Re: Ramos demands to leave Madrid

by Red Alert Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:39 am

linetty wrote:
Glory wrote:
S wrote:Daily Mail say Man U have bid €50m for him.

35 mil pounds. That SHOULD be our last bid. Real reject it, asap move on to otamendi and keep ddg for one more year.

You still think you can keep De Gea? He's coming back home mate

Not sure if Atlético can afford him to be honest.

by Red Alert Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:40 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:35 mil pounds plus de gea and there will be a deal

Should be the other way around.

35m + Ramos FOR De Gea. Ramos is done. rofl

by Myesyats Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:43 am

Red Alert wrote:
linetty wrote:
Glory wrote:

35 mil pounds. That SHOULD be our last bid. Real reject it, asap move on to otamendi and keep ddg for one more year.

You still think you can keep De Gea? He's coming back home mate

Not sure if Atlético can afford him to be honest.

I meant the city in general...

by Glory Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:19 am

Red Alert wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:35 mil pounds plus de gea and there will be a deal

Should be the other way around.

35m + Ramos FOR De Gea. Ramos is done.

Well, ideally yes, but for a player who is 1 year away from running out his contract down, its not possible.

linetty wrote:
Glory wrote:
S wrote:Daily Mail say Man U have bid €50m for him.

35 mil pounds. That SHOULD be our last bid. Real reject it, asap move on to otamendi and keep ddg for one more year.

You still think you can keep De Gea? He's coming back home mate

Yea, may be eventually. But we can of course delay it. Keep him in the team and let him go for free next window. 15 or so mil real are offering us now is a disgrace for a player of ddg's caliber.
But on the other hand, getting someone in a swap + money deal and to fill an area where we need strengthening and on top of that need some leadership desperately is kind of a fair idea.
Plus if It can also somewhat help in asserting the stand that we aint their goddamn selling club, and they cant just come and poach our players, then its kind of a brilliant idea imo, going for a swap deal i.e.

Its like 15-20 mil for ddg this window = Real win massively.
35 mil + ddg = ramos Its kinda fair deal for both teams taking all things into consideration. Perhaps 35 is a tad too much though.
Letting ddg go for free NEXT SEASON = will hurt real more actually as they will have to content with their mediocre keepers for one more year and we will get one more year of ddg.

by Blue Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:29 am

Fußball wrote:Why even comment on a team you are clearly not watching regularly? Mascherano was exposed countless times in the big games as usual. Sliding on his ass against Agüero, only rescued by Pique. The scene I'm talking about is here @ 3:08:

#REKT by Lewandowski in Allianz. Bambi on ice against Juve. Bad passing out of the back which led to Torres' goal in the Calderon in the Copa (did the same against Juve but luckily one of Tevez or Vidal skied the shot). Mascherano has his moments but he's easily recognizable as the weaker part of the central defense. Especially aerially he is COMPLETELY lost. Watch any Clasico where he is specifically targeted in that manner or the return leg against Bayern.

You can spare us with the lazy "MSN" narrative. If a great frontline alone would yield the results that Barcelona has achieved the past season, Argentina would walk everything yet they barely manage to win against scrub international teams like Jamaica and Paraguay even though they have Messi, Agüero, Di Maria and Pastore in their offensive line. This isn't Liverpool 13/14 with 101 goals scored but 50 conceded.

Dude everything is not black and white.

I am saying Pique is not one of the CB in the world------------------Does not mean i think Pique is shit and useless.

I am not also saying the rest of Barca is shit, you don't win a treble if the rest of the team is shit. All i said top to bottom Barca is not the best team, that is how the best teams usually are. They play to their strength and what you can do better then everyone else is very important.

Btw don't why you are comparing a club to NT. Do you honestly realize how different club football and NT football are? The amount of games and practices you get with your team is huge, Barca gelled very well and it took a bit for them to really get going. MSN mashed very well, Argentina forward have never delivered the same balance and tranquility.

by farfan Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:05 pm

also lol at Fussball .
last year he was leading the " is Pique the worst defender to start for a big club ? " narrative , and now he's shamelessly hailing him as the best defender in the world . Proud

by Donuts Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:07 pm

i think since last summer fussball has been trying to pull an ES and gl jinx everything.
hardly surprising really.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:08 pm

farfan wrote:also lol at Fussball .
last year he was leading the " is Pique the worst defender to start for a big club ? " narrative , and now he's shamelessly hailing him as the best defender in the world .

People are allowed to change their mind hmm

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:29 pm

farfan wrote:also lol at Fussball .
last year he was leading the " is Pique the worst defender to start for a big club ? " narrative , and now he's shamelessly hailing him as the best defender in the world .

That's not a fair criticism seeing as how Pique's performance made a complete 180 in the last 6 months

by Adit Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:38 pm

Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:40 pm

Adit wrote:Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.

