Re: Coutinho to Barca

by futbol Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:41 am

Kaladin wrote:
futbol wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Dat feel when Barca fans are so starved of actual great players that the think Coutinho is actually going to make them better than their standard QF exit

Our standard CL QF exist was mainly due to Disneymar. We crashed out in the quarters in 3 of his 4 years at Barca. We also made it tight in the league with Disneymar. Before him we walked it with 100 points and after him we're again walking it in unprecedented fashion, 14 points ahead of Madrid, and that with our marquee signing injured the whole time 'til now.

With the added creativity of Dempélé and Coutinho and the 4-dimensional footballing mind of Valverdad we will dominate for 10 straight years, especially now that Madrid are *bleep* with Ronaldo's decline and luck running out.

Pls deal with.

Stahp with the terrible nicknames, you sound like a curated Harmonica.

Yeah lets pretend Neymar didn't single handedly drag your ass past PSG in one of the best comebacks ever.

Or that Luis Suarez is looking like Maxi Lopez this season

Revising history is fun

Single-handedly. rofl

Messi running through the entire Madrid team from midfield is single-handedly. Neymar scoring a penalty that someone else won and lumping a free-kick into the box with Roberto executing a hard outside of the foot finish is a lot of hot air.

by BarcaLearning Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:49 am

I dont like this.... another hugely expensive buy in such a short time... havent watched him enough, but I just dont get the confident feeling hes going to be all that for us?

Would have preferred Griezmann.

Position wise though, I dont ever think we would put him in midfield 3, that would be too imbalanced, so no idea how hes going to fit.

by Myesyats Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:03 pm

Coutinho has great potential and I believe around Messi/Busquets he will significantly improve. It's not a bad transfer, if the rumours are true. The price tag doesn't matter, Liverpool just spent a 100 on a CB.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:04 pm

The fact you consider Coutinho creative futbol means you'll be disappointed in him imo.

He's not good at creating for others, he's good at creating for himself. That's a key distinction which is quite important in terms of his potential success.

by Mr Nick09 Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:52 pm

Coutinho is injured again just in time for the transfer window Laughing

by Harmonica Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:33 pm

by futbol Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:43 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The fact you consider Coutinho creative futbol means you'll be disappointed in him imo.

He's not good at creating for others, he's good at creating for himself. That's a key distinction which is quite important in terms of his potential success.

I don't think Coutinho is a generational talent or anything and I was always against this signing 2 years ago when alex in the Barca section was hyping him up but he's certainly a young world class attacking midfielder who can dribble, create and score at a great level. He doesn't have to be Xavi. We're a different team now anyway and in 4-4-2 on the left side he would be immense. Also it's a myth that he's just a long-shot merchant. He creates reasonably well. I've watched him closer since we are linked with him.

Something like € 140 million + bonuses (easy bonuses like 50 appearances in a Barca shirt + CL qualification) would be ridiculous though. Just because Marketingmar bought himself out with the aid of state-backed oil money and English clubs make stupid deals doesn't mean we have to compete with that (we already did with "5 goals a season in Bundesliga Dembélé", but whatever).

€ 120 million without bonuses, take it or leave it. Maybe PSG will come next summer and bid € 200 million, then fair play to Liverpool.

by Nishankly Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Barcelona: We want Coutinho.
Liverpool: We won't sell.
Barcelona: We will pay whatever it takes!
Liverpool: He is not for sale.
Barcelona: Just name a price...
Liverpool: pic.twitter.com/YMPIRfno3B
— Andrew Yioupas (@Andrew_92c) January 2, 2018

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:39 am

About Coutinho. Barcelona will soon make an offer of €110+40. Chairman Bartomeu feels in debt to him for how hard he's trying to go to FCB. Their top players want him. LFC have changed their tone but have not put price to him. They will act when offer arrives. Which it will
— Guillem Balague (@GuillemBalague) January 2, 2018

sounds like a charity signing lol

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:40 am

Balague lol

If he really is signed for 150 :facepalm:

by RealGunner Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:48 am

Can't wait for the Coutinho vs Isco debates

by titosantill Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:33 am

as a Real Madrid fan, i like the move (if its true, i trust very little football media outlets if any these days). my liking the move has nothing to do with his football or anything like that. but from a madrid standpoint, we're miles behind in the standings, dembele will be returning, now coutinho, and they still have messi

the last thing that should be on flo's mind is hoping bbc encounters a miracle, and stays on forever. i understand in january we probably cannot get any of our targets, but flo should better not let anyone talk him into signing some scrub striker from mallorca during the summer, and telling him the squad is fine. we absolutely need talent in the summer (we need now, but we shot ourselves in the foot on this one)

hopefully this pushes flo to want to challenge and provide us with top talent, not scrubs as back ups nor wet behind the ears spanish "talent"

by Red Alert Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:16 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The fact you consider Coutinho creative futbol means you'll be disappointed in him imo.

