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Post by Art Morte Wed May 27, 2015 9:54 am

Perhaps the only reason we extended Comedy Kolo was our EL campaign (if we make it through the qual). He will be easy to send to those Thursday night games while Skrtel and Sakho can chill. But even then I would have preferred Coates or Ilori for that role, but oh well, it's not a major thing.

Wisdom, the only way I see him featuring for us next season is if we play three at the back. He's not a better full-back than Manquillo or Flanagan, so he's definitely not at the club for that purpose.

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Post by Helmer Wed May 27, 2015 10:04 am

I think defensively Wisdom is !

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Post by mr-r34 Wed May 27, 2015 1:23 pm

*bleep* 3 at the back, i'm over it, if Rodgers can't organize a defense he needs to go.

I'd rather plat coates then kolo, absolute joke, shows how unaware these guys are at running our club.
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Post by iftikhar Wed May 27, 2015 2:06 pm

art wrote:Perhaps the only reason we extended Comedy Kolo was our EL campaign (if we make it through the qual). He will be easy to send to those Thursday night games while Skrtel and Sakho can chill.
Nothing can justify extending his contract. If we are considering extended schedule, we may as well field some 18-year old; cause that's exactly how good Toure is.
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Post by Curtinho Wed May 27, 2015 2:44 pm

Yeah but an 18 year old doesn't bring the experience and presence that Toure brings. People really undervalue this as a whole in most sports. Just look at the Edmonton Oilers if you really want to see what taking away all the veteran presence and insulation can do to the mentality of a team no matter how many incredibly talented young players there are.

Keeping Toure is fine. I also agree that Can should be moved to midfield which is why we should be holding on to Coates and Ilori as well. With Sakho, Skrtel, Lovren, Toure, Coates/Ilori and Wisdom we will be just fine with CB capable players and with Gerrard leaving, and likely Lucas being used in a reduced role we're going to be just fine for getting Can reps in midfield I would think.

Again, we can buy basically every 'mediocre' player under the sun from Milner to Ings to Song to Bolasie to Williams but at the end of the day that is not what is going to drastically change our season. This summer will really hinge on the type of goal scorers we bring in.
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Post by iftikhar Wed May 27, 2015 5:37 pm

Yeah but an 18 year old doesn't bring the experience and presence that Toure brings.
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Post by Red Alert Thu May 28, 2015 8:22 am

mr-r34 wrote:Honestly if any more managers play Can in the back, i won't support them ever, they obv have no clue on how to use the guy.

I'm not too worried about Wisdom, the toure signing is bollocks, you want *bleep* experience don't *bleep* let Agger go, who has always been better than kolo. Paying him wages to rot on the bench is useless, any minutes he takes up are wasted opportunity for young players to step up.


How do you compare the two, wtf?
Agger was getting paid 100k and had fights with the manager. (And to be fair, Agger always says it how it is so he probably told Rodgers he was an incompetent f*** but that's for another thread.)
Agger wanted first team; Agger wasn't good enough for first team.
If you compare anyone to Agger, you compare him to his successor, the one we spunked 20m on. The one who's the "first" back up; also known as the 3rd defender.

Kolo is there as a 4th, potentially 5th back up. There's nothing wrong with him signing. Again, the work he does off the field is worth it. He's getting paid peanuts.
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Post by Curtinho Fri May 29, 2015 3:43 am

So rumours about Clyne going around now. Between 10 and 15m. I would be very ok with that; happy in fact. He's quite a good RB a position we need to fill.
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Post by McAgger Fri May 29, 2015 4:14 am

Benteke, Ings, Milner, Clyne Proud

Thank God we learned our lesson from last summer.
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Post by mr-r34 Fri May 29, 2015 6:04 am

Red Alert wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:Honestly if any more managers play Can in the back, i won't support them ever, they obv have no clue on how to use the guy.

I'm not too worried about Wisdom, the toure signing is bollocks, you want *bleep* experience don't *bleep* let Agger go, who has always been better than kolo. Paying him wages to rot on the bench is useless, any minutes he takes up are wasted opportunity for young players to step up.


How do you compare the two, wtf?
Agger was getting paid 100k and had fights with the manager. (And to be fair, Agger always says it how it is so he probably told Rodgers he was an incompetent f*** but that's for another thread.)
Agger wanted first team; Agger wasn't good enough for first team.
If you compare anyone to Agger, you compare him to his successor, the one we spunked 20m on. The one who's the "first" back up; also known as the 3rd defender.

Kolo is there as a 4th, potentially 5th back up. There's nothing wrong with him signing. Again, the work he does off the field is worth it. He's getting paid peanuts.


