Darwin Núñez

+16
Arquitecto
Helmer
M99
Nishankly
futbol_bill
Doc
Thimmy
Hapless_Hans
Kaladin
Mr Nick09
S
Myesyats
halamadrid2
The Demon of Carthage
Glory
Casciavit
20 posters

Page 2 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by S Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:36 pm

I have already debunked that myth that Pool need to sell to buy.

Since 2018-19,  Pool and City have had a similar net spend. If Pool are selling to buy, then so are City. Their sale of Ferran Torres to Barca practically financed the Haaland deal.

Net spend (figures in Euros)

2018/19
Pool - €141M
City - €21M

2019/20
Pool - (-€34M)
City - €89M

2020/21
Pool - €66M
City - €95M

2021/22
Pool - €59M
City - €40M

Total over 4 seasons:

Pool - €231M

City - €245M

All figures as per transfermarkt

And yet here we are constantly reminded by these sly Pool fans that they compete financially, they have no money etc

There isn't that big a difference in wages between both clubs either

No doubt City have been serious offenders of FFP in the past but if you look at their financials, they're spending well within their means unlike QSG that seem to have created their own rules of FFP.

Very few clubs have the ability to spend €100M on a single player. Now Pool have joined the club so it's very cringeworthy to complain about other clubs' spending or to paint a picture that they can't compete financially.

S
Ballon d'Or Contender
Ballon d'Or Contender

Posts : 28409
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by futbol_bill Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:26 pm

I don’t grt the constant bashing of Liverpool.

They have the best or at least a top 3 coach.
They have had a phenomenal year that no team can match even if they didn’t grab top price in the competitions they were in.
Their lineup competes with any team out there.
And they are doing the rebuilding with sound financial practices.

Note - i also think city is in excellent shape, but we all know that with Pep’s obsessiveness, the oil backers will provide more funding if offset sales can’t be achieved regardless of FFP and that really is the difference between the two clubs.
futbol_bill
futbol_bill
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 5828
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Glory Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:54 pm

The difference being Liverpool have earned their right to spend as compared to City and Pep who has the luxury to throw as much as they want until it sticks. They were careful initially when Klopp came on, slowly achieved success and only then started to flex. Gotta respect them for that. So unless Liverpool has some major money flops from hereon, bashing them for spending is a bit idiotic even for a rival fan I guess.

Glory
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Manchester United
Posts : 6193
Join date : 2013-07-18
Age : 32

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Arquitecto Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:21 pm

Man the amount of people here salty about our transfer of Darwin is pretty hilarious Laughing

Wew
Arquitecto
Arquitecto
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : Real Sociedad
Posts : 11680
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:38 pm

Don't think the guy is going to be particularly great
Hapless_Hans
Hapless_Hans
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 33946
Join date : 2013-09-17

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:53 pm

I have some serious reservations with scoring statistics when it comes to Portugal... for every Radamel Falcao, you have a Seferovic, Jackson Martinez, Bas Dost, etc.

It will be very interesting to see how he does at Liverpool.  Wish him the best frankly.  Liverpool are (mostly) not complete idiots with their transfers lately so you have to give him a chance.
sportsczy
sportsczy
Ballon d'Or Contender
Ballon d'Or Contender

Club Supported : Marseille
Posts : 20644
Join date : 2011-12-07

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Nishankly Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:03 am

Surag sounds like Pep, can you please find the wages for Mane and Salah also since we so rich? Poor Milly took a pay cut to stay, surely you can find something in the 1 year you skipped where City spent 200M and Liverpool spent what -10M in 17-18? Don't know, Surag is the boss, he draws the line and that's where we stop the analysis, does not matter what happened before or after or during. Why did we lose Gini? Why are not we paying him?

Salah and Mane should be on 400k a week no, why are they not resigning? Why is Nunez who is 85M signing on your paper but poor child is paltry on 100k a week after taxes while Haaland on 50M is still on 400k a week. Finances are a myth for Liverfool. yes boo hoo LFC fans.
Nishankly
Nishankly
Spicy Curry

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 20783
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 28

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Helmer Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:10 pm

@S, what an intelligent post and brilliant contribution to this thread.
Comparing Haaland deal and Nunez deal in terms of wages and hidden agent fees is enough to show that Liverpool will never be able to match City or the likes of Utd in terms of spending power. That is exactly the reason we lost Gini, will lose Mane soon and Salah the next season. This obviously influences our pitch performance when we are forced to sell our players in their prime. In an ideal situation, if we had the same spending power, we should have let go the likes of Origi+Minamino+Ox and still keep Mane, Salah, Jota, Diaz, Firmino, Nunez. I don't see City selling a desired player in their prime to sign Haaland, for example.

Helmer
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Liverpool
Posts : 9769
Join date : 2012-08-15

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Helmer Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:30 pm

Also, I had read an article before few days where it showed City's net spend was 950m which is close to 1bn where as Liverpool's net spend was 387m, in last decade.

Helmer
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Liverpool
Posts : 9769
Join date : 2012-08-15

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Nishankly Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:24 am

It's literally the same like for ex hypo: 'Hey, look at Real after Galacticos but not after 2005!, They signed for 200M but in 2005 but after the fact they established their first 11 from that spree let's remove those years for the our analysis and voila from 2006, hey! their net spend was equal to Valencia who made one signing per window in the later years, so Valencia has no say" rofl
Nishankly
Nishankly
Spicy Curry

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 20783
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 28

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Nishankly Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:41 am

Helmer wrote:Also, I had read an article before few days where it showed City's net spend was 950m which is close to 1bn where as Liverpool's net spend was 387m, in last decade.


