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Post by futbol Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:27 pm

If they are going to appoint Mourinho, all the positives LVG has brought to the team, no matter how little, will be undone anyway. Going from Dutch possession philosophy to ... Mourinho. Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:46 pm

The idea that Van Gaal has a philosophy because he repeats it incessantly is hilarious.
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Post by windkick Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:05 pm

I don't get the people at United. The main complaint against LVG is how rigid and ugly the team is playing, no style or class.
So in turn....they are allegedly gonna hire Mourinho...who is known for playing anti-football that gets results...
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Post by Winter is Coming Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:09 pm

I don't think its them, but the fans and I guess the fans would rather ugly foot ball with results (Mou), then ugly football no result (LVG). The funny thing is Mou hasn't been anything that special since Inter really. 2 league titles in 6 years, his last job had them battling regulation.
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Post by futbol Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:14 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The idea that Van Gaal has a philosophy because he repeats it incessantly is hilarious.


But he does have a philosophy. Or style. Or whatever else you want to call it. He plays possession football. Mourinho plays the exact opposite of possession football.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:25 pm

windkick wrote:I don't get the people at United. The main complaint against LVG is how rigid and ugly the team is playing, no style or class.
So in turn....they are allegedly gonna hire Mourinho...who is known for playing anti-football that gets results...
A fan's order of preference:

Entertaining football + getting results > boring football + getting results > entertaining football + not getting results > boring football + not getting results

Currently United are at the last echelon, Mou could bring them two levels up

Of course, if the entire team was fit I'm sure LVG would be contending for the top 3 spots. I think at some points this season the Injured XI was actually better than the starting team.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:02 pm

United playing with speed and flair now. Rashford, Martial, John Mensah II and Lingaard all thriving under LVG.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:United playing with speed and flair now. Rashford, Martial, John Mensah II and Lingaard all thriving under LVG.



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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:24 pm

To be fair to LVG he did have an injury crisis for most of the season and remained within the fight for the CL. Had his team stayed fit I'm sure they would be 4th over City.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:27 pm

Getting sick of these excuses tbh, when Leicester and Spurs are 1st and 2nd you under-performed simple as that.
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Post by zigra Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:22 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:To be fair to LVG he did have an injury crisis for most of the season and remained within the fight for the CL. Had his team stayed fit I'm sure they would be 4th over City.

But that's because City underperformed (and they had injuries too) and because Chelsea had a nightmare of a season. Thing is two of the top teams had a bad or even really bad season and United is STILL not in the top 4 (yeah I know it can still happen) and let's not forget top 4 shouldn't be a big achievement for a club like United - it should be the bare minimum especially when it's not even your first season as a manager.

Some of the players van Gaal promoted/brought in might help the club longterm, but in my oppinion that's just not enough.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:23 pm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:25 am

The difference being that while city had some injuries in, United's case the entire first team seemed to be injured at times. There were points in time in which if you were to assemble an Injured XI that would be the superior team.

Not that it excuses his awful style or wasted signings but I think it should be taken into account.
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Post by B-Mac Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:31 pm

Martial is this greatest thing he has done...that is it.

Rashford fell into his lap because Martial got hurt in warm ups in Europa league...let's not pretend he gave him a start over Rooney or some other regular first teamer because he saw something in him, he did it in a emergency, Rashford took it and ran.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:08 pm

I'd change Van Gaal with De Gea tbh
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Post by RealGunner Sat May 21, 2016 8:39 pm

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Post by Glory Sat May 21, 2016 8:42 pm

omfg. rofl

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Van Gaal is the best thing that has happened to United in a long time. - Page 2 CjGIn_4WsAUYDpH

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Post by CBarca Mon May 23, 2016 5:33 am

Mistreated by players and management.

When Man U are the best club in the world again in 20 years LvG will be the reason why
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Post by Claudio84 Tue May 24, 2016 1:00 pm

S wrote:Van Gaal is the best thing that has happened to United in a long time. - Page 2 CjGIn_4WsAUYDpH

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He is crazy, but why can't he tell the player what he thought them were doing bad? And it's unproffesional on their behalf, the players are prima donnas, nothing is their fault, it is ungrateful to be a manager when you win it's because of the players, when you lose it's the manager's fault

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Post by RealGunner Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:58 pm

Should have had another season.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:53 pm

It never made sense to me to fire LVG, then hire a manager with the same ego/player management type.

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Post by Firenze Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:55 pm

at least LVG was entertaining with his personality and philosophies, Mourinho is just depressing.
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Post by footyfan01 Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:09 pm

Mourinho got Bailley, Ibra, Pogba n Miki.

LVG didn't have this team n plus with many injuries won a trophy n did okay in the league. The work he did with Smalling, Fosu Mensah, Rashford etc shouldn't be forgotten.

I still think LVG didn't get a good team n Martial which was a Giggs buy wasn't the best. If you give him a good Transfer Director then a lot more would have been possible.

With a top CB, CM, RW & ST, LVG could have challenged for the league!

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