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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:51 pm

Trincao isn't all that great is he

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:53 pm

Koeman making history

First time in 9 years Sevilla have been able to get a point here
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Post by Perucho21 on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:00 pm

This barca side aint all that special. I've been mislead from the first few games.

Just need Odriozola to be fit and deal with Fati's pace. I'm extremely confident in our chances for the clasicos.
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Post by Jay29 on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:14 pm

Some commentators/pundits are bigging up Sevilla for a title challenge, but no chance imo.

De Jong may come good (he's started well at least) but the frontline doesn't have enough about it to elevate Sevilla to that level. En-Nesyri sucks, Suso and Munir are nice technical players but have no acceleration to trouble good defences, Ocampos we don't know yet if he can replicate his form from last season, etc.

The defence and midfield are strong, and Lopetegui's approach has been very solid. Enough for 3rd with Atletico being so goal shy still but no more than that imo.
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Post by AlphaBeast on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:19 pm

@AlphaBeast wrote:Barcelona are such bunch of clowns Laughing

Trin-Cow is just another Tello, a player barcelona overhyped like hell but nothing came out of it.

Trin-Cow & Ansu Fatso will follow the following long list:

Bojan

Cuenca

Tello

Delefeou

Affeley

Kerrison



All massively overhyped by barca, but nothing happened Laughing



& I rest my Case.
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Post by Myesyats on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:22 pm

One shot on goal by Sevilla.... To be honest this is the best defensive display from Sevilla in recent years, poor up front but defensively they were immense. Usually they've been very disorganized at the back.

To be fair Koeman threw the game away by starting Griezmann again. He's like a ghost.
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Post by Jay29 on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:24 pm

That's Lope's Sevilla in a nutshell tbh. Defensively very good, run further and harder than they have in years, keep the ball well, but can't score. They're tougher to beat but unless it's an EL game they haven't got the quality to make a difference in the big games.
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Post by Myesyats on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:24 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Trincao isn't all that great is he

Patience... Hasn't even played a full game yet. Won't ever pick up the pace if he keeps coming on for 20 minutes towards the end.

Still did more than Griezmann, made a good cross in and almost scored.

I expect him to be starting ahead of Griezmann soon.
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Post by alexjanosik on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:29 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Those balls from Messi to Alba are so obvious. Why are players still unable to defend them


It doesnt work at this level anymore. It worked in Valverde's second season in the league and that too not at CL. Was found out in the CL. Didn't work last season in the league and flopped in the CL. It's a one trick hack which any team up to the 4th division of any of the top 10 leagues can cut off.

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Post by Doc on Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:36 pm

It's a vast improvement from Sevilla as last season, collected 4 at the Nou Camp without reply.

Meanwhile, all the doom and gloom predicted and Barcelona is looking decent. Wanna say good but I can't allow myself to give Koeman too much props.
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Post by BarcaLearning on Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:34 am

This was the first real test for us, and it was pretty predictable, both sides happy with the draw.

Sevilla I also was thinking they might have an outside chance this season, since the top 3 all having their issues atm, while they are improving and in ready condition already, but from Jay's mention if they struggle to score, they gonna need a lot of consistency and luck to pull it off, otherwise probably Real win it again.

Barca we miss Suarez already and it clearly showed. No more magic up front, Fati and Coutinho have been good vs the lesser teams, but vs the top teams he doesnt get the space to shine and shoot so often. Griezmann continues to struggle, Dembele not even featuring now that hes fit?

At least my fears of not making top 4 have gone Razz We are decent enough for that, no chance for trophies though. Positive note is Dest who really looks to have a lot of flair and speed and can play left and right. If he settles a definite upgrade to Roberto hopefully, although yet to see his defensive side...





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Post by danyjr on Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:38 pm

Sevilla just won EL, gave Bayern a run for their money in the Super Cup final too. They are a very good side and I'm happy that Numpecucki has started to redeem himself as a decent coach. But I agree with Jay29 on the shortcomings of this Blanquirrojos team. They will easily get top 4, but to win La Liga, as mediocre as Liga has become in the past couple of seasons, you need a superstar or two. Something Sevilla lack compared with the Madrid teams and Barça.
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Post by Harmonica on Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:34 pm

Where's dany, Griezmann just skied another 1on1. In another news Cadiz beat Refdrid in Bernaleo.
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Post by danyjr on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:28 pm

@Harmonica wrote:Where's dany, Griezmann just skied another 1on1.
I'm not surprised any more. A mental midget one-trick pony. He might lose his spot at France NT too.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:46 pm

0-1 at home vs Cadiz eh Laughing

Zidane is a trash coach plain and simple, always said so, it was true and is true
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Post by danyjr on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:58 pm

Not sure if I've seen both Madrid and Barcelona this low at the same time in my life. Should have watched the United game instead.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:59 pm

As opposed to that no name Bayern coach who steers his team to a 4-1 loss. Zidame has never let that happen no matter how bad his team has played. Stay in your lane!
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Post by BarcaLearning on Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:00 pm

Didnt watch Real, so not sure who was worst, us or them, lol~ I do guess its us though, since I believe in Zidane much more than what we got atm Razz

Anyway, this is the real welcome to Koeman, completely outplayed and tactically couldnt do anything the way Getafe played, and they were pretty average in attack too, but we were so bad in midfield and especially attack, no chemistry. Not surprising though since no Suarez and Alba the two most that combined with Messi by far. Instead a rusty Dembele and the over hyped Petri, we created nothing.

I feel for players like De Jong and Griezmann, they are asked to play and do things thats just not natural to the game still.

Vs weaker opponents in the league we probably still be able to scrap through, but vs proper teams like this, we are hopeless.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:02 pm

Next week is going to end in the first goalless draw since forever

We haven't got a trusted scorer and Barca have only Messi
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:16 am

I really miss the days when La Liga was the best league in the world. Now, it sucks. My god, it sucks!

And just to be clear and fair to the rest, I'm mainly targeting Barça and Madrid with my criticism. I believe the rest, particularly Sevilla, have been able to maintain their incredible consistency that made them win multiple trophies in Europe.

But the big two? They really have plummeted to new lows, and I really can't see them winning the CL again or even reaching the latter stages of the competition any time soon with the squads and policies they have.

I understand that football goes always through cycles and those two have enjoyed a lengthy period of dominance in Europe. However, I personally attribute a large part of their success to their lucky stars that gave them the two best and most consistent players of this generation in their prime to win them trophies that otherwise wouldn't be able to win.

And now, I really can't help but wonder, will Madrid and Barça ever win a CL again without a Ronaldo or a Messi in their squad? I guess only time will tell.
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Post by Myesyats on Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:19 am

@halamadrid2 wrote:Next week is going to end in the first goalless draw since forever

We haven't got a trusted scorer and Barca have only Messi

I remember a goalless clasico somewhere around a year ago, no?


Griezmann needs to be hanged in the main square
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Post by M99 on Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:23 am

This is Atletico's best chance to win the league. Madrid's gonna get Mbappe and others next year and Barca's gonna kick out Bartomeu. They need to give it their all this season.
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Post by RealGunner on Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:43 pm

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Post by danyjr on Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 pm

Barça are a team of betas. How can you expect anything else from them when Messi is their captain Laughing
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Post by Myesyats on Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:45 pm

What is there to say really?

The fact that Messi remains as captain after explicitly and publicly saying he wants to get the fuck out says all about this pathetic team
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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:30 am

Why is Koeman obsessing over Depay as if he's Ronaldo or Messi

If Barca buy him, he'll be another one they can't shift in a few seasons
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