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The Official WWE Thread - Part 31
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 31
Well obviously I mean guys you push before that point, for example when Edge won the title from Cena after the chamber nobody really knew that was going to lead to what it did.
Not everyone is Bryan where they held him back for so long where it was obvious, some guys have to be pushed before the point.
Everyone gets to that point differently, but we'll see where it goes with Strowman. I'm satisfied with him so far though, just think being in a title match this WM is too early for him but we'll see.
Not everyone is Bryan where they held him back for so long where it was obvious, some guys have to be pushed before the point.
Everyone gets to that point differently, but we'll see where it goes with Strowman. I'm satisfied with him so far though, just think being in a title match this WM is too early for him but we'll see.
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Omega's recent interview (dunno if spoilerish)
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- After the 4FW (I realize I put it wrong in the title!) show on Saturday, Kenny had a Q&A with about 30 fans and these are the bits I can remember.
. He is 75% decided on what he is doing next in his career.
. When asked if he is worried that the Bullet Club will turn into the NWO and have too many members - He's not worried "because it's already happened. That's why we made the Elite. I suppose I'm the leader of the Bullet Club but please remember I am first and foremost a member of the Elite."
. When asked who he would most like to wrestle in the world at the moment - He mentioned he would love to wrestle some older guys in their prime such as Foley, HBK & Hogan. He then went on to say Vince McMahon for the story and said "he'd love to work AJ at Wrestlemania. That's a career aspiration."
. He has "0% interest in going NXT"
. He believes that if he went to WWE he needs to go in as Kenny Omega as there's money to be made with that moniker. He thinks they missed out on a great opportunity by not keeping Zayn as El Generico.
. He said he really wants to wrestle Ishii 1-1 as they've only had multi-man matches. Thinks there's a special aura around a big money match between himself and Shibata
. His favorite match is the one versus the young girl. Said if he had to show one match to his family, it'd be that, not him flying 20 foot through the air into a table. He loves doing comedy matches because everybody loves to laugh and you don't need to be a wrestling fan to enjoy the match versus the young girl. He loved his match versus Yano at the G1 last year.
. He thinks AJ will top his WK11 match because "that's just who he is." Mentioned that he's jealous of how naturally wrestling comes to AJ and how he has to bust his ass to be just as good as AJ "coming in and clocking in his card for a normal day at work."
. He said it'd take a whole lot of magic for him to end up being in the Rumble, but if he is then he's winning it
. After wrestling he'd like to take up gaming as a profession in tournaments etc.
If I can remember anything else I'll be sure to add more!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/5pnnpc/kenny_omega_qa_notes_from_f4w_on_210117/
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Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 31
His contract expires at Jan 31st. So there is exactly 0% chance he is appearing in the Rumble.
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By the time Rumble airs, it'll probably be 31st Jan. in Japan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjv19IXbi7Q&t=0s
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The best pushes to establish a main eventer are those that are natural, that build up over time, and that they are at the peak of their popularity when they win the title. I actually have to agree and say when someone is over, you know they are over and have "it" and you need to strap a rocket up their arse and push them to the moon. As oppose to pushing someone when they're not over hoping they will get over. Too many times the title has been thrown too early to someone in hoping the title will get them over (re. Jack Swagger).
I've been reading some past Royal Rumble reviews and Batista's win and push in 2005 was as perfect as you could get that I don't know why it doesn't happen more often. It pretty much had everything going against Batista's push;
- Golden child Randy Orton's face run and clear plan for Orton vs HHH at Wrestlemania
- Batista was already 37 years old so not too many years left against both Cena and Orton who were years younger.
- I doubt anyone saw Batista as anything more than the muscle of the group
If this was booked today I could guarantee Orton would have won the rumble and faced HHH, Batista would have been relegated to midcard against Baron Corbin, and Batista and Orton would have not be as successful as they are now.
I've been reading some past Royal Rumble reviews and Batista's win and push in 2005 was as perfect as you could get that I don't know why it doesn't happen more often. It pretty much had everything going against Batista's push;
- Golden child Randy Orton's face run and clear plan for Orton vs HHH at Wrestlemania
- Batista was already 37 years old so not too many years left against both Cena and Orton who were years younger.
- I doubt anyone saw Batista as anything more than the muscle of the group
If this was booked today I could guarantee Orton would have won the rumble and faced HHH, Batista would have been relegated to midcard against Baron Corbin, and Batista and Orton would have not be as successful as they are now.
