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Can they do it? The Quintuple
Zidane's Madrid have won 2 trophies this season already in the Uefa Super Cup and the CWC. Is it possible for them to win the treble (Copa de rey, La LIga) and retain the CL along the way? Only one European team has ever won more than 4 major trophies in one season, Celtic iirc. If they win it where would that put them in history?
Would this be the greatest single season in football history?
Thoughts.
Would this be the greatest single season in football history?
Thoughts.
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Has never been done but obviously if there is one team that can do it, it's Real Madrid
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We have a few tough away games in the league left. If Villarreal get some points against Barca tonight then we can afford a few draws and still win the league. 6 points is too slim of a lead though at this moment in time.
In the Copa we are probably guaranteed a Quarterfinal spot after the lead frol the first leg. And if Bilbao can (please) go through next week then Atleti will be the only ones between us and the trophy. These smaller teams like Celta, Villarreal, Bilbao etc will rest many starters because they dont have a deep bench and alot of them are contending European trophies
CL chances are very slim. You have CL master Carlo prepping his Bayern for a powerful finish to their campaign, Barca will always be a contender no matter how many internal problems they have, CK might be the only chance of a trophy for Simeone (and a destiny in their fans' views), Juve also who have strengthened considerably are all contenders for the trophy. It depends alot on the draw too; I mean imagine Napoli > Leicester > Dortmund > whoever crossing my fingers ffs
In the Copa we are probably guaranteed a Quarterfinal spot after the lead frol the first leg. And if Bilbao can (please) go through next week then Atleti will be the only ones between us and the trophy. These smaller teams like Celta, Villarreal, Bilbao etc will rest many starters because they dont have a deep bench and alot of them are contending European trophies
CL chances are very slim. You have CL master Carlo prepping his Bayern for a powerful finish to their campaign, Barca will always be a contender no matter how many internal problems they have, CK might be the only chance of a trophy for Simeone (and a destiny in their fans' views), Juve also who have strengthened considerably are all contenders for the trophy. It depends alot on the draw too; I mean imagine Napoli > Leicester > Dortmund > whoever crossing my fingers ffs
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I'm not as pessimistic as Hala. We have a good shot at all three titles, but nothing is guaranteed.
If Zidane keeps building on what he has done, thus far (when you actually look at what has happened, the team and his coaching skills have progressively gotten better since he took over from Benitez), We could well achieve what Jibers has suggested and yes if that happens, it may well be the best team performance ever!! What to me is most impressive is his use of the entire team. Everyone except the practice goalie and Coentrao have made meaningful contributions. Most of the bench would be starters elsewhere. To me that was the biggest flaw of Carlo and Mourinho (in addition to his flawed character, LOL) in not using the squad they had.
However as most Madridistas now say' let's not count our chickens until they hatch.
If Zidane keeps building on what he has done, thus far (when you actually look at what has happened, the team and his coaching skills have progressively gotten better since he took over from Benitez), We could well achieve what Jibers has suggested and yes if that happens, it may well be the best team performance ever!! What to me is most impressive is his use of the entire team. Everyone except the practice goalie and Coentrao have made meaningful contributions. Most of the bench would be starters elsewhere. To me that was the biggest flaw of Carlo and Mourinho (in addition to his flawed character, LOL) in not using the squad they had.
However as most Madridistas now say' let's not count our chickens until they hatch.
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UCL is the only competition that I would say where that Quintuple would be quite hard to achieve. A lot of quality (duh) is still in that competition and I hardly doubt we would have the same "luck" of drawing teams where the club were better than (in terms of talent). Making it to the final would be something grand far less for winning it imo.
La Liga and CDR, well, the club has everything in it to win both. Honestly, should have won it under Carlo but whatever.
La Liga and CDR, well, the club has everything in it to win both. Honestly, should have won it under Carlo but whatever.
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Sure if the team can keep the momentum going until about march, then the players can get it done especially if rotations remains consistent, lastly the fluidity that zidane wants seems to be taking shape, needs bit more clarity and control, a strong finish to the is possible.
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All about the CL or can Sevilla be this seasons Atletico?
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Liga is secured, CL is their to lose, CdR - a piece of cake.
Yeah, they can.
Yeah, they can.
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Way too early to say anything. We should take it one game at a time all while keeping in mind that nothing is guaranteed and that we haven't won anything yet.
