Re: 2018/2019 Premier League Discussion Part III

by Jay29 Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:55 am

Spurs' net debt set to rise to £600m after taking out another loan:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-new-stadium-wembley-pitch-opening-when-ready-spending-debt-vs-manchester-city-a8608226.html

by Nishankly Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:41 am

Jay29 wrote:Spurs' net debt set to rise to £600m after taking out another loan:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-new-stadium-wembley-pitch-opening-when-ready-spending-debt-vs-manchester-city-a8608226.html

How do you think this can be covered?

They made no signings this season, was this a factor? I just thought they got bested in the market.

by BusterLfc Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:52 pm

It's normal. New stadium is an investment that will pay off over a longer period of time.. Do you think they would build a stadium just to go bankrupt? Laughing

by BusterLfc Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:51 pm

by BusterLfc Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:14 pm

by chemicalboy99 Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:20 pm

BusterLfc wrote:

Patently made up bollocks.

City have conceeded 10 league goals since Van Dyke made his premiership debut for Liverpool on January 22nd.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/premier-league-epl-results-latest-table-20-january-2018/

https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-table/2017

by Hapless_Hans Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:31 pm

chemicalboy99 wrote:
BusterLfc wrote:

Patently made up bollocks.

City have conceeded 10 league goals since Van Dyke made his premiership debut for Liverpool on January 22nd.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/premier-league-epl-results-latest-table-20-january-2018/

https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-table/2017

I think our supposed 27 goals aren't quite correct either lol

fake news

by BusterLfc Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:54 pm

chemicalboy99 wrote:
BusterLfc wrote:

Patently made up bollocks.

City have conceeded 10 league goals since Van Dyke made his premiership debut for Liverpool on January 22nd.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/premier-league-epl-results-latest-table-20-january-2018/

https://www.skysports.com/premier-league-table/2017

Shit my bad then Laughing

, don't remember where the pic was from

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:13 am

Nishankly wrote:
Jay29 wrote:Spurs' net debt set to rise to £600m after taking out another loan:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-new-stadium-wembley-pitch-opening-when-ready-spending-debt-vs-manchester-city-a8608226.html

How do you think this can be covered?

They made no signings this season, was this a factor? I just thought they got bested in the market.

stadium build was always going to be expensive, and the costs went up by like 100m because of the Brexit driven pound devaluation.

by The Demon of Carthage Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:43 am

They also have taken out £400m in bank loans, which are repayable over a five-year period. So that's already £80m going out from the club's pockets every year.

Then you have the initial ballpark figure of £400m of global construction cost that jumped to £750m following Brexit and then to £850m. So really if you think about it, their wage structure should be capped at a basic £100,000 a week.

If you factor all that in, not only should Tottenham struggle and struggle badly to land A-list players with that wage structure, they'll also have a hard time keeping their best players from leaving without giving them a raise. Not to mention that you won't see them bidding anywhere close to £100m for any player anytime soon.

Once the stadium is built though and all their debts are paid, they'll be stronger than ever before, financially and football-wise.

So I don't think they were bested out in the market, but more like they didn't even bother trying because they knew already they had no chance with their weakened financial muscle.

by BusterLfc Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:32 am

They just raised Kane's wage to 200,000£ and Alli's to 150,000£ and Eriksen is supposed to get something similiar to these two

by Nishankly Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:58 am

BusterLfc wrote:It's normal. New stadium is an investment that will pay off over a longer period of time.. Do you think they would build a stadium just to go bankrupt?

That's not what i meant ffs
Wanted to know if it continues to affect their transfers because they have a solid squad that requires building before some jump ship.

by Nishankly Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:59 am

The Demon of Carthage wrote:They also have taken out £400m in bank loans, which are repayable over a five-year period. So that's already £80m going out from the club's pockets every year.

Then you have the initial ballpark figure of £400m of global construction cost that jumped to £750m following Brexit and then to £850m. So really if you think about it, their wage structure should be capped at a basic £100,000 a week.

If you factor all that in, not only should Tottenham struggle and struggle badly to land A-list players with that wage structure, they'll also have a hard time keeping their best players from leaving without giving them a raise. Not to mention that you won't see them bidding anywhere close to £100m for any player anytime soon.

Once the stadium is built though and all their debts are paid, they'll be stronger than ever before, financially and football-wise.

So I don't think they were bested out in the market, but more like they didn't even bother trying because they knew already they had no chance with their weakened financial muscle.

What i wanted to know, thanks

by Nishankly Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:00 am

Arsenal Liverpool this week :bow:

Should be a draw imo

by BusterLfc Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:57 am

Nishankly wrote:Arsenal Liverpool this week

Should be a draw imo

Arsenal with a bigger net spend than us, NO EXCUSES on saturday IMO

by BusterLfc Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:32 pm

It's only a shame that we finally build a proper team and we have to try compete with this City team Laughing

City broke record points last year and I think they will be even stronger this season. They now have Bernardo Silva who is like a new signing at CM, probably their best player this season so far. They have Bernando Silva, D.Silva and De Bruyne to compete for 2 spots, and De Bruyne is just coming from injury so they will only improve from here. They have last season's attack + Mahrez on top of that. They also have Mendy instead of Delph this season. And Laporte is now fully adapted to the league and system he looks like a rock so far they only conceded 3 goals and none of them were scored by an attacker or midfielder.

How can anyone compete with them? Laughing

I think it will be really hard for anyone to chase them this season

I rate us more to win the CL than PL, because we are a european team we love to play CL and even when we had weak teams we always overachieved in the CL, we can beat anyone over 2 legs, but over 38 games I don't think any team in the world can compete with City's depth in the team. Their team is built to win league titles

by Unique Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:13 pm

are people telling me that spurs agreed to a deal where by the construction firm can just keep adding million and millions to the price every week. bit stupid dont you think. if it were me i would have agreed a total price for the build and that way if it over runs it eats into the profit of the construction firm and not me.

by BarcaLearning Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:25 pm

For the Arsenal fans, what do you think about Aaron Ramsey's situation? I just read hes not wanted anymore, while just short while ago he was one of your best performers? I guess Emery just doesnt like him or something? Just strange to see such a key player let go by the club so quickly.

by El Gunner Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:38 pm

When was he one of our best performers?
Ramsey peaked for half a season in 2013/14 or was it 14/15 hmm

and ever since then he has just popped up again with important goals in our FA Cup success which increased his hype.

He is a decent player overall, but he is nowhere near what we need. His level is for a midtable PL team, or high-end Serie A teams.

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