You could apply that to every defender on the planet.

by Adit Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:43 pm

I don't understand mole...you said you have barely watched Madrid this season but I saw you claiming Ramos is our best defender pls explain how you came to that conclusion with out watching games.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:48 pm

I already said I was trolling lol.

Surely the million and one times I have said Ramos is overrated is enough but nope.

by RED Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:04 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:MAn United make initial bid of £30m to Ramos

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/sergio-ramos-to-manchester-united-red-devils-make-30m-opening-bid-for-unsettled-real-madrid-defender-10343450.html

gtfo

Seems fair.

B-Mac wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:MAn United make initial bid of £30m to Ramos

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/sergio-ramos-to-manchester-united-red-devils-make-30m-opening-bid-for-unsettled-real-madrid-defender-10343450.html

gtfo

:from the guy whose team is trying to buy de gea for 18m

Exactly

I read somewhere that their opening bid was actually 13m :facepalm:

by Myesyats Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:05 pm

Adit wrote:Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.

What the BLEEP is wrong with GL and centre backs?! Yes, players have bad days. What a SUPRISE!

Just... think before posting

by Glory Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:05 pm

by RED Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:07 pm

Glory wrote:
S wrote:Daily Mail say Man U have bid €50m for him.

35 mil pounds. That SHOULD be our last bid. Real reject it, asap move on to otamendi and keep ddg for one more year.

This. 100%

by Unique Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:08 pm

man u don't need ramos anyway. jones and smalling just signed new contracts. eco smile

by Donuts Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:10 pm

linetty wrote:
Adit wrote:Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.
What the BLEEP is wrong with GL and centre backs?! Yes, players have bad days. What a SUPRISE!

Just... think before posting

i remember that one time maldini scored an own goal vs lazio..
what a horrible defender that guy was how dare he make a mistake.

by Myesyats Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:11 pm

Donuts wrote:
linetty wrote:
Adit wrote:Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.
What the BLEEP is wrong with GL and centre backs?! Yes, players have bad days. What a SUPRISE!

Just... think before posting

i remember that one time maldini scored an own goal vs lazio..
what a horrible defender that guy was how dare he make a mistake.

Yeah he was awful. Own goal? :/ Surely can't be considered even a decent CB

by Glory Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:13 pm

Unique wrote:man u don't need ramos anyway. jones and smalling just signed new contracts.

Kolo Toure signed one too :whistle:

by Unique Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:30 pm

Glory wrote:
Unique wrote:man u don't need ramos anyway. jones and smalling just signed new contracts.

Kolo Toure signed one too

that's a bad thing. I thought new deals for jones and smalling was a good thing. eco smile

by Unique Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:35 pm

lets be honest ramos has won it all. and anyone that says he is not a top player is trolling. but at 29yo. and the money he will cost in transfer and wages I think man u would be best to stay away. he has to be on over 100k per week at Madrid. so man u will have to pay him more than that. if the guy was 25 then fair play. push the boat out and spend big on him. but no way would I be happy for Liverpool to spend that much on him.

by Valkyrja Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:45 pm

Donuts wrote:
linetty wrote:
Adit wrote:Lol pique..remember the Valencia game in which Barcelona won 2-0? Wasn't so long ago

He was utter garbage that game but hey since Barca won nothing happened.. Barca midfields has shielded him well.
What the BLEEP is wrong with GL and centre backs?! Yes, players have bad days. What a SUPRISE!

Just... think before posting

i remember that one time maldini scored an own goal vs lazio..
what a horrible defender that guy was how dare he make a mistake.

But Pique used to make a mistake per game Laughing

by Glory Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Unique wrote:lets be honest ramos has won it all. and anyone that says he is not a top player is trolling. but at 29yo. and the money he will cost in transfer and wages I think man u would be best to stay away. he has to be on over 100k per week at Madrid. so man u will have to pay him more than that. if the guy was 25 then fair play. push the boat out and spend big on him. but no way would I be happy for Liverpool to spend that much on him.

5 years is left in him. Only need to look as far as Terry last season to know age for a centre back is not overtly relevant. On top of that he is not injury prone and can play 40 matches a season. So if we can prise out about 200 games out of him, 35 mil and the reported 300 k salary (falcao's last season's salary is available, so no added toll on the wage budget as well) is nothing in this day and age more so, that if you are also looking at added and necessary attributes he will bring like leadership and passion which we lack severely (Heck wayne rooney is our captain !! :facepalm:

) , this will be a decent deal if we can pull it off.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Unique wrote:lets be honest ramos has won it all. and anyone that says he is not a top player is trolling. but at 29yo. and the money he will cost in transfer and wages I think man u would be best to stay away. he has to be on over 100k per week at Madrid. so man u will have to pay him more than that. if the guy was 25 then fair play. push the boat out and spend big on him. but no way would I be happy for Liverpool to spend that much on him.

Why do you care lol? It's not your money, will never understand why fans are so obsessed with finances.

Besides Man Yoo has a bottomless pit of cash, the money mentioned for Ramos is absolutely nothing to them.

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