The league is about consistency, so if we remain consistent and keep on winning, mathematically speaking, we'll win. But we have to stay consistent and capitalize on every slip-up from our rivals. And I can't stress enough the importance of winning away games against the Sevillas, and Valencias of the league. Those are the games that win you the title.
The CL, however, is a different story because form usually goes out of the window, and luck plays a big part in it. It doesn't matter how strong you are, anybody can beat anybody. Same goes for the CdR.
Best thing to do is to remain humble and work hard until the very last second of the season. Also, we should not waste time thinking about trophies that we haven't won yet. Just keep our heads down, always give our all, and hopefully we win something in the end.
The league is about consistency, so if we remain consistent and keep on winning, mathematically speaking, we'll win. But we have to stay consistent and capitalize on every slip-up from our rivals. And I can't stress enough the importance of winning away games against the Sevillas, and Valencias of the league. Those are the games that win you the title.
The CL, however, is a different story because form usually goes out of the window, and luck plays a big part in it. It doesn't matter how strong you are, anybody can beat anybody. Same goes for the CdR.
Best thing to do is to remain humble and work hard until the very last second of the season. Also, we should not waste time thinking about trophies that we haven't won yet. Just keep our heads down, always give our all, and hopefully we win something in the end.
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Also, I remember people said the same thing about Carlo's Madrid when they went God Mode during October and November. But then, they ended up trophyless.
Nothing is guaranteed for the time being.
Nothing is guaranteed for the time being.
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Nope, they won't defend CL, so still 0 trebles for RM. They will surely win La Liga though.
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no they're too shit and incapable of doing such a feat that only barca can accomplish
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BORUSSIA!! wrote:no they're too shit and incapable of doing such a feat that only barca can accomplish
Barcelona have never accomplished such a feat
How can Barcelona accomplish it when they are not even in a position to do it
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It really depends by what form they are in the second half of the season and especially march/april.
Barca of 2010 was supposed to make it at this point of the season (I don't consider a sextuple if it occurs between two seasons, even if it occurs in the same year), same Bayern in January 2014, Real in Jan 2015 and Barca Jan 2016.
Usually teams that win the CL are the ones that gain momentum and peak in the second part of the season, and they do extremely well in the first half of the following year by riding this momentum, but falter in the second because it's "impossible" to maintain that level for almost two years in a row.
I wouldn't rule anything out as they haven't even peaked despite their unbeaten run, I'm sure they're capable to do that, but it will be extremely hard.
Barca of 2010 was supposed to make it at this point of the season (I don't consider a sextuple if it occurs between two seasons, even if it occurs in the same year), same Bayern in January 2014, Real in Jan 2015 and Barca Jan 2016.
Usually teams that win the CL are the ones that gain momentum and peak in the second part of the season, and they do extremely well in the first half of the following year by riding this momentum, but falter in the second because it's "impossible" to maintain that level for almost two years in a row.
I wouldn't rule anything out as they haven't even peaked despite their unbeaten run, I'm sure they're capable to do that, but it will be extremely hard.
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Katy Perry wrote:It really depends by what form they are in the second half of the season and especially march/april.
Barca of 2010 was supposed to make it at this point of the season (I don't consider a sextuple if it occurs between two seasons, even if it occurs in the same year), same Bayern in January 2014, Real in Jan 2015 and Barca Jan 2016.
Usually teams that win the CL are the ones that gain momentum and peak in the second part of the season, and they do extremely well in the first half of the following year by riding this momentum, but falter in the second because it's "impossible" to maintain that level for almost two years in a row.
I wouldn't rule anything out as they haven't even peaked despite their unbeaten run, I'm sure they're capable to do that, but it will be extremely hard.
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I would normally say that squad health and form of top players would dictate the odds... but we haven't lost a beat despite massive injuries and bad form so far.
Think about it. So far:
- Lost Bale to a long injury
- Both Benz and Ronaldo have been in piss poor form and battling injuries
- Modric was out quite a while injured
- Pepe was out for a long time injured
- Ramos missed a few due to injuries
- Casemiro had a long term injury
- Navas was in piss poor form until very recently
- Marcelo has been wildly inconsistent
We've been doing this with Ramos (mostly), Varane, Carvajal and Kroos as the only mostly reliable players this season. Everything else has been covered by club depth.
Now you're seeing that the squad is finally shaping up (other than Bale still being out).... and miracle of miracles, we're not only winning but doing it with style.
Really amazing.
