Was that Messi's last Ballon D'or?

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Post by Cruijf Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:32 pm

With Messi slowly aging and Neymar improving by the second, will this be the last time Messi wins the Ballon D'or?


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Post by Lucifer Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:35 pm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:35 pm

Another Barca player won't win it until he retires/ages to the point where he's no longer effective, he'll always get the credit rightly or wrongly.

So no.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:36 pm

Cruijf wrote:With Messi slowly aging and Neymar improving by the second, will this be the last time Messi wins the Ballon D'or?


He's still the best player atm. He's slowly getting back to form so I do think that if he wins the next copa for instance he'll be the favorite again ( assuming that Cr or any other serious contender wins the Euro ).
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:38 pm

Not sure where the ageing part comes from either.

He was the best player in the world by a mile last season and was this year until Injury and scored a hatrick at the weekend Laughing

Some have short memories. hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:39 pm

Judging by his start to 2016, no.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:39 pm

He'll win the next 2 at least. The only way he doesn't is if Cristiano is turning it around for one last stand.
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Post by Cruijf Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:44 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Not sure where the ageing part comes from either.

He was the best player in the world by a mile last season and was this year until Injury and scored a hatrick at the weekend Laughing

Some have short memories. hmm

He's only 28 but he plays like he's much older. Less willing to take on players, move off the ball, etc. He's still the best player in the world but at this rate I can see Neymar overtaking him next season. And if he also outscores him this season (likely because of the injury) and wins the Copa I could see him taking it. Inertia is a powerful thing when it comes to popular opinion so it could take a few more years, but its certainly a possibility IMO.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:49 pm

He doesn't need to though, he hasn't taken people on consistently for about 5 years. It means nothing to his overall effectiveness and ability to be the best.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:49 pm

Bale will win this year. Top form, plays for the hype machine RM and is British.
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Post by windkick Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:08 pm

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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Not sure where the ageing part comes from either.

He was the best player in the world by a mile last season and was this year until Injury and scored a hatrick at the weekend Laughing

Some have short memories. hmm

He's only 28 but he plays like he's much older. Less willing to take on players, move off the ball, etc. He's still the best player in the world but at this rate I can see Neymar overtaking him next season. And if he also outscores him this season (likely because of the injury) and wins the Copa I could see him taking it. Inertia is a powerful thing when it comes to popular opinion so it could take a few more years, but its certainly a possibility IMO.


i mean he took on the entire Bilbao team in the final of la Copa and took on Bayern/Neur just in the semis last season, at 28. So I don't get where this he is less willing thing comes from, he just plays farther away from goal so he has to take on more people than when he played as false 9.

If anything he has been walking around when he doesnt have the ball, but he's been doing that for like 3-4 seasons now and he still finds a way to be the best player on the pitch by a country mile, and is ridiculous consistent over a seasons span.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:48 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Judging by his start to 2016, no.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:56 pm

He has 2 more at least. But you never know in football.


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Post by LeVersacci Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:23 pm

Bale got this on lock when he becomes the new face of Madrid when Ronaldo gets sold to PSG (:
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Post by Kick Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:55 am

I can't see him not winning it, tbh.

He'll take another 2-3 before Nerman takes over.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:31 am

Seems a bit strange ppl ruling out CRonaldo altogether? Hes just 30 I think and still in top condition and doing it for Real consistently. As much as I dont like him, hes still just behind Messi at the moment. If MEssi and him can keep up there physical conditions to stay at their level, then its still between them two next year, simply cos they still are the best two players around.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:38 am

neymar is not winning any golden ball until
1) he changes club and becomes THE guy
2) Messi leaves barca and he is THE guy
3) he wins the world cup

good luck with all 3
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Post by Donuts Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:21 am

nah, all neymar has to do is be a better player
score more goals, and outshine messi in the finals or big games they play together
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Post by futbol Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:17 am

BarcaLearning wrote:Seems a bit strange ppl ruling out CRonaldo altogether? Hes just 30 I think


It's stranger that people rule out Messi. He's 28. Laughing

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Post by free_cat Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:11 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He doesn't need to though, he hasn't taken people on consistently for about 5 years. It means nothing to his overall effectiveness and ability to be the best.


Cruijf wrote:

He's only 28 but he plays like he's much older. Less willing to take on players, move off the ball, etc.


Was that Messi's last Ballon D'or? Wat-3d-Gif-12


So, the best dribler in the world doesn't take on players consistently? Shocked Shocked :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:03 am

Donuts wrote:nah, all neymar has to do is be a better player


Agree.

Easy tbh.
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Post by Cruijf Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:04 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Donuts wrote:nah, all neymar has to do is be a better player


Agree.

Easy tbh.


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Post by Cruijf Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:06 pm

free_cat wrote:

So, the best dribler in the world doesn't take on players consistently? Shocked Shocked :facepalm: :facepalm:


I'm sure he dribbles all the time in the extended highlights (:
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Post by Claudio84 Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:34 pm

It wasn't, i don't think Madrid can win CL this season and the others who can stand against him are on his team and doesn't have the same reputation than he does.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:05 pm

free_cat wrote:

So, the best dribler in the world doesn't take on players consistently? Shocked Shocked :facepalm: :facepalm:


When he wants to be sure, but how often does he actually do that? he's a lot more selective with his runs nowadays which is what i meant.

He more often will put Neymar or Suarez in or pass around the opposition than dribble right through the heart of them now. The goals like where ripped Boateng a new asshole are not as frequent as they used to be.
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