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Re: 2020/21 Premier League Discussion
So the proposal is quite extensive. Some of it actually sounds okay, but there're plenty of red flags, too.
Shameless copied from Reddit:
Context for all this: the UK government are pushing for the Premier League to bail out the EFL clubs who have been hit severely by the pandemic due to no fans being allowed in the grounds. Fans were due to return at the start of this month but gov walked back those plans after the increase in cases.
In effect, the big six clubs of the PL (United, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal) are willing to do that BUT only if they can gain more voting power. As "long-term shareholders", anything they agree in can be passed through, which is immediately sounds dubious to me. They'd be able to block takeovers from occurring for any of its members which is basically anti-competition.
On the other hand, the changes to parachute payments, the pledges to contribute more revenue to the EFL, hell even the changes to the pyramid structure sound okay. Certainly something needs to be done to address the widening wealth gap between the PL and EFL and protect clubs from going belly up.
At the same time, the other 14 PL clubs will look at this and see it as an attempt to decrease their own revenues. "Closing the gap" essentially means ensuring there are six clubs every year who get All The Money, and 14 others who get even less than they were.
In short, it's a power grab. They'll agree to do all these nice and sensible things for the other clubs in exchange to being able to undisputed rule the roost and have nobody disrupt them.
Shameless copied from Reddit:
Rescue Fund
An immediate rescue fund of £350,000,000 to the English Football League and Football Association for lost revenues of 2019/20 and 2020/21
For the EFL:
£50,000,000 to cover 2019/20 EFL matchday losses;
Up to £200,000,000 available to cover 2020/21 EFL matchday losses;
Money will be advanced to the EFL from increased future revenues.
For the FA:
£100,000,000 in grants, made up of £55,000,000 to cover operational losses, £25,000,000 for clubs below the EFL, £10,000,000 for the Women’s Super League and Championship, £10,000,000 for grassroots
Funds to be made available by the Premier League through loans guaranteed by the clubs.
Infrastructure Plan
Infrastructure funding of 6% of Premier League gross revenues to be distributed annually to the top four divisions.
Each club will receive £100 per seat annually.
Infrastructure funding can only be used for stadia and fan experiences.
Fan Charter
A cap of £20 on Premier League away ticketing (adjusted every 3 years for inflation)
Subsidised Premier League away travel
Safe-standing sections at the discretion of each club, subject to government permission.
Away sections must provide at least 3,000 or 8% of capacity, whichever is higher.
Annual Good Causes
An increase of 66% in annual contributions to good causes in England.
A total of 5% of Premier League gross income to be contributed annually to good causes and grassroots football, to include focus on combatting racism and discrimination.
Redistribution of Media & Sponsorship Revenues (three possible options)
Option A: 50% equal, 25% current-year merit, 25% previous 3-year merit
A greater emphasis will be placed on merit in both the Premier League and the Championship with half of payments reflecting positions over the past four years.
Option B: Current Premier League distribution scheme (50% equal, 25% by merit and 25% by facility fees) but newly promoted clubs must holdback £25m of first two years in the Premier League to mitigate risk of relegation.
Option C: Current Premier League distribution scheme, but newly promoted clubs receive 25% of their allocated Facility Fees for first 3 years in league.
For all above options:
Excluding parachute payments and including new infrastructure payments, solidarity from the Premier League to the English Football League would increase from 4% to 25%.
Premier League and English Football League domestic and international media rights will be collectively sold by the Premier League.
Compensation payments to The EFL and FA, infrastructure monies and related borrowings are deducted prior to determination of distributable revenues.
Pyramid structure
The Premier League, originally formed to house 18 clubs,would be reduced from 20 to 18 clubs.
This would free up the calendar and, with fewer teams and an end to parachute payments, provide additional resources to the EFL.
Reduction from 38 to 34 rounds of matches will also aid the national team.
