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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:20 pm

Like I said in the last game, Fellaini was a much bigger issue than Rooney.


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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:22 pm

Mourinho learned his lesson by dropping Rooney and Fellaini, will Wenger learn his with Xhaka and Perez? I somehow doubt it.
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Post by EL Patron Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:23 pm

Leicesters defending tho Laughing

as Champions, how can you concede such goals Laughing
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Post by Glory Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:24 pm

TBF this is massive luck playing its part too(rooni Laughing ). Yes we have been good but Lester have been shocking. Actually feeling sorry to see Ranieri like that on the sidelines. Hope they turn it around quickly. That defense of their's is done. Its shocking someone like Simpson is still starting for them.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:26 pm

Glory wrote:TBF this is massive luck playing its part too(rooni Laughing ). Yes we have been good but Lester have been shocking. Actually feeling sorry to see Ranieri like that on the sidelines. Hope they turn it around quickly. That defense of their's is done. Its shocking someone like Simpson is still starting for them.


They have been shite but you have played exceedingly well regardless. Kinda wish that Zlatan volley from Pogba's lofted pass went in. Laughing
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Post by Art Morte Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:29 pm

Embarrassing from the champions. They will probably be happy to finish mid-table this season - but with performances like this they'll be lucky to avoid the relegation scrap.

Looks like United are getting their break. Their next match is Stoke at home and that should be another win with what Stoke's form this autumn.
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Post by Glory Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:30 pm

RealGunner wrote:Like I said in the last game, Fellaini was a much bigger issue than Rooney.



Yeah Thumbs up I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.

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Post by Firenze Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:31 pm

Mahrez and Vardy gonna regret not moving in the summer Proud

still gonna top their Cl group though
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:36 pm

Glory wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Like I said in the last game, Fellaini was a much bigger issue than Rooney.



Yeah Thumbs up I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.


He was but it was imbalancing the team as a whole. No point having a decent performer if the others are not performing because they don't fit together.
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Post by Jay29 Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:47 pm

Leicester were vulnerable to set-pieces last season and they still are. This year they've gone to Anfield and Old Trafford and shipped four because shock horror a backline of Morgan, Huth and Simpson couldn't replicate their once in a lifetime form from last season and teams have wisened up to the long ball to Vardy.

I feel they have the firepower to still finish in the top half but nothing more.

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Post by Firenze Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:48 pm

what a hit from that leicester lad
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:51 pm

There goes Valencia's clean sheet
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:52 pm

Lmao, the sort of goal you concede on fifa and put your pad down and just look around the room in disgust because that shit shouldn't happen


Finesse shot OP etc
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Post by Art Morte Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:53 pm

Glory wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Like I said in the last game, Fellaini was a much bigger issue than Rooney.



Yeah Thumbs up I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.


I don't think having Fellaini instead of Herrera on the field in this game would make much of a difference. Herrera has been pretty invisible, has hardly had to put in a midfield masterclass.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:58 pm

Art Morte wrote:
Glory wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Like I said in the last game, Fellaini was a much bigger issue than Rooney.



Yeah Thumbs up  I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.


I don't think having Fellaini instead of Herrera on the field in this game would make much of a difference. Herrera has been pretty invisible, has hardly had to put in a midfield masterclass.


Doesn't matter, it frees up the rest of the team. Fellaini forces Pogba to be a lot more defensive and isn't a very good passer. Herrera is positionally excellent, a great passer and allows Pogba to play with more freedom as does Mata compared to Rooney.

It doesn't really matter how well Herrera plays, him just being there brings more balance to the midfield and makes the team play better. You are simply thinking of how well the individual plays instead of the team, they wouldn't have played like this with Fellaini in the team.

The whole team is just a lot more fluid and balanced, which doesn't happen with Fellaini.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:02 pm

Phil Neville calling Rashford a young Thierry Henry rofl
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:02 pm

Jamie Vardy and Riyad Mahrez's combined game by numbers:

0 shots
0 assists
0 successful crosses
0 take-ons
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:04 pm

Lol someone in sky called Wes Morgan, Wes Brown Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:10 pm

Think Swansea will win today
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:12 pm

Rooney lmaoooooo

Not taking his finger off the sprint button when receiving the ball. hmm
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:19 pm

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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:19 pm

Pogba MotM.

Should've been Blind.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:21 pm

Pogba, Blind and Mata all have a case tbh.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:22 pm

It's funny as an outsider because it seems over the past 3+ years whenever MU or England drop Rooney, they seem to play better- Yet he inevitably keeps crawling back into the starting XI.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:27 pm

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Post by Glory Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:35 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
Glory wrote:


Yeah Thumbs up  I opposed you back then. Props to you for showing light.
In his defense Fellaini was playing decently, and he will work well for a lot of goodish teams as a combating mf.


I don't think having Fellaini instead of Herrera on the field in this game would make much of a difference. Herrera has been pretty invisible, has hardly had to put in a midfield masterclass.


Doesn't matter, it frees up the rest of the team. Fellaini forces Pogba to be a lot more defensive and isn't a very good passer. Herrera is positionally excellent, a great passer and allows Pogba to play with more freedom as does Mata compared to Rooney.

It doesn't really matter how well Herrera plays, him just being there brings more balance to the midfield and makes the team play better. You are simply thinking of how well the individual plays instead of the team, they wouldn't have played like this with Fellaini in the team.

The whole team is just a lot more fluid and balanced, which doesn't happen with Fellaini.


Totally agree mate. Thumbs up
And Art lol Herrera's been many things but not certainly invisible today. Its not his natural role or the role he's used to playing, the holding deep lying CM. Yet he's done more than decent and the confidence is building and with increased game time its only going to improve from here on. Heartening to see his positional discipline. Always staying back and keeping it ticking. Against better oppositions though, we might need a Carrick/Schneiderlin too by his side to help him out. He alone might not be able to handle.

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