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Post by El Gunner Mon 01 Feb 2021, 02:03

Sixers don't run nearly enough offense to get Seth more looks
The guy is the second most efficient shooter from 3 of all time, give him the shots goddammit!!

Russell is playing looks like you'll get points and steals @Vibe

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Post by CBarca Mon 01 Feb 2021, 02:22

El Gunner wrote:Art has 112 threes and counting Shocked holy mother of cow
trading Hield for Bridges is an L though Laughing what a terrible trade, Luca walked off with a smile on his face with that one


I think Mikal Bridges is a better player lol

But it depends on what you want. Clearly Art doesn't need to have the # of 3's Hield provides, and Hield doesn't do much else. Mikal brings in some threes to mitigate the loss of 3's and then adds steals, blocks, assists etc
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Post by Warrior Mon 01 Feb 2021, 02:48

Bridges is a low risk high reward player

While Buddy Hield can be sketchy in FG% and turnovers but he brings more to the table. Especially if you are in need of 3s. As current opponent i have Art's situation clear in my mind and i rate this as a good trade for him.
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Post by Warrior Mon 01 Feb 2021, 02:53

I've had close beefs before but this one is particularly tough on the nerves Laughing

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Post by Warrior Mon 01 Feb 2021, 04:26

There it is. Another week, another L. If i can't beat afk Giannis next week i might as well delete my club.

Congrats Art, nice team. Certainly top 3 if not the very best.

Next beef in 2 months, watch out, my revenge will be merciless. By then PJ Washington will reach his peak and Olynyk will be on the waiver wire... in other words you stand no chance
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Post by Vibe Mon 01 Feb 2021, 06:25

Congrats on the beefctory, close but still a big win

My boys weren't going down easy. KD bailed you out last minute
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Post by El Gunner Mon 01 Feb 2021, 09:38

CBarca wrote:
El Gunner wrote:Art has 112 threes and counting Shocked holy mother of cow
trading Hield for Bridges is an L though Laughing what a terrible trade, Luca walked off with a smile on his face with that one


I think Mikal Bridges is a better player lol

But it depends on what you want. Clearly Art doesn't need to have the # of 3's Hield provides, and Hield doesn't do much else. Mikal brings in some threes to mitigate the loss of 3's and then adds steals, blocks, assists etc

epic standard CB talking out of his arse just to contradict EG

Hield vs Bridges
.395 - .495 FG
.880 - .813 FT
4.1 - 2.3 3ptm
16.2 - 14.8 pts
4.1 - 5.4 reb
2.9 - 1.9 ast
1.1 - 0.6 stl
0.4 - 1.0 blk
1.9 - 0.6 TO

5 cats to 4 for Hield so Bridges certainly isn't "the better player lol" Rolling Eyes

i had Hield last year so i would know he is historically a borderline top 50 player, and he gives amazing production in 3s and good, solid, consistant production in pts and steals

Bridges is a yo-yo player, there's nothing i dislike more in fantasy than such players. So yea Bridges certainly isn't "the better player lol"

i get that Hield might have been underperforming early this season and that played a roll in Art underselling him, but the man didn't have any niggling injuries as far as i know, and such a great shooter as him was always going to get it together sooner rather than later. He was trending upward in the last few games before Art traded him. It's all good and well if Art didn't need the 3s and wanted to cash in on him but im afraid Art mistimed the trade for his own good, because he could have gotten a lot more/a lot better than yo-yo Bridges out of it.
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Post by El Gunner Mon 01 Feb 2021, 09:45

Vibe wrote:Congrats on the beefctory, close but still a big win

My boys weren't going down easy. KD bailed you out last minute

Justin Holiday why you have 3 steals last day of beef Clubber

...like i said, the motto of Oakland City is "always finding a way no matter the circumstances"

i've had 4 tied categories so far this season now lol, and three 6-2 beeftories
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Post by El Gunner Mon 01 Feb 2021, 09:47

in other news Luca and I have officially separated ourselves from the rest of the league Laughing Ghost really dropped the ball last week. I still think he and Art have threatening teams though, maybe Ghost just doesn't match up well against Luca
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Post by Art Morte Mon 01 Feb 2021, 12:43

Since I won, it was a really good beef, Warrior. And I did luck out on the FG% on the final day.

Re: Hield v Bridges - Hield is probably the better player, but he's got one great category (threes) and two pretty good categories (points and steals). He barely gets to the free throw line, so his great FT% doesn't matter all that much. I'm hoping I won't miss his threes and points too much (I had the highest in both cats this week) and that Bridges will provide at least better FG% and blocks. Hopefully he will pick up his stealing, he's 1.4 career but only 0.6 this season. Anyway, I think it's a sensible trade for me.
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Post by Freeza Mon 01 Feb 2021, 12:55

Hield is so bad in FG% that Bridges is automatically worse. And having a wing who can block, shoot and doesn't turn the ball over is great. And he's efficient as hell too.