Championships, League One and League Two to all be made up of 24 clubs
Promotion and relegation
Premier League relegation. At least 2 clubs automatically relegated annually
Championship promotion: 1st and 2nd automatically promoted.
Club finishing 16th in the Premier League joins four team Championship play-off tournament with teams who finish 3rd, 4th and 5th. Semi-finals would be 16th place PL team vs 5th place Championships team nad 3rd place Championship team against 4th place Championship team.
Championship relegation – 3 clubs
Leagues One and Two: promotion of 3 clubs. Relegation of 4 clubs
Club media
All Premier League clubs have the exclusive rights to sell eight live matches a season directly to fans via their own digital platforms in all international territories.
All Premier League and Championship clubs allowed to show limited in-match highlights on their own digital platforms.
No more than 27 games per club will be shown live in UK per season
Saturday 3pm broadcast blackouts remain to help protect EFL attendance
Other competitions
League Cup and Community Shield discontinued;
Establishment of a new independent league for the Women’s professional game, not to be owned by the Premier League or The Football Association;
FA Cup replays retained but there will be no replays in the winter break;
Premier League begins later in August and pre-season friendlies extended;
No more than two weeks between the end of the Premier League and the Champions League final;
Premier League clubs must participate at least once every five years in the Premier League summer tournament.
Other structural changes
Elite Player Performance Plan funding is included in the revenue received by EFL clubs;
Clubs in League One and below are no longer required to have an academy;
Clubs permitted to have up to 15 players out on loan domestically at any time, including up to four in a single English club. Introduction of one month loans for players under 23, an ability to recall loanees in the event of managerial change, incentivise loanee clubs through payments based on future performance or sale of loaned players;
Remove the scholarship clause permitting players to terminate at any stage.
Cost Controls & Related Party Income
Financial Fair Play rules that align with Uefa to ensure English clubs are not at a disadvantage in Europe;
A £50 million cap per annum on all related party transactions and a more stringent ‘related party’ definition;
Premier League executive provided with full access to clubs accounting information to investigate cost control
A joint Premier League and Championship body will monitor cost controls.
The English Football League will introduce hard salary caps.
Governance
All material matters relating to the business of the Premier League will require shareholder approval, except that the Board will decide whether to approve a new owner;
All votes will require more than two-thirds majority to be approved;
All other votes for the operation of the Premier League will be one-club, one-vote except those provided for under ‘Special Voting Rights’
Special Voting Rights
Each of the nine clubs who, at any time of determination, have been members of the Premier League continuously for more seasons than other clubs will be considered a ‘Long-Term Shareholder’.
Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can cause to be adopted without approval from the other clubs:
i) the election or removal of the CEO and/or a member of the board;
ii) amendments to cost control rules and regulations;
iii) contracts for the sale of league broadcasting and media rights
Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can prevent from being adopted resolutions to:
i) change the distribution rights of the sponsorship, commercial and broadcasting rights sold centrally;
ii) change the distribution to clubs from other PL centralised rights or assets
c) alter in a material way the nature of the competition
Two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can veto the Premier League board’s approval of a proposed new owner.
Context for all this: the UK government are pushing for the Premier League to bail out the EFL clubs who have been hit severely by the pandemic due to no fans being allowed in the grounds. Fans were due to return at the start of this month but gov walked back those plans after the increase in cases.
In effect, the big six clubs of the PL (United, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal) are willing to do that BUT only if they can gain more voting power. As "long-term shareholders", anything they agree in can be passed through, which is immediately sounds dubious to me. They'd be able to block takeovers from occurring for any of its members which is basically anti-competition.
On the other hand, the changes to parachute payments, the pledges to contribute more revenue to the EFL, hell even the changes to the pyramid structure sound okay. Certainly something needs to be done to address the widening wealth gap between the PL and EFL and protect clubs from going belly up.
At the same time, the other 14 PL clubs will look at this and see it as an attempt to decrease their own revenues. "Closing the gap" essentially means ensuring there are six clubs every year who get All The Money, and 14 others who get even less than they were.
