If we win CL and La Liga
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If we win CL and La Liga
Would this season by Benzema be considered the best ever in Real Madrid history? Consider his teammates in the equation... I'd say this would be the least talented double winner, if it happens.
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Of the years I've followed RM it would be pretty huge. But I'd have liked a treble before considering him the best ever. So my answer is no
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I don't think least talented is the right description for this team. From what I can tell, our standout issue is that our players either have yet to hit their prime, or their peak, physical condition was sometime in the past.
We still have two of the most talented midfielders in football, they evidently just aren't anywhere near as consistent as they used to be. At least, I assume that is the explanation behind why they both blow hot or cold throughout the course of a season these days.
We still have two of the most talented midfielders in football, they evidently just aren't anywhere near as consistent as they used to be. At least, I assume that is the explanation behind why they both blow hot or cold throughout the course of a season these days.
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I would say regardless of what this team wins, that Benzema’s year will go down as the most impressive in all my years (over 60 years) in following RMadrid. (And this is coming from a guy that for a long long time did not recognize him as elite).
He not only is solely leading this very thin squad, he is mentoring several of them. His talent, for example heading, has increased with age. To be doing what he is doing at this late stage of his career is simply astonishing.
For sure there is other talent out there, but also keep in mind, the off days or off moments that most of them have. Look how thin the squad is. Really only 16 players. We used to rave about how Ronaldo or Ramos would dig deep in key moments to make something happen! Well guess who is doing that regularly now!
When I look back on past trophies, whether it be di stepano era, galácticos or zidane coaching era, all of those teams were talented and dominating. This current team is a way off the top of pack talent like it those eras and are consistently underdogs. For sure, we are winning la liga, because both Barca and Atleti have had problems this year, but look at how they had to claw out the results, again led by Benz.
He not only is solely leading this very thin squad, he is mentoring several of them. His talent, for example heading, has increased with age. To be doing what he is doing at this late stage of his career is simply astonishing.
For sure there is other talent out there, but also keep in mind, the off days or off moments that most of them have. Look how thin the squad is. Really only 16 players. We used to rave about how Ronaldo or Ramos would dig deep in key moments to make something happen! Well guess who is doing that regularly now!
When I look back on past trophies, whether it be di stepano era, galácticos or zidane coaching era, all of those teams were talented and dominating. This current team is a way off the top of pack talent like it those eras and are consistently underdogs. For sure, we are winning la liga, because both Barca and Atleti have had problems this year, but look at how they had to claw out the results, again led by Benz.
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I wouldn't go that far. I would actually say you underestimate our prowess sports .
But I will go no further. We need to progress more first before coming to conclusions.
But I will go no further. We need to progress more first before coming to conclusions.
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May i add that this team's journey in 2021-22 represents Benz's career.
He's come back from everything:
- Mourinho wanted him gone and ridiculed him publicly
- Madrid fans criticized him harshly (including myself for a couple of seasons)
- France kicked him off of NT in 2014
Always criticized, under-appreciated and, frankly, disrespected.... yet he never gave up. Never lost belief. And he overcame all of it. What a mentality.
He's come back from everything:
- Mourinho wanted him gone and ridiculed him publicly
- Madrid fans criticized him harshly (including myself for a couple of seasons)
- France kicked him off of NT in 2014
Always criticized, under-appreciated and, frankly, disrespected.... yet he never gave up. Never lost belief. And he overcame all of it. What a mentality.
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I think the majority on here treat him like they do any other player or manager - glorified to no end whenever things have gone his way, discarded as a fraud/trash whenever they haven't. And let's be fair, we can all see how he's now reached a point where he's looking consistently brilliant. Let's enjoy what he brings to the table right now, and for once, not act as if he's always been unfairly treated throughout a really long career with more ups and downs than most players have had. I used to be his biggest fan on here. I didn't stop arguing in his favor for no reason. He deserves a lot of the criticism that's been directed towards him, as well as the praise. A career is the accumulated sum of both ups and downs, and the longevity speaks in his favor. I think that's the most important thing.
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Im sorry but I have to say that I find this season of Benz more impressive in terms of individuality than Ronaldos 16/17 season. Ronaldo had the one of the greatest supporting cast ever. Benz has an aging midfield (albeit with great backups) and perma injured forwards and kids as his attacking partners. Maybe its because I have been a Benz fan since he arrived and defended him even through his crappy seasons, and was never a huge fan of Ronaldo although I loved his performances for the club. But yeah, Ill get shit on for saying it but I just think this season of Benzema is just the most impressive individual season I've seen from a Real Madrid player
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I agree
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For me if I agree to what sports says, I would put down the efforts of the team and that is something I'd rather not do. Least talented potential double? We definitely got the talent. Whether the potential of said talent is realized is a whole other story but from the looks of things, potential is surely revealing itself and it's been great.
I said it before that we can achieve a lot if vinicius and rodrygo step it up to help Benz. I was expecting later but thankfully it came much sooner.
To make it to the cl final... you need luck yes but you also need talent, and most importantly performances. We made it. If we ain't perceived as a talented team, what does that make the rest of Europe? A bunch of jobbers and posers cosplaying an elite football team? Well, city and psg are but the rest were good teams.
Benzema returning to Benz prime I reckon has been our greatest boon.
Benzema was always great but to think he returned to near his full power at his current age. Truly infathomable.
I said it before that we can achieve a lot if vinicius and rodrygo step it up to help Benz. I was expecting later but thankfully it came much sooner.
To make it to the cl final... you need luck yes but you also need talent, and most importantly performances. We made it. If we ain't perceived as a talented team, what does that make the rest of Europe? A bunch of jobbers and posers cosplaying an elite football team? Well, city and psg are but the rest were good teams.
Benzema returning to Benz prime I reckon has been our greatest boon.
Benzema was always great but to think he returned to near his full power at his current age. Truly infathomable.
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What Benz did in CL against PSG, City and Chelsea, i have never seen a player do that. sure Ronaldo and Messi had similar seasons which they carried their team but to this extent?
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