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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:38 am

this lad rekt Verratti and PSG today, great young talent.

Obviously a precocious athlete but he looks very skilled too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_80wWT1JB8

and this is the game vs strasbourg, he was very good too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u7kBsQEvQY


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Post by Doc Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:02 pm

I don't know who are the coaches at Rennes or their scouting network but it may seem they are top tier in both categories for some time.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:16 pm

Well of talents in ligue 1 is bottomless
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Post by Casciavit Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:28 pm

All these midfield talents, but Matuidi will still be starting in 4 years. Deschamps. Proud
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:01 pm

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Post by Doc Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:15 pm

Versus Lyon too Proud
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:26 pm

hmm RM his next destination?

Casemiro is young though, not sure Camavinga would want to rot on the bench while Casemiro plays 99.99% of every minute available
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:41 pm

he is gonna be a box to box in a few years, he is too skilled to be a player that sits in front of the defense
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Post by RealGunner Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:07 am



Where to next?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:36 pm

Normally Madrid next summer, with a year left on his deal. Rennes did not want him to leave this summer so he is not renewing his deal.

He seems quite good
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:07 pm

first two games of the season, he already has 1 assist, 1 goal, 17 years old. He looks great in the double pivot, taking more chances going forward this season than he did last year, they recruited Nzonzi for that.



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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:36 pm

So he is not a successor to Casemiro after all. Meh we have a gazillion CMs and a young B2B already. The search for a Casemiro successor continues
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Post by Doc Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:40 pm

I never actually saw him as any successor to Casemiro but someone who can play alongside him. In any case, still a huge fan of his talents and Madrid wanting to sign him makes the world of sense. He looks the part big time.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:44 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:So he is not a successor to Casemiro after all. Meh we have a gazillion CMs and a young B2B already. The search for a Casemiro successor continues
He is 100% not a "Casemiro back up" lol. He is way more than that, and it's fuck to watch such a precocious player doing so well at the top already.

I think finding a mediocentro that is good at defending and has great ball skills is extremely difficult. You typically don't have both, but when you choose to play a 3 man midfield, that's ideally what you want.

We are still going to try signing Camavinga though, he is just too elite of a talent to pass up. The way i look at it is that he can help in allowing us to play with 2 midfielders if we want, as opposed to 3, which is something we are not doing extensively today.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:35 pm

Thats all i was hearing last season how he was the natural successor to Casemiro. Now that, thats cleared up we should be focusing on getting a cover for Casemiro, not try to get yet another CM.

Look, I like talented players as much as the next guy but central midfield is hardly an area we lack quality in. I'd rather they go fishing in the French market for a RW
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:42 pm

As Nich mentioned, Nzonzi moved him up, which is great.  For Rennes (and that's the key here), he's too good technically compared to the others not to get him involved in an advanced position.  For a club like Madrid, maybe.  He's not a DM.  But he could play a lot lower if he comes.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:47 pm

you make it sound like it's his fault for not being the type of player you had in mind lol.

we have plenty of options for RW already (Kubo, Brahim, Odegaard, Rodrygo, Asensio), we dont have a lot box to box players like Camavinga in the squad and we saw what difference Valverde playing in midfield made for us.

I am actually hoping Valverde can get more minutes deputizing for Casemiro this season. That's how he shined with Castilla initially.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:57 pm

No.  I'm saying that, at lesser clubs, players that end up playing lower once they move up... play higher because the lesser clubs need them to.  

There were a lot of those in France such as (recently) Ndombele, Bakayoko, Kondogbia, etc.

I just hope he doesn't see himself as more a AM and forgets to play defense like some of the others.  He's a B2B and CM.   If he becomes a more forward playing player, it has to be proven way beyond just 2 games to start a season. Become great at what you're going to be the most valuable and useful at... and then bring in all the bells and whistles.

Just a word of caution on my part.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:47 am

Him and Valverde are perfect for 4231 double pivot and Odegaard is perfect for that AM role ahead of them

Just hope we don’t miss out on him as he’s probably the only young french talent I really rate lol (maybe not, I also like Saliba and Caqueret Laughing )
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Post by Casciavit Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:30 am

Another 4-4-2 CM.

If the 2010s were signified for the rise of the goal scoring wide forward, then the 2020s will be known for the ball carrying CM.

Press resistant players with an engine who can carry the ball, but also lack that final pass, and are best in a midfield two rather than three.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:59 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Him and Valverde are perfect for 4231 double pivot and Odegaard is perfect for that AM role ahead of them

Just hope we don’t miss out on him as he’s probably the only young french talent I really rate lol (maybe not, I also like Saliba and Caqueret Laughing )

Really?  You don't rate Aouar, Kounde, Caqueret, Gouiri, Aouchiche, etc.?  There's a TON of good talent coming up.  Gouiri is the one to keep an eye on that is relatively unknown btw... he plays for Nice.
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:20 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Him and Valverde are perfect for 4231 double pivot and Odegaard is perfect for that AM role ahead of them

Just hope we don’t miss out on him as he’s probably the only young french talent I really rate lol (maybe not, I also like Saliba and Caqueret Laughing )

Really?  You don't rate Aouar, Kounde, Caqueret, Gouiri, Aouchiche, etc.?  There's a TON of good talent coming up.  Gouiri is the one to keep an eye on that is relatively unknown btw... he plays for Nice.


Boubakary Soumaré from Lille OSC - uhhh sooooooo good player i would to see anyone from midfield of our team go and have them replaced with him

should play in top EPL, or German club

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:22 pm

Soumare has been on the bench for Lille for months now. His reputation hasn't waved though, people dont watch Ligue 1. This may sound shocking but if you want to sign a player from Lille today, that should be Renato Sanches
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:30 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Soumare has been on the bench for Lille for months now. His reputation hasn't waved though, people dont watch Ligue 1. This may sound shocking but if you want to sign a player from Lille today, that should be Renato Sanches


i admit i dont watch ligue 1 not on regular basis atleast. i did watch CL games and he was the only player out there i liked most ; unless he had his drop of form or what not i feel like he can stil grow to live up expectations as one of the brightest talents coming out from france

soumare was valued at 40 million by lille but thats just their business model i guess.
i heard that he has done well renato but given how he had really hard time fitting in big club, we will have to see how he progresses.


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Post by Valkyrja Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:33 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Him and Valverde are perfect for 4231 double pivot and Odegaard is perfect for that AM role ahead of them

Just hope we don’t miss out on him as he’s probably the only young french talent I really rate lol (maybe not, I also like Saliba and Caqueret Laughing )

Really?  You don't rate Aouar, Kounde, Caqueret, Gouiri, Aouchiche, etc.?  There's a TON of good talent coming up.  Gouiri is the one to keep an eye on that is relatively unknown btw... he plays for Nice.


I don't even rate Mbappe that highly, let alone Aouchiche or Gouiri:lol:

Kounde is another Lenglet level player

Caqueret and Aouar are legit though, I like both

Camavinga is the cream of the crop, we have to secure his signing and let him play at Rennes until 2022

He's at his best in a midfield two (4231/442) from the little I've seen of him, just as Valverde is. Odegaard is at his best playing behind the striker. If they develop properly, we are set in midfield for a decade. TBH, I prefer this midfield structure to the more static and flat Modric-Casemiro-Kroos legendary midfield, but we're a long way away from that Laughing
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