Casemiro who looked so good for Real looks so shit together in that mess XD That back line, then signing useless strikers that Ten Hag saying he might play Sancho as a striker XD N all this with Ten Hag continuing on XD It just doesnt get any better lol

On the good side, it can only go up from here? Razz
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Post by Myesyats Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:00 pm

Firenze wrote:Olmo to Barca seems dumb

BarcaLearning wrote:Lol...seriously? Then the question again would be is Olmo a Flick or Deco/Laporta transfer?

I guess we'll never know. The reports say Flick requested Olmo because he thinks he's perfect for his system, versatile, intelligent and can play in multiple positions. Laporta prioritized Nico, though.

Id say Olmo is a Flick/Deco transfer while Laporta wants Nico because he thinks its more of a "star" signing

Is it a dumb signing? Very likely due to his injury history. But I also think he'd perfect for Flick's direct and vertical style of play. What we also have to consider is that Gundogan probably can't play every game due to his age, Pedri and Gavi are still young and have been plagued by injuries, Fermin and Torre are decent but not first team material. And also - depth. Olmo can play RM,CM, LM, LW, AM and he seems very professional. If he stays injury free this should prove to be a decent signing.

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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:22 pm

La Liga watchers is Mario Hermoso still decent? apparently we're talking to him since he's available for 'free'...goddamn I would literally welcome anyone so I don't have to see Lindelof/Maguire/Evans playing next season. Can also play as a LB? which we desperately need options for. Seems a smart signing on paper if srs.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Aug 09, 2024 3:08 pm

Firenze wrote:La Liga watchers is Mario Hermoso still decent? apparently we're talking to him since he's available for 'free'...goddamn I would literally welcome anyone so I don't have to see Lindelof/Maguire/Evans playing next season. Can also play as a LB? which we desperately need options for. Seems a smart signing on paper if srs.


Good back up, absolutely not starter material. Will get eaten alive by the likes of Haaland and Toney and co. He is a massive thug too and could easily cause a penalty with reckless defending. He was much better when he played for Espanyol
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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 09, 2024 3:31 pm

gotcha, that sounds alright since he would just be a rotation player
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:40 pm

29yo CB from Atletico for free should definitely be a good deal n upgrade to at least old Evans? Very Happy

As for Man C should get a replacement for Alvarez cos I dunno any backup for Haaland? Of cos Pep can play without striker but still, if Man C wanna win everything again it should a must... any decent rumours?
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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:55 pm

I was thinking about that too, curious who they will bring in, nobody comes to mind currently
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Post by Myesyats Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:50 pm

And there it is, pls take him off our hands Firenze :bow: love him but hes a mental midget


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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:07 pm

De Gea is finally back - signs for Fiorentina

@myesyats hard to see anyone taking him off your hands and you will have to give him a big payday anyway from the deferred wages, its impossible for us - we have Mainoo, no way to lineup with both, if not for that I'd be all over wanting him. Maybe Pool would be interested? nobody else
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Post by Myesyats Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:32 pm

Firenze wrote:De Gea is finally back - signs for Fiorentina

@myesyats hard to see anyone taking him off your hands and you will have to give him a big payday anyway from the deferred wages, its impossible for us - we have Mainoo, no way to lineup with both, if not for that I'd be all over wanting him. Maybe Pool would be interested? nobody else
Yehh i aint even getting my hopes up, he's definitely not even going to listen to any offers even if he's transfer-listed. Who would on that contract? Can't blame him.

I don't really mind him staying but these wages are not even close to his performance as of late

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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:05 pm

maybe Arsenal would be interested? hope not, they're chasing Merino iirc, wouldnt like to see FDJ there, but yeah seems to be Barca obsessed so don't think he will entertain moving anyway

Bissaka left out of squad for tomorrow's match, confirmed to pretty much be gone to West Ham - German journos saying De Ligt and Mazraoui is still happening in the next couple days 100%
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:59 pm

De Light and Mazraoui done deal to Utd
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Post by Firenze Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:23 pm

Onana
Dalot De Ligt Martinez Shaw
Ugarte Mainoo
Amad Bruno Rashford
Zirkzee

Onana
Mazraoui Maguire Yoro Amass
Casemiro Rabiot
Antony Eriksen Garnacho
Hojlund

we need to shift Mctominay and Lindelof, obviously Yoro is injured and will get tons of gametime when he's back, I expect us to line up with Casemiro and Ugarte in tough games lol

I'm not convinced by Hojlund and Zirkzee to produce the goals like that, I think we will struggle there this season unless Rashford suddenly remembers how to be a footballer (I also expect Rashford to dropped as a rotation player early on in the season tbh)

I dont actually think we would sign Rabiot, he would expect to be a starter

anyway, its an improvement on last season but again I expect we will struggle massively for goals again
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:32 pm

Onana
Mazraoui - De Ligt - Lisandro -
De Jong - Amrabat - Eriksen
Antony -

ETH getting closer to fielding an ex Ajax 11
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Post by Myesyats Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:21 pm

farfan wrote:Have any of the returning La Masia graduates worked out for Barça in recent years? Fabregas, Eric Garcia, Romeu, Bellerín... all duds to varying degrees

The ones who were good to begin with worked out, those we weren't didn't

Pique, Alba, Fabregas worked out imo. Guys like Romeu or Bellerin were never world class so it was no surprise that they failed

Olmo seems to be in the first category on paper at least

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:57 pm

Vibe wrote:Onana
Mazraoui - De Ligt - Lisandro -
De Jong - Amrabat - Eriksen
Antony -

ETH getting closer to fielding an ex Ajax 11
It's incredibly he is still given a say on who to get. When he leaves it's going to be the hardest job on earth ridding the club of all the Ajax/Eredivisie players
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Post by Arquitecto Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:08 pm

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De Gea to Fiorentina in one of the summer's most surprise moves.

Exciting move given Varane is now in Como
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Post by Myesyats Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:06 pm

Good things come to those who wait 🙏



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