How big of a CL favorite are Juve now?

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Post by McAgger Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:08 pm

Buffon
Barzagli - Bonucci - Chiellini
Alves - Khedira - Marchisio - Sandro
Pjanic
Dybala - Higuain

Bench: Benatia, Rugani, Asamoah, Pjaca, Mandzukic
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:09 pm

pls don't do this to us... .to me Hames lad.


You were my friend.
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Post by McAgger Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:12 pm

GOAT keeper
Best defense in the world
Top 5 CF in the world
Top 5 CM in the world
top U23 talent in the world.
Unbelievable depth

:bow: :bow:
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Post by Firenze Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:12 pm

Team looks legit. Should win the group this time and reach semi's before being knocked out by one of the big teams.
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:15 pm

Is Pjaca legit ?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:17 pm

Don't call me James wrote:GOAT keeper
Best defense in the world
Top 5 CF in the world
Top 5 CM in the world
top U23 talent in the world.
Unbelievable depth

:bow: :bow:


Let's not forget about the best tactician in the world

Hands down the favorites to win
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Post by McAgger Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:19 pm

Damn completely forgot about CL-Max :bow:
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:22 pm

Firenze wrote:Team looks legit. Should win the group this time and reach semi's before being knocked out by one of the big teams.


Might get K.O'd in the groups and run in to United if United can make it a bit further this time. Having said that, Europa is no laughing matter. Especially when your only real striker is a 40 year old lad who can't run any more.
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Post by Robespierre Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:26 pm

Congratulations to Juventus on Winning Champions League 2016-2017
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Post by Luca Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:30 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
Firenze wrote:Team looks legit. Should win the group this time and reach semi's before being knocked out by one of the big teams.


Might get K.O'd in the groups and run in to United if United can make it a bit further this time. Having said that, Europa is no laughing matter. Especially when your only real striker is a 40 year old lad who can't run any more.


When Rooney can start as a CM, anything is possible in 2016 bruh

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Post by Firenze Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:31 pm

I could see that happening too, would be a good match that tbh, good to see Pogba get a chance to return to Turin so soon Proud We would probably rest Ibra tbh and let main man Rashford run wild instead though in Europa League. Plus don't Juve have some history in Europa League? still remember them getting smashed by Fulham a few years ago in it. Time for redemption IMO. See you in the knockouts. inb4 we get knocked out in the groups by some amateur team from Gibraltar.
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Post by S Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:33 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:pls don't do this to us... .to me Hames lad.


You were my friend.


We're done now. We're jinxed.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:35 pm

Hames pls... lad pls lad Sad
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:37 pm

Serious lack of Higuain was shit 5 years ago so it changes nothing in this thread tbh.
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Post by zigra Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:53 pm

Best squad in the world.
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Post by matpol Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:55 pm

4th favorite to win CL after Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
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Post by McAgger Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:55 pm

zigra wrote:Best squad in the world.


No excuses. Stacked.
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Post by zigra Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:55 pm

Can see them winning or losing the CL this year.
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Post by Lucifer Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:57 pm

Oh boy!

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Post by BORUSSIA!! Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:26 pm

why is everyone saying this?

how exactly is this team better on paper over the season they nearly won the treble. the season they had vidal, pirlo, pogba and tevez.

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Post by Adit Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:33 pm

Tier 3 favorites.

Tier 1 aka Madrid,Barka,Buyern

Tier 2 Atletico

After that Juventus,BVB etc
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Post by juve_gigi Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:40 pm

THE favourite...

Forza Juve!!!
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:41 pm

Adit wrote:
blabla aka Mehdrid,Barka,Buyern

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Post by Luca Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:41 pm

matpol wrote:4th favorite to win CL after Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.


Atletico has to be thrown in there, made a couple good signings and are the same stubborn team.

BORUSSIA!! wrote:why is everyone saying this?

how exactly is this team better on paper over the season they nearly won the treble. the season they had vidal, pirlo, pogba and tevez.


So in the CL final, this was our line up:

Morata-Tevez
Pogba-Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal
Evra-Bonucci-Barzagli-Lichtsteiner
Buffon

Now our line up is (for all intensive purposes, assuming everyone is fit and Higuain is signed):

Higuain-Dybala
Alex Sandro-Pjanic-Marchisio-Khedira-Dani Alves
Chiellini-Bonucci-Barzagli
Buffon

I think this team is quite comfortably better for the following reasons.

First, we have much better depth.

Second, the attack is much, much improved- while I love Tevez and Morata, Higuain and Dybala are ahead.

Third, Pjanic, he has consistently been one of the best creative forces in Serie A for a few seasons now.

Fourth, Dani Alves and Alex Sandro are fantastic attacking wing backs, this is an element that is night and day different from 2015- on top of that, we have retained Evra and Lichtsteiner.

Fifth, the defense: Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli, Benatia, Rugani- this is a great core and group of central defenders.

Sixth, that season was Pirlo's worst in a Juventus shirt as well as Vidal's worst. Tevez was fantastic and seemingly irreplaceable for Juventus but Dybala had an amazing debut season.

For me, overall this squad has more quality and in the 3-5-2, the wing backs alone are an improvement on the 2015 team.

The real question will be the midfield because of Marchisio's long term injury and Khedira's injury proneness.

Anyways, just my opinion. Everyone will have their preference but for me, this squad is better equipped.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:42 pm

BORUSSIA!! wrote:why is everyone saying this?

how exactly is this team better on paper over the season they nearly won the treble. the season they had vidal, pirlo, pogba and tevez.



Inferior wing backs

Pirlo was finished then in big games, I say that as Pirlo's #1 worshipper.

Dybala > Tevez

Higuain > Morata


Vidal was injured and plain bad that season.

Our midfield is a bit weaker, wing backs and attack much improved.

And we're not done with our MF yet.
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