He's not good at creating for others, he's good at creating for himself. That's a key distinction which is quite important in terms of his potential success.

You've clearly not watched him at all under Klopp lmao

He's actually finally become consistent.

You can go through all my posts, I would of said of told you to sell a couple of years ago for around 50m. Wouldn't sell him at 150 now. He's instrumental to how we play and he's grown into a mature player.

180+ or *bleep* off. He's way too valuable for us to lose, and I'm sick of clubs bending over to this *bleep* club after their pathetic attempts to sign players.

by rincon Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:51 am

110 for Dembele and 150 for Coutinho while smashing Madrid and winning the league in december.

Flo is gonna go hard this summer.

by Kaladin Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:33 am

15m on Oyarzabal and 20m on Kepa isn't going hard

by Myesyats Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:58 pm

Who cares if it's 100 or 150M these days lol doesnt matter if he brings in quality

by BORUSSIA!! Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:50 pm

I can't figure it out yet. Disregard the price but do people actually rate Coutinho as one of the best players in his position or what. I don't watch Liverpool enough to know.

by Valkyrja Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:59 pm

Kaladin wrote:15m on Oyarzabal and 20m on Kepa isn't going hard

The truth has been spoken. We can't compete in this market as far as I'm concerned. Looking at supposedly our best XI, the one that destroyed Jjuve in Cardiff, were all brought in before 2014.

Navas 10m in 2014
Carvajal 5m in 2013
Varane 10m in 2011
Marcelo 5m in 2006
Modric 30m in 2012
Casemiro 5m in 2013
Kroos 25m in 2014
Isco 30m in 2013
CR 95m in 2009
Benzema 35m in 2009

No player bought from 2014 onwards. Imagine getting generational midfielders for combined 55m. And people suddenly think we'll just splash 400-500m on 2 or 3 world class attackers. We are yet to enter this current market for world class players. To be fair, until last summer we didn't need too, but I don't think with the reported budget of 200m we can do much

by Luca Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:04 pm

Yeah, that's not true

Sold Di Maria for a nice profit, did the same with Morata, bought James for 60M in 2014 alone.

And you won the CL in the 3 of the last what, 5 seasons? Do you know how much revenue that generates?

You can absolutely compete. Just because you rather choose not to and remain loyal to a team that has accomplished more than anyone in that same span, doesn't mean you can't compete in the market

by BORUSSIA!! Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:11 pm

Real Madrid fans saying they can't compete in the current market? Laughing

what am I reading

by Luca Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:24 pm

BORUSSIA!! wrote:Real Madrid fans saying they can't compete in the current market? what am I reading

Its simply unreal

by CBarca Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:31 pm

Coutinho is a great player, Mole been hating since the early days but he's turned into one of the best AM's in the world. That he's stayed with Pool this long is shocking but also ab amazing display of loyalty

Can't wait to see him in a Barca shirt the (still think Eriksen is better tho)

by Firenze Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:34 pm

CBarca wrote:Coutinho is a great player, Mole been hating since the early days but he's turned into one of the best AM's in the world. That he's stayed with Pool this long is shocking but also ab amazing display of loyalty

Can't wait to see him in a Barca shirt the (still think Eriksen is better tho)

unreal display of loyalty? the first concrete interest in him was this summer and he was desperately trying to force a move through Laughing

by Myesyats Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:35 pm

BORUSSIA!! wrote:Real Madrid fans saying they can't compete in the current market? what am I reading

The sad part is that he's not joking Laughing

by Unique Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:45 pm

Liverpool should just sell coutinho to Barca and get it over and done with. But they should quote them a price that will make them shit.

by futbol_bill Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:02 pm

What am I missing here. Why go after a player in January that is CL tied? They haven't yet integrated their last big purchase into team, why try a second in same time frame especially when he can only play in half the games and the other competition is already secured!

I don't understand why do it now as opposed to next June!

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