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Post by Freeza Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:03 pm

I also understand this whole 'wants to win a ring' excuse. Isn't building a legacy and an eventual ring much greater? Just look at how beloved Reggie Miller is in Indiana, that's worth more than rings, showing heart and love for the people who supported you through the hardships.

Players who don't get any help are excused. Garnett, LeBron etc. never had the team Durant could've had in Oklahoma this year. They were even betting favourites after the GSW-Cavs series if Durant were to return.

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Post by McAgger Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:03 pm

Freeza wrote:Has there ever been another case of "Can't beat 'em, join 'em"?

Can't remember anything like this.

The cba really f'ed the league. The sudden rise in cap made this possible and it's everything the NBA's financial system has built up to prevent. Having 5 all-stars on the same team is ridiculous.

Also Durant's ring won't mean anything in the legacy conversations. Doubt anyone respects him enough anymore.

Good for Warriors fans though.


It wasn't just the massive cap raise. So many things had to workout perfectly for this scenario.

-Curry's injuries
-Curry's mindblowing contract.
-The sudden cap raise instead of the slow influx that the league suggested.
-Durant becoming free agent at such a perfect time.
-Durant's mentality to join rather than win it himself (Kobe/Timmy/Dirk mentality superstars and this doesn't happen).
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:04 pm

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Freeza wrote:


I'm all for using 'we' as a pronoun in cases of sports. But you sure take it to a whole new level.

There's no 'we' in that post hmm


That's worse tbh. Singlehandedly beating LeBron Molenation




No stress, I know what you meant Freeze.

It's just a thing of mine. What can I say I'm passionate when it comes to sport and I've done it all my life with the other teams from other sports I support as well
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:07 pm

CBarca wrote:

The banter about all this is amazing. If anything I'm happy this has happened just because of banter.


More like hating and salt pans that will be created in places all over that isn't the Bay Area.
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Post by Freeza Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:08 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Freeza wrote:
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There's no 'we' in that post hmm


That's worse tbh. Singlehandedly beating LeBron Molenation




No stress, I know what you meant Freeze.

It's just a thing of mine. What can I say I'm passionate when it comes to sport and I've done it all my life with the other teams from other sports I support as well


Well, I'm passionate too. I almost have heart attacks watching teams I don't even support.

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Who's even left of the Kobe/Duncan/Dirk players?

Lillard/DeRozan/Westbrook(?)/Paul George

These seem like the people that value it so far. Gotta wait and see how Westbrook respons next season. Lakers is probably the only choice than would be accepted in some way. It is hometown team and we're awful, so it can't be seen as ring-chasing. But doubt it's going to happen. My bias is allowed to dream.
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Post by Freeza Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:11 pm

The good thing to come out of this is that we get to watch Westbrook completely unleashed. It's gonna be Kobe 06 levels of usage rate.
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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:14 pm

Freeza wrote:Has there ever been another case of "Can't beat 'em, join 'em"?

Can't remember anything like this.

The cba really f'ed the league. The sudden rise in cap made this possible and it's everything the NBA's financial system has built up to prevent. Having 5 all-stars on the same team is ridiculous.

Also Durant's ring won't mean anything in the legacy conversations. Doubt anyone respects him enough anymore.

Good for Warriors fans though.


Clearly the biggest bitch move in the history of sports. I've lost all respect for him, which sucks because he was a top 3 favorite player of mine..

The real issue with LeBron in 2010 was how he announced going to Miami, not going to Miami.. Miami was #5 in the East and he was surrounded by a bunch of scrubs in Cleveland.. Not to mention he had to play at a superstar level to win

Durant's rings won't mean much, he could literally just be a good role player and possibly make the difference.. But nobody outside of hardcore basketball fans will care 50 years from now Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:15 pm

Can't wait to see him (Russ) get pissed when there's no one to help him out (:
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:16 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:
Freeza wrote:Has there ever been another case of "Can't beat 'em, join 'em"?

Can't remember anything like this.

The cba really f'ed the league. The sudden rise in cap made this possible and it's everything the NBA's financial system has built up to prevent. Having 5 all-stars on the same team is ridiculous.

Also Durant's ring won't mean anything in the legacy conversations. Doubt anyone respects him enough anymore.

Good for Warriors fans though.


Clearly the biggest bitch move in the history of sports. I've lost all respect for him, which sucks because he was a top 3 favorite player of mine..

The real issue with LeBron in 2010 was how he announced going to Miami, not going to Miami.. Miami was #5 in the East and he was surrounded by a bunch of scrubs in Cleveland.. Not to mention he had to play at a superstar level to win

Durant's rings won't mean much, he could literally just be a good role player and possibly make the difference.. But nobody outside of hardcore basketball fans will care 50 years from now Laughing

He could always do a LeBron by just winning a couple of rings and then go to a scrub team and go and try do it there as well
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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:20 pm

Yeah, that is why I stop just short of saying his legacy is over.. But let's be real, he just had a great player on his team for 8 years (top 5 for the past 3 or so) and couldn't get them over the hump.. I doubt he can go change a franchise like LeBron

I wouldn't be as upset with him if they didn't lose to the Warriors.. He was the main reason they choked game 6 away, then joins them.. At least come back and redeem yourself ffs

OKC fans must feel like shit right now
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Post by Freeza Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:26 pm

I just miss some attitude in the league. I really hope the new generation will at least be loyal.


Well, 76ers playing in 30 minutes. Anyone watching? Ben Simmons summer league debut.
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Post by McAgger Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:33 pm

Freeza wrote:
El Gunner wrote:
Freeza wrote:

That's worse tbh. Singlehandedly beating LeBron Molenation




No stress, I know what you meant Freeze.

It's just a thing of mine. What can I say I'm passionate when it comes to sport and I've done it all my life with the other teams from other sports I support as well


Well, I'm passionate too. I almost have heart attacks watching teams I don't even support.

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Who's even left of the Kobe/Duncan/Dirk players?

Lillard/DeRozan/Westbrook(?)/Paul George


Curry. It's not his fault his franchise is bringing top 5 player to collude with him. But he's gonna be a 1 franchise man.
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Post by McAgger Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:34 pm

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt 4m4 minutes ago
Told emphatically by league source there's no chance Russell Westbrook will do a renegotiation/extension of his contract (one yr remaining).
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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:34 pm

Freeza wrote:I just miss some attitude in the league. I really hope the new generation will at least be loyal.


Well, 76ers playing in 30 minutes. Anyone watching? Ben Simmons summer league debut.


I have only watched a handful of players in summer league but I will probably check him out
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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:36 pm

What happens in 2 years when Curry gets a monstrous payday? I don't see this Warriors team lasting very long.. But, they don't need a big 4 long term anyways.. 3 would be fine
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Post by Freeza Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:37 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:What happens in 2 years when Curry gets a monstrous payday? I don't see this Warriors team lasting very long.. But, they don't need a big 4 long term anyways.. 3 would be fine


Isn't it already next year? Both him and Durant needing that 150+m$ deal.
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Post by McAgger Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:41 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:What happens in 2 years when Curry gets a monstrous payday? I don't see this Warriors team lasting very long.. But, they don't need a big 4 long term anyways.. 3 would be fine

Nothing they have cap space to keep all 4.

Steph's cap hold is only 16m next season. So even if they pay him 30m+ only 16m will be counted towards the cap but he has to sign last after the whole roster is complete otehrwise it won't be able to go over.

They can pay Durant 35m next summer. Have both Klay and Dray current contract and and keep Steph's 16m on the books and have 48m cap to fill up the roster. rofl

They can even sign Wesbrook. Laughing

The only thing they have to do is sign Curry last

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