Darwin Núñez

I have already debunked that myth that Pool need to sell to buy.

Since 2018-19,  Pool and City have had a similar net spend. If Pool are selling to buy, then so are City. Their sale of Ferran Torres to Barca practically financed the Haaland deal.

Net spend (figures in Euros)

2018/19
Pool - €141M
City - €21M

2019/20
Pool - (-€34M)
City - €89M

2020/21
Pool - €66M
City - €95M

2021/22
Pool - €59M
City - €40M

Total over 4 seasons:

Pool - €231M

City - €245M

All figures as per transfermarkt

And yet here we are constantly reminded by these sly Pool fans that they compete financially, they have no money etc

There isn't that big a difference in wages between both clubs either

No doubt City have been serious offenders of FFP in the past but if you look at their financials, they're spending well within their means unlike QSG that seem to have created their own rules of FFP.

Very few clubs have the ability to spend €100M on a single player. Now Pool have joined the club so it's very cringeworthy to complain about other clubs' spending or to paint a picture that they can't compete financially.

I don’t grt the constant bashing of Liverpool.

They have the best or at least a top 3 coach.
They have had a phenomenal year that no team can match even if they didn’t grab top price in the competitions they were in.
Their lineup competes with any team out there.
And they are doing the rebuilding with sound financial practices.

Note - i also think city is in excellent shape, but we all know that with Pep’s obsessiveness, the oil backers will provide more funding if offset sales can’t be achieved regardless of FFP and that really is the difference between the two clubs.

The difference being Liverpool have earned their right to spend as compared to City and Pep who has the luxury to throw as much as they want until it sticks. They were careful initially when Klopp came on, slowly achieved success and only then started to flex. Gotta respect them for that. So unless Liverpool has some major money flops from hereon, bashing them for spending is a bit idiotic even for a rival fan I guess.

Man the amount of people here salty about our transfer of Darwin is pretty hilarious

Wew

Don't think the guy is going to be particularly great

I have some serious reservations with scoring statistics when it comes to Portugal... for every Radamel Falcao, you have a Seferovic, Jackson Martinez, Bas Dost, etc.

It will be very interesting to see how he does at Liverpool.  Wish him the best frankly.  Liverpool are (mostly) not complete idiots with their transfers lately so you have to give him a chance.

Surag sounds like Pep, can you please find the wages for Mane and Salah also since we so rich? Poor Milly took a pay cut to stay, surely you can find something in the 1 year you skipped where City spent 200M and Liverpool spent what -10M in 17-18? Don't know, Surag is the boss, he draws the line and that's where we stop the analysis, does not matter what happened before or after or during. Why did we lose Gini? Why are not we paying him?

Salah and Mane should be on 400k a week no, why are they not resigning? Why is Nunez who is 85M signing on your paper but poor child is paltry on 100k a week after taxes while Haaland on 50M is still on 400k a week. Finances are a myth for Liverfool. yes boo hoo LFC fans.

@S, what an intelligent post and brilliant contribution to this thread.
Comparing Haaland deal and Nunez deal in terms of wages and hidden agent fees is enough to show that Liverpool will never be able to match City or the likes of Utd in terms of spending power. That is exactly the reason we lost Gini, will lose Mane soon and Salah the next season. This obviously influences our pitch performance when we are forced to sell our players in their prime. In an ideal situation, if we had the same spending power, we should have let go the likes of Origi+Minamino+Ox and still keep Mane, Salah, Jota, Diaz, Firmino, Nunez. I don't see City selling a desired player in their prime to sign Haaland, for example.

Also, I had read an article before few days where it showed City's net spend was 950m which is close to 1bn where as Liverpool's net spend was 387m, in last decade.