60k a week for someone who does nothing on the field, might ask ayre to top up my wages.

I feel 10k a week will do if i come in and give a motivational speech here and there.

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Post by mr-r34 Fri May 29, 2015 6:07 am

The Agger comparison is only there because Agger can do more off the field than kolo, he would of stayed if he was 3rd or 4th choice, it's Rodgers who kicked him out and made him feel not wanted at the club.

The whole first team excuse is rubbish. No one stays when there manager doesn't talk to them for months on end.
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Post by Red Alert Fri May 29, 2015 6:16 am

60k a week rofl

His initial contract was 35k, from all reports he's just extended it. 35k is nothing.

And Agger WANTED first team AND disliked Rodgers. He was never going to stay.

Also why ask for 10k? Rodgers gets paid 80 and cant even do a motivational speech, you might want to find yourself an agent. Smile
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Post by mr-r34 Fri May 29, 2015 6:33 am

Gimmi a source all i can see is 60k.

TBF i was going to do the speech over skype, so i didn't want to charge too much.
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Post by Art Morte Fri May 29, 2015 6:59 am

So, a round up:

- Sherwood says Benteke has a release clause, rumoured to be £32m. The rumours about Benteke are so persistent and wide that I think we can say for certain we're in for him. I can't help thinking that for £32m we could buy any striker from Europa who doesn't play for the few biggest clubs.

- The Guardian saying Southampton rejected a £10m offer from us for Clyne.

- I haven't seen reliable midfielder rumours yet.

- I wonder what's going to happen with the players who were out on loan: Ilori, Coates, Aspas (or is he bought?), Alberto, Teixeira.
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Post by Fahim89 Fri May 29, 2015 7:50 am

Clyne rumors are allover the internet. Times, Telegraph, Guardian etc. and also from the most reliable of our journalists. Barrett also suggested LFC would go back with a better bid.
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Post by iftikhar Fri May 29, 2015 8:24 am

Liverpool, the Patron Saint of the saints :wub:
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Post by Helmer Fri May 29, 2015 8:47 am

I think we have gone total nuts. First Toure and now all theae players we are being linked with. That justification for Toure off field things, better to employ a clown there at the club Laughing I would better have a youngster who is hungey and wants to prove himself when he gets opportunities. We will simply never learn !

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Post by Fahim89 Fri May 29, 2015 9:44 am

Liverpool have submitted their 2nd bid for Kovacic of €18m. But Inter want €25m for him.(Gazette Dello Sport)

hmm :coffee:
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Post by McAgger Fri May 29, 2015 10:02 am

Fahim89 wrote:Liverpool have submitted their 2nd bid for Kovacic of €18m. But Inter want €25m for him.(Gazette Dello Sport)

hmm :coffee:


Please god make this happen.
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Post by iftikhar Fri May 29, 2015 10:18 am

Don't call me James wrote:
Fahim89 wrote:Liverpool have submitted their 2nd bid for Kovacic of €18m. But Inter want €25m for him.(Gazette Dello Sport)

hmm :coffee:


Please god make this happen.
Chill mate. Delph is coming Chaka
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Post by Helmer Fri May 29, 2015 10:26 am

will Kovacic be a better signing than Pjanic hmm the only reason I can think is Pjanic seems to be injury prone. I trust Hames anyways☕

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Post by Fahim89 Fri May 29, 2015 10:34 am

iftikhar wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:
Fahim89 wrote:Liverpool have submitted their 2nd bid for Kovacic of €18m. But Inter want €25m for him.(Gazette Dello Sport)

hmm :coffee:


Please god make this happen.
Chill mate. Delph is coming Chaka


That sh** ain't happening even if our TC wants it to! Thumbs up
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Post by Art Morte Fri May 29, 2015 10:40 am

I wonder what makes us think £10m would be enough to get Clyne. I also resent the fact we're looking to buy a fourth Southampton player in the space of one year. It just feels ridiculous.
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Post by Fahim89 Fri May 29, 2015 10:41 am

Art Morte wrote:I wonder what makes us think £10m would be enough to get Clyne. I also resent the fact we're looking to buy a fourth Southampton player in the space of one year. It just feels ridiculous.


It's just our usual haggling over deals. . . same seems to be the case for Kovacic, but that is coming from the Italian media so nothing much there.
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Post by Helmer Fri May 29, 2015 1:02 pm

Well better than Jenkinson rumours Laughing

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Post by Art Morte Fri May 29, 2015 1:27 pm

Jenkinson is half-Finnish, get him ffs Proud

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