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Strowman isn't ready - He is just a big man doing fancy moves who has improved on the mic.
He still needs to get a lot better in in-ring psychology, selling. Big Show had had huge longevity as a giant who has done well in various storylines.
Steph & WWE machine are pushing RAW hard with Taker who is from SD @ Raw & not Lesnar-Goldberg are also @ Raw to boost RAW ratings as Reigns is a huge failure which they wouldn't admit!
He still needs to get a lot better in in-ring psychology, selling. Big Show had had huge longevity as a giant who has done well in various storylines.
Steph & WWE machine are pushing RAW hard with Taker who is from SD @ Raw & not Lesnar-Goldberg are also @ Raw to boost RAW ratings as Reigns is a huge failure which they wouldn't admit!
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Onyx wrote:Cena's lost a bit of credibility due to his losses in recent years. Needs to win at the rumble and also the chamber match going into WM imo.
Not really, he's Cena no matter what. Besides he's going to obviously drop the belt again shortly after Mania due to his obvious outside stuff so he's going to lose again.
When you are over, losing doesn't actually matter. I mean Styles losing to Ellsworth and not losing a lick of credibility should tell you all you need to know.
Only matters to people who are not over, you just get to a point where it just doesn't effect you.
I'm not against Cena winning btw, just saying that he doesn'tt necessarily need it.Onyx wrote:
It's not like a legitimate superstar's being held down due to Cena/Reigns/Strowman possibly all winning at the rumble.
Oh and btw attitude like this is exactly the reason why for the last decade they haven't even attempted to create new stars.
I know we have been through this argument a million times but you have to realise that creating new stars takes time. Stone Cold after the i just kicked your ass promo took months before it finally took off( WWE wants you to believe he became a star overnight after that promo but it wasn't the case in the slightest) and they have only really started to push new people since the brand split.
Maybe they will fail and none of them will end up being stars but it's pointless assuming they won't and just continue to Roman push just because and is exactly the reason why we are where we are because they have been clinging onto Cena for the last decade and decided everyone else doesn't matter.
John Cena has more credibility than the Universal Title. Cena is approaching that Taker stage where feuding with him is as good as Title shot. Cena can take 10 more losses but will not lose any credibility !
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Looking at Raw it seems like they avoided giving things away as far as the Rumble is concerned.
One more Smackdown and we are in the clear lads
One more Smackdown and we are in the clear lads
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Taker, Goldberg and Lesnar in the ring at the same time. That larger than life moment.
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That seg beats anything SD has done over the past 7 months
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Damn wish we could see Goldberg face Taker at Mania. After seeing that segment, that's the first thing that came to my mind.
That was the very first time Taker and Goldberg meet face to face. If Goldberg hadn't left in 2004, WM21 definitely could've had a Goldberg-Taker match up.
That was the very first time Taker and Goldberg meet face to face. If Goldberg hadn't left in 2004, WM21 definitely could've had a Goldberg-Taker match up.
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But that was far from a goosebumps moment tho
Last legit goosebumps moment atleast for me was when Lesnar returned to wwe. Craziest pop ever.
Last legit goosebumps moment atleast for me was when Lesnar returned to wwe. Craziest pop ever.
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John Cena has more credibility than the Universal Title. Cena is approaching that Taker stage where feuding with him is as good as Title shot. Cena can take 10 more losses but will not lose any credibility !
As a big name, yeh he's at that stage where feuding with him is the equivalent of competing for a world title. But in terms of winning ability, I think we can all agree he's no longer in his prime. I would have loved to have seen super Cena from 2005-2013 vs Taker with his streak. The fact that he lost to Owens and Del Rio clean in recent years is disturbing. He's gone from unbeatable Cena to a regular main eventer or even an upper mid carder in terms of winning ability.
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ES wrote:That seg beats anything SD has done over the past 7 months
I hope you are not serious lol, it's not even the best thing Raw has done in terms of great and entertaining segments to end a show. ( Hell it's not even the best Goldberg related segment lmao)
I don't even get hyped over it, it doesn't mean anything to me. It's 3 old part timers, staring at each other with no actual end game other than to get TV ratings and nothing will be pushed from it.
But i'm different, i don't care for these Goldberg segments in the slightest and they don't do anything for me. Because they are forced as hell, a feud which was born out of selling a video game is something i'm supposed to be invested in? Nah.
