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Post by RealGunner Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:15 pm

Wonder if that scene will be included in the bluray version of his film

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Post by Lucifer Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:42 pm

Reporter: any regrets about last march?
Benzema: Ya! Couldn't record it. Hope one if my homies have.

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Post by jibers Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:02 pm

That was just a game of pure tactical ignorance. Barcelona won by flooding the mf and having superiority in numbers in the attacking phase. Roberto and Alves both joined in and outnumbered Kroos and Modric. In the defensve phase Neymar and Roberto tracked their FBs and where below the halfway point whilst BBC where strolling in Barcelonas half when Madrid were defending.

I cannot solely blame Benitez for it. CR was useless as usual and missed a 1 vs 1 (2 if you count the offside post hit), Benzema was unfit and hadn't played a game in like 6 weeks, Bale is a circus monkey that looks out of his depth in La Liga. Benitez was under pressure from Ramos and CR to play an attacking line up and Perez as well. Then he took off Madrids only answer to Neymar and Messi, Hames their only fantasisti that was doing anything and brought on tunel vision Isco. Danilo was raped the whole game by Neymar and the Madrid FBs where constantly outnumbered.

hmmm....same problems last season, same problems under Mou...

All Madrid can pray for is Perez steps down (through his own decision or he becomes ill), the players decide to put their egos aside and do stop walking or bench CR and Bale and make Hames the focal point. Neither will happen.

I knew that once Messi came on Madrid would start creating chances. Roberto and Rakitic where doing double shifts and running and covering and oveloading the mf and channels. Messi destabilised Barcelonas structure immediately and he was walking (obviously unfit). The scoreline was about fair (maybe a manita would have been a more balanced scoreline) because Bravo made 3 monstrous saves.

All in all, in all the years Pepcelona smashed Madrid, this was the worst performance from any Madrid team in the Madrid Barca derby since Ronaldinho embarrassed Madrid in their own stadia.

When you're team makes Sergi Roberto look like Zico, it's time to call it a day...
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:56 pm

When you're team makes Sergi Roberto look like Zico, it's time to call it a day...

That would have sufficed instead of wasting energy writing up a whole post.
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Post by jibers Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:59 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
When you're team makes Sergi Roberto look like Zico, it's time to call it a day...

That would have sufficed instead of wasting energy writing up a whole post.


I gave my opinion on the tactics as well and what I saw. Thanks for telling me how to conserve my energy though.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:02 pm

4-0 part is so perfect lmao
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Post by Kaladin Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:13 pm

Mole speaks from experience
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:44 pm

Apparently Cristiano told Florentino "It's Benitez or me" in the aftermath

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Post by Kaladin Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:49 pm

Whats the source? hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:54 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Cristiano told Florentino "It's Benitez or me" in the aftermath

Laughing


Terrible professional. Needs to be sold ASAP. They should sell him in winter Laughing
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:18 pm

I doubt he said it, though I still want both of him and Rafa gone. And Florentino too.
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Post by Pedram Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:25 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Cristiano told Florentino "It's Benitez or me" in the aftermath

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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:53 pm

Wouldnt surprise me if he said it. When Iker was here he was able to calm these primadonnas down. Ramos lol will join in with Ronaldo. He has already spoken out against Rafa before when Rafa criticised him for causing a penalty. This season is going to be loong
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Post by titosantill Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:36 pm

very possible that he said it, the relationship with rafa has been stated as rocky from the beginning. even when ancelotti was sacked you could tell if the new manager didn't have personality to him it would cause problems, seeing how guys really stood up for carlo when the decision was made. and i mentioned that in an earlier thread. see below

titosantill wrote:i'm not sure firing ancelotti is the answer. Yes, he's made a lot of bone headed moves, yes he's been a yes-man since he came (his inability to fight for di maria after all di maria did for us, and for him really bothered me), also, i'm not sure how much input he had, if any, when it came to signing james (its like he just went with flo on every decision, no disrespect to james, who's been alright), obviously there's the bale and rotation issue, as well as the formation and tactics.

However, why i'm not sure letting him go is the answer is because, the players like him, he has the confidence of most of the players, if not all of them and that really matters; i'm not sure how they'll warm up to yet another new coach, especially one such as klopp, who though very good, will have his own ideas and philosophies, its a testy issue here

also, after this failure, one would expect ancelotti to have grown some cojones and be able to tell flo what players he wants, and bench whoever he wants....i seriously doubt carlo is going to go a whole season without rotating like he did this year again after this fiasco, which now has our rivals in prime position to do a second treble....*bleep* carlo for that....but i'd rather he stayed, if not for anything, at least for stability


http://www.goallegacy.net/t37706p54-who-will-replace-carletto


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Post by titosantill Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:39 pm

frankly, carlo's become almost like a martyr to the players, and considering they never wanted him gone, rafa, whose personality isn't really his strong point has been seen as villain...so it won't surprise me if this story was true....but you can never put it past the spanish media to make things up. that's what they do best, write fictional tales
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Post by chad4401 Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:54 pm

anyone have a picture for the 424 formation in action? for this game thanks.
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Post by Clutch Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:05 pm

Didnt Messi say, "Enrique or me" last season? You guys will believe anything Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:18 pm

Clutch wrote:Didnt Messi say, "Enrique or me" last season? You guys will believe anything Laughing
Tbf Messi became the de-facto coach after that, and somehow I don't think CR's managerial skills are anywhere near Leo's.
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Post by Donuts Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:56 am

did you see the way messi sat in the bench next to the coaches, we all know who the mastermind is here.
ever since the real sociedad game 2014 january it's been all coachessi
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:38 am

chad4401 wrote:anyone have a picture for the 424 formation in action? for this game thanks.


Proud Someone posted a link but I can't find it.
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Post by Clutch Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:01 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Clutch wrote:Didnt Messi say, "Enrique or me" last season? You guys will believe anything Laughing
Tbf Messi became the de-facto coach after that, and somehow I don't think CR's managerial skills are anywhere near Leo's.
Thats true. Coachessi couldnt help but sub himself in early just to get in on the action. Dont know if he approved of the Munir sub tho hmm

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Post by RealGunner Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:28 pm

This saturday at camp nou


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Post by Harmonica Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:39 pm

Just few days after MSN has been playing tough as nails qualifiers other side of the world, instead resting at their home like Real players. I love how subtle RFEF is. Laughing

You can actually get five houses betting Real RFEFdrid with one, and I have already taken steps for big investments. Easier than pressing money. rofl
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Post by rincon Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:49 pm

do you actually believe any of that RFEF stuff?
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Post by chad4401 Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:05 am

its his fail safe just in case messi plays like crap.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:35 am

Neymar didnt even play Brazil's last due to accumulation of yellow cards Laughing the rest of the Barca players pretended to be injured
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