Think about it. So far:
- Lost Bale to a long injury
- Both Benz and Ronaldo have been in piss poor form and battling injuries
- Modric was out quite a while injured
- Pepe was out for a long time injured
- Ramos missed a few due to injuries
- Casemiro had a long term injury
- Navas was in piss poor form until very recently
- Marcelo has been wildly inconsistent
We've been doing this with Ramos (mostly), Varane, Carvajal and Kroos as the only mostly reliable players this season. Everything else has been covered by club depth.
Now you're seeing that the squad is finally shaping up (other than Bale still being out).... and miracle of miracles, we're not only winning but doing it with style.
Really amazing.
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Btw regarding this
For me it would be on par with the other "greatest" seasons. In the end we're talking about 3 relevant trophies and imo if you win these 3 that's it. Super Cups are basically just the final friendlies before the season starts and the CWC is a joke. I mean we even declined half our entries because it was seen as a waste.
That being said it would be a treble AND they'd be the first team to defend the new CL (thanks to drug abusing Juve (: ) so obviously it would be a massive achievement anyway.
Anyway they didn't even finish on top of their CL group so calma.
jibers wrote:Would this be the greatest single season in football history?
For me it would be on par with the other "greatest" seasons. In the end we're talking about 3 relevant trophies and imo if you win these 3 that's it. Super Cups are basically just the final friendlies before the season starts and the CWC is a joke. I mean we even declined half our entries because it was seen as a waste.
That being said it would be a treble AND they'd be the first team to defend the new CL (thanks to drug abusing Juve (: ) so obviously it would be a massive achievement anyway.
Anyway they didn't even finish on top of their CL group so calma.
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You know what group stage glory means in CL... pretty much nothing other than the draw for the next round. Since we got Napoli, it actually meant nothing.
For some weird reason, we just had absolutely awful finishing in both Dortmund games. We dominated both pretty decisively but couldn't put the games away while Dortmund, uncharacteristically for them, had extreme realism on their chances.
Happens.
For some weird reason, we just had absolutely awful finishing in both Dortmund games. We dominated both pretty decisively but couldn't put the games away while Dortmund, uncharacteristically for them, had extreme realism on their chances.
Happens.
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Not been too impressed with them, so no
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sportsczy wrote:You know what group stage glory means in CL... pretty much nothing other than the draw for the next round. Since we got Napoli, it actually meant nothing.
I do know that and I also know what sitting on top of the league table in early January means.
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Not sure if you've been watching La Liga in recent years but big deficit comebacks in 2nd half of seasons have all fallen short.... gotten close a couple of times, but still fallen short.
Not saying it can't happen or we'll win for sure... but the odds are heavily in our favor right now unless we get hit by crazy injuries.
Not saying it can't happen or we'll win for sure... but the odds are heavily in our favor right now unless we get hit by crazy injuries.
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jibers wrote:BORUSSIA!! wrote:no they're too shit and incapable of doing such a feat that only barca can accomplish
Barcelona have never accomplished such a feat
How can Barcelona accomplish it when they are not even in a position to do it
Barcelona accomplished sextete in 2009 - six titles in the year, all titles possible to win was won by Barca, so that's the biggest achievement ever in club football. Also, Barca as the only club in the world has won 2 trebles - Madrid has 0.
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They didn't do it in a season, they did it in a year. Its never been done in a season, Madrid would be the first team ever (probably wont happen though).
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Football is seasonal. Barca won the supercups and the CWC in 2009-10 not in 08-09.
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sportsczy wrote:Not sure if you've been watching La Liga in recent years but big deficit comebacks in 2nd half of seasons have all fallen short.... gotten close a couple of times, but still fallen short.
Not saying it can't happen or we'll win for sure... but the odds are heavily in our favor right now unless we get hit by crazy injuries.
I wouldn't really argue with past years as apart from one season quite a while ago it hasn't been Real Madrid on top. The fact that Real couldn't catch Barca (or Atletico) doesn't imply Barca can't catch Real.
Anyway that wasn't even the point.
We're talking about the treble not just a league win. Barcelona and Atletico are still in the Copa and not a single ko game has been played in the CL.
rincon wrote:They didn't do it in a season, they did it in a year. Its never been done in a season, Madrid would be the first team ever (probably wont happen though).
Rangers won 5 in a season.
jibs even stated it in the OP ffs. I guess winning this ominous quintuple can't be worth all that much if people don't even remember the one *bleep* team that did win it
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