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Goldberg and Undertaker in the same ring is something I dreamt of when Goldberg arrived in WWE. Shame we never got a Goldberg vs Biker Taker feud, that shit would be hype.
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M99 wrote:Goldberg and Undertaker in the same ring is something I dreamt of when Goldberg arrived in WWE. Shame we never got a Goldberg vs Biker Taker feud, that shit would be hype.
Agreed.
It's actually amazing how much money they have left on the table with various feuds over the years.
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Granted with biker Taker, the promos would have been better in a feud with Goldberg but for the entrances alone, Taker with his phenom gimmick versus Goldberg would've been worth it.
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I think we would have seen it if Goldberg stayed past WM 20.
Taker was feuding with Lesnar past Summerslam and then Mcmahon going into Survivor Series so he could come back as Phenom for WM 20.
Obviously Goldberg was feuding with HHH/Evolution and then the Lesnar stuff started.
Taker was feuding with Lesnar past Summerslam and then Mcmahon going into Survivor Series so he could come back as Phenom for WM 20.
Obviously Goldberg was feuding with HHH/Evolution and then the Lesnar stuff started.
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ES wrote:That seg beats anything SD has done over the past 7 months
Agreed.
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You guys have to be trolling me lol.
Don't see what was so good about a segment of 3 old, part timers just staring at each other with no end game except Royal Rumble.
Raw is a absolutely terrible show but things I can think of which are better since the brand split straight of the top of my head are...
Orton invading Raw and RKOing Lesnar
Goldberg promo about Lesnar not only being next but last
HHH screwing Rollins and Reigns
Smackdown invading Raw
I'm sure there's more and that's just mentioning Raw, like I said it's not even Goldberg's best segment. Hell the segment where he and Reigns speared Strowman was more entertaining tbh.
Wrestling is completely subjective and I get that but I'm really not feeling the same way tbh. If they were all in prime and this was 2002 and leading to something (even then no because it wasn't really entertaining) then fair enough but it's just 3 guys gazing at each other with zero end game lol.
There's segments to get excited about even on shit shows but I'm really not seeing why this is, it does nothing for me personally.
Don't see what was so good about a segment of 3 old, part timers just staring at each other with no end game except Royal Rumble.
Raw is a absolutely terrible show but things I can think of which are better since the brand split straight of the top of my head are...
Orton invading Raw and RKOing Lesnar
Goldberg promo about Lesnar not only being next but last
HHH screwing Rollins and Reigns
Smackdown invading Raw
I'm sure there's more and that's just mentioning Raw, like I said it's not even Goldberg's best segment. Hell the segment where he and Reigns speared Strowman was more entertaining tbh.
Wrestling is completely subjective and I get that but I'm really not feeling the same way tbh. If they were all in prime and this was 2002 and leading to something (even then no because it wasn't really entertaining) then fair enough but it's just 3 guys gazing at each other with zero end game lol.
There's segments to get excited about even on shit shows but I'm really not seeing why this is, it does nothing for me personally.
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Agree with Mole tbh.
For example I enjoyed Natalya's promo on Nikki far more than this staredown of 3 legends. The former looked very natural. The latter looked forced to me.
For example I enjoyed Natalya's promo on Nikki far more than this staredown of 3 legends. The former looked very natural. The latter looked forced to me.
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I don't see how RAW being a bad show has anything to do with this, this has been already established, i said that seg was better than any seg SD has done over the months. Yeah a bunch of part timers, but they are big names wether you like it or not, and to me are special attractions, i got stimulated with the crowd
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ES wrote:I don't see how RAW being a bad show has anything to do with this, this has been already established, i said that seg was better than any seg SD has done over the months. Yeah a bunch of part timers, but they are big names wether you like it or not, and to me are special attractions, i got stimulated with the crowd
I mentioned the Raw segments i felt was better though.
Wasn't even a shining example of Raw high moments to me. If this was actually leading to something i think i'd feel better about it.
Usually staredowns are down to build hype to an upcoming match in a feud without giving people physical stuff before the actual match.
That isn't the case here, ignoring the Smackdown stuff i feel like there's multiple segments on Raw which have been more entertaining, tell a better story and build towards something more substantial.
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Casciavit wrote:ES wrote:That seg beats anything SD has done over the past 7 months
Agreed.
Agreed too.
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Guys, Rollins won't be an entrant in RR?!
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