Griezmann for Ballon d'Or ?

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Post by sportsczy Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:50 pm

Cruijf wrote:Because Atleti were complete scrubs without Griezmann Rolling Eyes

Yes on paper Atleti is worse than Barca but let's not act as if Grizzy is the main reason for them over performing. That's on Simeone.

They've always had at least a couple of top shelf attacking players:

-  Forlan/Aguero
-  Costa/Falcao
-  Turan/Costa
-  Turan/Griezmann

This past year is the only time that they've relied on just one top shelf attacking player.  They haven't missed a beat because Griezmann has stepped up in an incredibly efficient manner to boot.  He scored 32 goals on 133 shots and dished out 7 assists.  You know how many shots Ronaldo took?  322.  That's right 322!!!  He got 51 goals but look at his efficiency.

I actually thought they were going to struggle some this year but they didn't. They're trying to get someone to help Griezmann out (Higuain, Lacazette,etc.)... no luck so far though. Nico Gaitan should help a ton in terms of creating more opportunities however.

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Post by Cruijf Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:05 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Cruijf wrote:Because Atleti were complete scrubs without Griezmann Rolling Eyes

Yes on paper Atleti is worse than Barca but let's not act as if Grizzy is the main reason for them over performing. That's on Simeone.

They've always had at least a couple of top shelf attacking players:

-  Forlan/Aguero
-  Costa/Falcao
-  Turan/Costa
-  Turan/Griezmann

This past year is the only time that they've relied on just one top shelf attacking player.  They haven't missed a beat because Griezmann has stepped up in an incredibly efficient manner to boot.  He scored 32 goals on 133 shots and dished out 7 assists.  You know how many shots Ronaldo took?  322.  That's right 322!!!  He got 51 goals but look at his efficiency.

I actually thought they were going to struggle some this year but they didn't. They're trying to get someone to help Griezmann out (Higuain, Lacazette,etc.)... no luck so far though. Nico Gaitan should help a ton in terms of creating more opportunities however.


1. Turan is not and has never been a "top shelf attacking player."
2. Ronaldo takes far more shots than any other player, bad example. How many shots did Suarez or Messi take last season?
3. He may be the main source of Atleti's goals but that doesn't mean he is carrying them. Without their incredible defensive discipline they don't go anywhere and that is down to Simeone.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:33 am

Doesnt CR deserve more credit than Griezmann taking this dreadful portuguese team to the finals?

Except for Pepe and maybe Gueirrero, not a single portugese player gets in that french team
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Post by titosantill Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:48 am

portugal's got a dreadful squad. but from what i've watched its very difficult for me to say cristiano 'took' them to the finals...
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Post by titosantill Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:51 am

btw because i say griezmann carried on his form from the season into the euros, does not equate to griezmann carrying france to the finals. not every tournament win means the best player on the team/highest scorer, carried the team to that cup win
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Post by M99 Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:23 am

He has been given Euro 16 Golden Ball.

Deserved.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:24 am

Based on performances

1. Messi
2. Griezmann
3. Bale
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:25 am

M99 wrote:He has been given Euro 16 Golden Ball.

Deserved.
What happened, did Real Uefadrid run out of bribe moneys? rofl
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:31 am

Btw Payet won Uefa performance barometer. hmm
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:01 pm

Griezmann in an interview with Spanish media's yesterday: " I am now in the same conversation as Cristiano and Messi"

Ramos was asked about it today in CL press conference: "GrieZmann said he is now at the same level as CR and Messi? Ignorance is always bliss"

Dead rofl
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:42 pm

Ramos thinks he's one of the best CBs that ever lived... so he can count himself in that group.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:07 pm

Ramos: "Griezmann said he’s at the level of Messi and CR? Ignorance is bold. When I hear this kid talking I remember Totti, Buffon, Xavi... who have the house full of titles but don't have a BdO. He should take advice from Cholo or Godín, I've always said that he's a good player.


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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:09 pm

Totti has a house full of titles?  He won 2 major titles in 25 years as a pro lol.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:15 pm

The Griez has 1 and isn't fit to lick Totti's boots afaik. The new Ribery indeed, so bitter unbelievable. Fast forward in January when he tells us he's never cared about the balon
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Post by Mamad Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:42 pm

His goal celebration is the most annoying piece of clowning i have ever seen.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:01 pm

Ramos is clearly a greater player than GrieZmann can dream to be, lad is delusional comparing himself to CR and Messi this way lol. He needs to play better in la Liga to start with
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:08 pm

Valkyrja wrote:The Griez has 1 and isn't fit to lick Totti's boots afaik. The new Ribery indeed, so bitter unbelievable. Fast forward in January when he tells us he's never cared about the balon

WC and Europa. Totti has WC and Serie A.

Neither player whored himself to an elite club and stayed loyal... so no hate at all.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:09 pm

sports, seriously, quit it. Griezmann is not at Ronaldo's level, let alone Messi. Never was and never will.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:15 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:The Griez has 1 and isn't fit to lick Totti's boots afaik. The new Ribery indeed, so bitter unbelievable. Fast forward in January when he tells us he's never cared about the balon

WC and Europa. Totti has WC and Serie A.

Neither player whored himself to an elite club and stayed loyal... so no hate at all.


When did the Europa League become such a massive trophy ?
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:50 pm

Delusional! The overhyping and ridiculous self evaluations of these French players plus Sports, LOL, is simply over the top and delusional.

Sure they are talented and are to be congratulated for their WC, but to translate that into all or most of them best in world is ridiculous. You never heard this overhyping from Germany, Spain or Brazil.

It simply is DELUSIONAL
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:50 pm

Griezmann doesn't have either players' skill or mental fortitude and I am a huge fan of him. Also, he cannot be saying stuff like that whilst playing oodles of shit at the start of the season. World Champion or not, his form so far has been atrocious.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:27 pm

I'm having a piss ffs.  I like Griezmann a lot.  But he's barely a top 5 player for France, yet alone top 3 in the world.  To me, Mbappe, Varane, Pogba and Kante are better.  Lloris gets a shout and you also have Lucas Fernandez (whom I like a lot; typical Madrid we pick the wrong brother).
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Post by Doc Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:35 pm

Ugh, Theo. Really is a proper disappointment.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:50 pm

LOL Sports, you change your stance more often than your underware! Just a couple of posts above you had a completely differenr stance re Griezmann and last year you were raving that we got the right brother as Lucas had serious sexual allegations and I believe your statement was that Theo had bettter character.

Not to mention your completely over the top hyping about most of French NT players being world’s best. You were even making a case re Rabiot!
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:00 pm

No actually.  I'm just annoyed that Ramos feels like he's entitled to talk about players on other teams given his best attribute is scoring goals... shit defender who also holds the La Liga record for red cards (maybe yellows too).

It's not the words that i take exception to, but the person who is uttering them.  

Of course Grizzy isn't on the same level as CR and Messi.  I thought he had a better calendar year in 2016.  But he's in no way in the same stratosphere.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:26 pm

Griesman may be the worst player I’ve ever seen. Shame he didn’t go to Barca Crying or Very sad
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