In short, it's a power grab. They'll agree to do all these nice and sensible things for the other clubs in exchange to being able to undisputed rule the roost and have nobody disrupt them.
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Re: 2020/21 Premier League Discussion
American owners of Liverpool and ManU wanting to americanize the PL by giving more power to the big clubs, not exactly surprising, but I hope this doesn't go through. More money from the PL to the Football League makes sense, though, but I doubt that's going to happen unless the big clubs get their power grab in exchange.
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No idea who was in charge when Americans fought for independence. Should have never let it happen.
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To clarify, the proposal was made by Rick Parry, the chairman of the EFL.
The Premier League have already said they aren't in favour of it.
The Premier League have already said they aren't in favour of it.
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Jay29 wrote:To clarify, the proposal was made by Rick Parry, the chairman of the EFL.
The Premier League have already said they aren't in favour of it.
I'm still a bit confused about it, since the BBC article says: Under the proposals, led by Liverpool and Manchester United, the English top flight would be cut to 18 teams.
So, the proposal is designed by LFC and ManU and Rick Parry likes it and therefore is backing it? Because the proposal certainly doesn't sound like it's an EFL thing.
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Regardless, Parry is endorsing it heavily.
The EFL are in desperate need of cash because a worrying number of clubs are on the brink thanks to fans not being allowed in to stadiums. So for him, the whole PL governance thing doesn't matter since his primary concern is a wealthier and healthier league pyramid.
Also, the Premier League and EFL haven't go on well recently, so perhaps that's why the EFL chairman has gone to to the big clubs directly.
The EFL are in desperate need of cash because a worrying number of clubs are on the brink thanks to fans not being allowed in to stadiums. So for him, the whole PL governance thing doesn't matter since his primary concern is a wealthier and healthier league pyramid.
Also, the Premier League and EFL haven't go on well recently, so perhaps that's why the EFL chairman has gone to to the big clubs directly.
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Art Morte wrote:American owners of Liverpool and ManU wanting to americanize the PL by giving more power to the big clubs, not exactly surprising, but I hope this doesn't go through. More money from the PL to the Football League makes sense, though, but I doubt that's going to happen unless the big clubs get their power grab in exchange.
Italian and German owners of Juve and Bayern are the ones who pushed the implementation of a NFL/NBA type closed super league the hardest.
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yea that proposal sounds SHIT
they need to find another way to save EFL clubs
they need to find another way to save EFL clubs
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any salary cap sounds dodgy AF too if it's in-house and domestic and there's still higher rules and regulations coming down from UEFA and FIFA muddying the waters
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/14/liverpool-man-united-forced-forced-abandon-project-big-picture/
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That was short lived
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How about Project go fuck yourselves
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MASSIVE day of football. Title clash between Arsenal, City, Liverpool and Everton.
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Maneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Lol how is that not a red
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Pickford escaping a blatant red and pen because of an offside. The rules of the game can be weird sometimes.
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Jay29 wrote:Pickford escaping a blatant red and pen because of an offside. The rules of the game can be weird sometimes.
Can you two foot someone and get away with it if it's offside?
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RealGunner wrote:Jay29 wrote:Pickford escaping a blatant red and pen because of an offside. The rules of the game can be weird sometimes.
Can you two foot someone and get away with it if it's offside?
couldn't have been a penalty because of the offside, but punishable offense can still be addressed under the circumstance
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Man what happened to Liverpool's GOAT defense? have they managed to keep 2 CSs all season?
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Man what happened to Liverpool's GOAT defense? have they managed to keep 2 CSs all season?
one season wonder
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Man what happened to Liverpool's GOAT defense? have they managed to keep 2 CSs all season?
Higher line, individual mistakes.
Myesyats wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Man what happened to Liverpool's GOAT defense? have they managed to keep 2 CSs all season?
one season wonder
2 seasons if you made an effort to read a bit longer
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Both Richarlison and Pickford should be banned for 3 games minimum.
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