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Post by El Gunner Mon 01 Feb 2021, 13:21

ahh another EG contrarian

Hield FG% over the past few seasons:
2016-17: 48%
2017-18: 44.6%
2018-19: 45.8%
2019-20: 42.9%
over the last two weeks: 48%
plus Hield shoots it more than Bridges so if he maintains his current form, somewhere down the line he'll even out with Bridges in that category, if not overtake him

and so far this season Hield has been a better stealer than Bridges, and there's nothing that suggests Bridges will turn it around in that category

but as always im the mad mad mad wrong one

it's okay Art, you made your decision, let's leave it
i should focus on my own team and hope Clarkson for Murray doesn't backfire on me Laughing
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Post by CBarca Tue 02 Feb 2021, 00:30

Ummm Bridges was one of the best at steals for the entirety of last season. There is every single reason to believe it may go back up.

The comparisons you made are an objectively bad way to look at things. It's not just who produces more per cat but the magnitude of production per cat, i.e. look at the z-scores.

And based on those stats, Bridges is better. And I didn't even look at those ahead of time, I went off gut but thanks for making me want to to prove my point. It's not just pure z-scores either, but those blocks come from out-of-position. To have a wing who can score efficiently, not turn the ball over, and get steals + blocks, that's valuable, as Freeza said. It's also why Derrick White is an awesome pickup even if he doesn't score more than 14ppg and doesn't get a shit ton of assists (both of which could go up based on the fact that he's likely gonna go up in mins this year once his injury is finally gone).

Regardless, it's hilarious you'd come at me based on a throwaway comment about a trade that doesn't even involve you. I also said "it depends on what you want" and that since Art has a great 3 point shooting team, he probably doesn't need Hield that bad.
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Post by El Gunner Tue 02 Feb 2021, 01:23

Oh my god, you really are a clown aren't you.

I just said as much in the post above that Hield's production is more on average and if he keeps up his current form, he'll even out with Bridges and eventually maybe even surpass him. The only reason Bridges currently has a higher rank is because he has been more efficient, don't you think i understand that?

At the end of the day one rebound / assist / steal is still a raw score and that's what adds up in the categories, so my stats provided aren't "objectively bad" when you are just looking at the numbers game.

Also the Suns are a completely different team from what they were last season, you can clearly see that in their style of play. Also the reason why everyone's production has been more equally shared in that team. So you can't just assume that Bridges steals will go up because we're already 20 games into the season and there have been no signs of that.

And lastly, you've got it wrong CZelda, I was the one who simply gave my opinion that Art undersold Hield and then you came at me. So pls i don't have time for this anymore. I just said as much that the trade doesn't even involve me in my previous post. Get off my dick.
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Post by CBarca Tue 02 Feb 2021, 04:02

Alright

Anyway, Zion & B. Clark tryna make me regret this trade. Couple of nice send off games from the boys. I love Clark's game. He started the year rough but is really coming into his own. I might very well be the loser on this one if Zion sustains the stocks + Clark plays how he can.
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Post by El Gunner Tue 02 Feb 2021, 10:38

Aaron Gordon straight into IL Laughing

starting to slightly worry about my team, things are gunna get tough if Jerami Grant goes into Covid protocol smoking
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Post by Vibe Tue 02 Feb 2021, 11:13

Really wanted to pick up Griffin but looking at the schedule there are a lot of b2b's for Detroit and Blake is gonna miss a game of every b2b.

My boy Royce O'Neale is better.

It seems Habs hustled a couple of you idiots, WTF Laughing Did you really give away Murray and White for Gordon and Clarkson? I just see this now :facepalm:
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Post by El Gunner Tue 02 Feb 2021, 11:26

im tanking assists, Clarkson is more consistent and provides better 3s at a more efficient rate
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Post by Warrior Tue 02 Feb 2021, 12:49

Gordon already working on the sabotage job Molenation

I had accepted i'd probably have to trade him for a symbolic 2 week sig on GoalLegacy before that offer came. Rest of the players are a good fit for both of us.
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Post by Vibe Tue 02 Feb 2021, 13:59

You rekt him, you can stop pretending now Laughing

I remember defending LG when he gave me Kyrie and Warren cause I knew I swindled him hard
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Post by Vibe Tue 02 Feb 2021, 14:42

It's funny cause LG usually has a shit team and now he's had a good team and he rekt it Laughing

While Habs is usually a good team, now it was a shit team and you pulled something out of the bag
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Post by Warrior Tue 02 Feb 2021, 15:08

I told you i'll be ready for next week

It's our only beef this season
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Post by Vibe Tue 02 Feb 2021, 15:20

In that case I've already set my lineups for next week, must start practicing early in order to rek you as I do every year
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Post by Art Morte Tue 02 Feb 2021, 15:25

People arguing about trades like they bought a washing machine off facebook and it turned up in worse condition than advertised. I love it.
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Post by Warrior Tue 02 Feb 2021, 16:19

Correction based on reality

Vibe wrote:In that case I've already set my lineups for next week, must start practicing early in order to rek you as I've done 1 time out of 4



I just hope your team is healthy. Would not want you to be SAD all week then mock me at the first glimpse of hope.
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Post by Vibe Tue 02 Feb 2021, 16:45

52 games, set your lineups so I can see how many games you have :coffee:

This will be a glorious beeftory for my little Kobe's, and my 4th beeftory against you in general Proud You won once by a rebound or something like 2 years ago
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