It's literally the same like for ex hypo: 'Hey, look at Real after Galacticos but not after 2005!, They signed for 200M but in 2005 but after the fact they established their first 11 from that spree let's remove those years for the our analysis and voila from 2006, hey! their net spend was equal to Valencia who made one signing per window in the later years, so Valencia has no say"

Helmer wrote:Also, I had read an article before few days where it showed City's net spend was 950m which is close to 1bn where as Liverpool's net spend was 387m, in last decade.

Does not matter, the comparison starts from when they want! Hope we pay Salah 300k a week to shut these dumb shits up so that they can sleep at night.

I mean Salah's getting 225k a week you think you can't muster up another 75? lol, you can but you just dont want to, you rather let him go and find another talent because that's your model but you can definitely afford to pay him 75k more per week.

Myesyats wrote:I mean Salah's getting 225k a week you think you can't muster up another 75? lol, you can but you just dont want to, you rather let him go and find another talent because that's your model but you can definitely afford to pay him 75k more per week.

You just don’t get sound financial practices. You don’t pay what the player is demanding especially the top paid one. If you pay him more, you’ll have to increase everyone else. That’s how Barca got in trouble, giving in to Messi’s yearly demand for more. You can’t increase anyone without considering the salary load vs operating income. And certainly you can’t have ONE player taking the majority of the salary load.

Messi was earning 1m per week so such an outlier is not really comparable to a 50 or 70k increase. At Liverpool VVD and Thiago are like on 200-220k per week so a potential golden ball contender like Salah at 270-300k is not outrageous or anything.

at Man City only KDB is on 400k, Grealish and Sterling on 300k and the rest is comparable to Liverpool, in fact Liverpool's payroll is higher overall

Man City total payroll: £129,836,000
Liverpool total payroll: £137,358,000

You’re still not getting it! You are comparing salaries (not actual club salary paymentsI) to man city and relative market comparison! What needs to be compared to the full actual salary load relative to club’s operating income. I.e. you can bet that man city’s operating income is bigger than Pool’s

That's a lot of money, hope he evolves.

S wrote:I have already debunked that myth that Pool need to sell to buy.

Since 2018-19,  Pool and City have had a similar net spend. If Pool are selling to buy, then so are City. Their sale of Ferran Torres to Barca practically financed the Haaland deal.

Net spend (figures in Euros)

2018/19
Pool - €141M
City - €21M

2019/20
Pool - (-€34M)
City - €89M

2020/21
Pool - €66M
City - €95M

2021/22
Pool - €59M
City - €40M

Total over 4 seasons:

Pool - €231M

City - €245M

All figures as per transfermarkt

And yet here we are constantly reminded by these sly Pool fans that they compete financially, they have no money etc

There isn't that big a difference in wages between both clubs either

No doubt City have been serious offenders of FFP in the past but if you look at their financials, they're spending well within their means unlike QSG that seem to have created their own rules of FFP.

Very few clubs have the ability to spend €100M on a single player. Now Pool have joined the club so it's very cringeworthy to complain about other clubs' spending or to paint a picture that they can't compete financially.

“We won’t buy €100 million players”

*Sign Nunez for €100 million.

“We won’t pay out huge wages”

*Salah signs £350k a week deal.”

Clown club, good on Mane bouncing from that discriminatory administration, absolutely scandalous what he was earning there considering his contributions in comparison to his peers.

Despicable club

So only Ronaldo and KDB earn more than Salah in the PL

Whatever happened to their coveted 'wage structure' lol

So all in all, it's looking like another summer where Pool will  have a higher net spend than City

Now they also have a player who is paid on par with the highest paid player at City

Still underdogs, still can't compete financially tho....

Sounds made up... surely they talk about the fees before official faxes are sent?

I thought they ended up paying 80m not 100m?

Yeah, if in euros then €75m upfront going up to €100m if all clauses are met. Big money for someone so raw.

What you read Myeyes is the number in pounds which is £64m rising to £85m.

Thanks for the clarification

Risky business indeed.

So do ppl think hes a flop in the making or will be success? Cant cant but feel he will be no where near as good as Mane/Firmino...?