Does not matter, the comparison starts from when they want! Hope we pay Salah 300k a week to shut these dumb shits up so that they can sleep at night.
Nishankly
Nishankly
Spicy Curry

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 20783
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 28

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:06 pm

I mean Salah's getting 225k a week you think you can't muster up another 75? lol, you can but you just dont want to, you rather let him go and find another talent because that's your model but you can definitely afford to pay him 75k more per week.

Myesyats
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : RO Blank
Posts : 17030
Join date : 2015-05-03
Age : 23

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by futbol_bill Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:51 pm

Myesyats wrote:I mean Salah's getting 225k a week you think you can't muster up another 75? lol, you can but you just dont want to, you rather let him go and find another talent because that's your model but you can definitely afford to pay him 75k more per week.

You just don’t get sound financial practices. You don’t pay what the player is demanding especially the top paid one. If you pay him more, you’ll have to increase everyone else. That’s how Barca got in trouble, giving in to Messi’s yearly demand for more. You can’t increase anyone without considering the salary load vs operating income. And certainly you can’t have ONE player taking the majority of the salary load.
futbol_bill
futbol_bill
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 5828
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:11 pm

Messi was earning 1m per week so such an outlier is not really comparable to a 50 or 70k increase. At Liverpool VVD and Thiago are like on 200-220k per week so a potential golden ball contender like Salah at 270-300k is not outrageous or anything.

at Man City only KDB is on 400k, Grealish and Sterling on 300k and the rest is comparable to Liverpool, in fact Liverpool's payroll is higher overall Laughing

Man City total payroll: £129,836,000
Liverpool total payroll: £137,358,000

Myesyats
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : RO Blank
Posts : 17030
Join date : 2015-05-03
Age : 23

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by futbol_bill Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:36 pm

You’re still not getting it! You are comparing salaries (not actual club salary paymentsI) to man city and relative market comparison! What needs to be compared to the full actual salary load relative to club’s operating income. I.e. you can bet that man city’s operating income is bigger than Pool’s
futbol_bill
futbol_bill
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 5828
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Lucifer Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:36 am

That's a lot of money, hope he evolves.

Lucifer
The Last Cat Hater.

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 8317
Join date : 2015-06-16
Age : 32

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Kaladin Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:24 pm

S wrote:I have already debunked that myth that Pool need to sell to buy.

Since 2018-19,  Pool and City have had a similar net spend. If Pool are selling to buy, then so are City. Their sale of Ferran Torres to Barca practically financed the Haaland deal.

Net spend (figures in Euros)

2018/19
Pool - €141M
City - €21M

2019/20
Pool - (-€34M)
City - €89M

2020/21
Pool - €66M
City - €95M

2021/22
Pool - €59M
City - €40M

Total over 4 seasons:

Pool - €231M

City - €245M

All figures as per transfermarkt

And yet here we are constantly reminded by these sly Pool fans that they compete financially, they have no money etc

There isn't that big a difference in wages between both clubs either

No doubt City have been serious offenders of FFP in the past but if you look at their financials, they're spending well within their means unlike QSG that seem to have created their own rules of FFP.

Very few clubs have the ability to spend €100M on a single player. Now Pool have joined the club so it's very cringeworthy to complain about other clubs' spending or to paint a picture that they can't compete financially.


“We won’t buy €100 million players”

*Sign Nunez for €100 million.

“We won’t pay out huge wages”

*Salah signs £350k a week deal.”

Clown club, good on Mane bouncing from that discriminatory administration, absolutely scandalous what he was earning there considering his contributions in comparison to his peers.

Despicable club
Kaladin
Kaladin
Stormblessed

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 24494
Join date : 2012-06-28
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm

Laughing

Myesyats
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : RO Blank
Posts : 17030
Join date : 2015-05-03
Age : 23

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by S Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:59 am

So only Ronaldo and KDB earn more than Salah in the PL

Whatever happened to their coveted 'wage structure' lol

So all in all, it's looking like another summer where Pool will  have a higher net spend than City

Now they also have a player who is paid on par with the highest paid player at City

Still underdogs, still can't compete financially tho....
S
S
Ballon d'Or Contender
Ballon d'Or Contender

Club Supported : Juventus
Posts : 28409
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 30

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Kaladin Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:59 pm

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 FXzgmfxUYAMgNCN?format=jpg&name=medium
Kaladin
Kaladin
Stormblessed

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 24494
Join date : 2012-06-28
Age : 29

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:34 pm

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 1f602

Mr Nick09
Mr Nick09
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 31588
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:42 pm

Sounds made up... surely they talk about the fees before official faxes are sent?
BarrileteCosmico
BarrileteCosmico
Admin
Admin

Club Supported : Barcelona
Posts : 27662
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 32

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Myesyats Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:43 pm

I thought they ended up paying 80m not 100m?

Myesyats
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : RO Blank
Posts : 17030
Join date : 2015-05-03
Age : 23

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Nishankly Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:03 pm

Yeah, if in euros then €75m upfront going up to €100m if all clauses are met. Big money for someone so raw.

What you read Myeyes is the number in pounds which is £64m rising to £85m.
Nishankly
Nishankly
Spicy Curry

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 20783
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 28

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Myesyats Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:51 pm

Thanks for the clarification

Risky business indeed.

Myesyats
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : RO Blank
Posts : 17030
Join date : 2015-05-03
Age : 23

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by BarcaLearning Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:25 am

So do ppl think hes a flop in the making or will be success? Cant cant but feel he will be no where near as good as Mane/Firmino...?
BarcaLearning
BarcaLearning
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Barcelona
Posts : 7408
Join date : 2011-12-08

Back to top Go down

Darwin Núñez - Page 2 Empty Re: Darwin Núñez

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum