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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:54 am

Pogba actually makes senses for Madrid midfield right now, im all for it

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Post by Luca Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:23 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Pogba actually makes senses for Madrid midfield right now, im all for it


Always felt he fit Madrid's midfield best and a team like Real Madrid best

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Pogba, Ronaldo and Bale on one team... the sheer physicality (even though all 3 play pretty softly), all over 6 feet tall and beasts

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Post by S Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:25 am

If he goes there NOW, he's going to have consistency issues and get a lot of flak from the media and fans as a result. I'm sure of it.
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Post by Luca Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:27 am

S wrote:If he goes there NOW, he's going to have consistency issues and get a lot of flak from the media and fans as a result. I'm sure of it.


Doesn't and hasn't that happened to every Real Madrid signing?
I've never seen a player who isn't openly hated by at least a small segment of their own fans before

The club definitely has their own way of doing things, let's just say

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Post by S Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:32 am

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S wrote:If he goes there NOW, he's going to have consistency issues and get a lot of flak from the media and fans as a result. I'm sure of it.


Doesn't and hasn't that happened to every Real Madrid signing?
I've never seen a player who isn't openly hated by at least a small segment of their own fans before

The club definitely has their own way of doing things, let's just say


Not every signing though. For example Ozil was loved by their fans. But probably the expectations were lesser so that helped.

Pogba will be going there as their galactico AND the most expensive player in the world. I'm expecting a mediocre first season from him if he decides to go there NOW. Right now imo is not the ideal time for him to make that switch to Real Madrid. He's incredibly overhyped right now.
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Post by Luca Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:41 am

Ok, almost every signing?

I agree he's not ready but in any case, he's never going to merit that price tag on football alone, he merits it based on marketing. The hype actually helps both him and Juventus right now, if he wants to move, there isn't a better time to sell.

Add on an international tournament where people can see the odd flick, shit, Drake posted a picture wearing a Pogba jersey, that probably added 20M (Juventus on Instagram even re-posted it, thanks champagnepapi).

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Post by Firenze Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:43 am

Rooney is available once you sell Pogba @ JuveFans Proud
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Post by Luca Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:46 am

Firenze wrote:Rooney is available once you sell Pogba @ JuveFans Proud


We have enough central midfielders Proud

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Post by S Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:50 am

Luca wrote:
Firenze wrote:Rooney is available once you sell Pogba @ JuveFans Proud


We have enough central midfielders Proud


Even if we needed another midfielder, surely Benzema would be a better option ?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:36 am

I can only repeat myself. God knows I'm glad Raiola isn't the agent of a top young Bayern player, like Alaba.

I don't know what I would do if he was. I think I would actually legitimately plotting to kill him. what a *bleep* pain in the ass.

What he's pulling with Mkhi and Dortmund too at the moment Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:10 am

Why wouldn't he go? It's his profession. He's going to make a portion of the massive transfer fee + he's going to make one of the top wages in the world + his marketing income is going to maximize as well.

The idea is to go the best organization possible, for the best wages possible as early as possible... that's why every single one of us goes to work. Why should a footballer be any different?

No footballer is ever going to refuse this kind of offer... not a single one.

This "he should wait a year", "he's not ready", etc. is just garbage talk that fans get into. It has no basis in reality for a professional player.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:14 am

Calm down sports. Cold shower or something.
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Post by Andrew Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:20 am

Isco + Morata + 40 million and I will gift wrap and send him to Madrid myself Proud

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:26 am

Andrew_p wrote:Isco + Morata + 40 million and I will gift wrap and send him to Madrid myself Proud


Rather take the 120m IMO.
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Post by Andrew Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:45 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Andrew_p wrote:Isco + Morata + 40 million and I will gift wrap and send him to Madrid myself Proud


Rather take the 120m IMO.
I would too but the thing is clubs will know that we've got 120 ready to spend and they will ask for their players way more than they would otherwise, so I don't think we would buy more than a couple of top quality players even with 120m hmm

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:20 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:I can only repeat myself. God knows I'm glad Raiola isn't the agent of a top young Bayern player

You gotta hand it to him, though. He actually convinced the world that Pogba is worth 120m.

A player with few, rare even, scattered moments of brilliance spattered over pointless flashiness, inconsistency and subpar performances.

For a ground-breaking sum like that I would expect somebody like Ronaldo, not a raw, unproven, insanely overhyped player with questionable professionalism, delusional tendencies and baseless greed.


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Post by Adit Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:10 pm

If people have problems with Isco dr byibbling too much and getting dispossessed then I can only imagine what kind of reaction Pogba will get .

Gotta give it to Juventus, selling a 60 million player for 120 Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:23 pm

And for all those reasons... Juve fans are begging that their club refuse the 120 mil and keep Pogba Laughing :facepalm:
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Post by S Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:31 pm

I'm not convinced yet this will go through. Time will tell i guess.
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Post by S Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:32 pm

sportsczy wrote:And for all those reasons...  Juve fans are begging that their club refuse the 120 mil and keep Pogba Laughing :facepalm:


Its too big a sum but Pogba's marketing appeal alone is a huge factor in trying to hold on to him as tight as possible. His hype is Neymar level right now.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:34 pm

Naturally, in a desperate attempt to generate as many clicks as possible, news outlets intentionally left out important parts of the interview, parts that have now been published in their entirety on Marca:

We are talking with three teams and Paul likes the sporting projects of some of those
We are in the initial phase, it's not a negotiation
Both sides know what they want and we shall see if we complete a deal or it ends in divorce
Sheiks, everybody (are interested in him)

So there's still hope. We're not negotiating, we're just weighing our options just like everybody else who are now talking with his agent as well.

I was worried at first because I thought we had started the negotiations, and we all know what usually happens when Perez starts those. But now that we've learned it's all just talk, and that we're not the only club talking with them, I can relax a bit.

Let's hope we back out very quickly and go after better targets.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:40 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:I can only repeat myself. God knows I'm glad Raiola isn't the agent of a top young Bayern player

You gotta hand it to him, though. He actually convinced the world that Pogba is worth 120m.

A player with few, rare even, scattered moments of brilliance spattered over pointless flashiness, inconsistency and subpar performances.

For a ground-breaking sum like that I would expect somebody like Ronaldo, not a raw, unproven, insanely overhyped player with questionable professionalism, delusional tendencies and baseless greed.




I think you're being far too harsh on Pogba, which is an understandable emotion given the hype, but is eventually just the other side of the hype coin.

Pogba is legit IMO, a true top player in the making. Not more and not less.
I can understand why you#d want to go against the grain and hate a bit if a player is hyped like that, I do and did it too, but in the end with a player like Pogba, the only thing that makes sense is to ignore the media hype and still appreciate what a spectacular player the kid in fact is.

If we can't enjoy a kid like Pogba playing some beautiful, spectacular, even if maybe inconsistent, football, we've let all the noise around the sport spoil our perception IMO.

Noise which to a large extent does come from Pogba#s own agent though.
I've thought about it too, whether Raiola's approach of maximum media obnoxiousness does right by his clients.
In a way, it certainly does, but I'm not completely convinced.

Whether you want Pogba at Real, how much should be paid or not, whether he's a fit, etc pp, are different stories.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:50 pm

Not been watching the Euros but Pogba's been fantastic all season and even against Bayern he was fantastic.

No idea why people still criticize him.
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Post by Glory Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:11 pm

Please make it happen. Go Uncle Flah!! I'm firmly behind team mehdrid in this one for a change. Kid is legit. 120 mil. Pay it. Get it done asap/ffs. bounce

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Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:31 pm

Glory wrote:Please make it happen. Go Uncle Flah!! I'm firmly behind team mehdrid in this one for a change. Kid is legit. 120 mil. Pay it. Get it done asap/ffs. bounce

You're only saying this because he'd likely end up with City otherwise Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:49 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Glory wrote:Please make it happen. Go Uncle Flah!! I'm firmly behind team mehdrid in this one for a change. Kid is legit. 120 mil. Pay it. Get it done asap/ffs. bounce

You're only saying this because he'd likely end up with City otherwise Laughing


Man. And here I was convinced for years that Pogba to PSG was a done dealiaux Sad Sad
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