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Post by Sina Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:38 pm

Man City 64 pts,6 Games to play

Man Utd (H)
Middlesbrough (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Leicester (H)

Watford (A)
West Brom (H)

Liverpool 66 pts,5 to play

Crystal Palace (H)
Watford (A)
Southampton (H)
West Ham (A)
Middlesbrough (H)

Man Utd 57 pts,8 to play

Chelsea (H)
Burnley (A)
Man City (A)

Swansea (H)
Arsenal (A)
Spurs (A)
Southampton (A)

Crystal Palace (H)

Arsenal 54 pts ,8 to play

Middlesbrough (A)
Leicester (H)
Spurs (A)
Man Utd (H)
Stoke (A)
Everton (H)
Southampton (A)
Sunderland (H)

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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Liverpool will win all their 5 remaining games without any issues. 3rd is theirs.

City will win 5/6 of their matches. 4th is more or less theirs depending on if they beat United or not.

United will most likely win the EL

Meanwhile we'll be lucky to win even 2 of our remaining matches
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Post by Jay29 Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:53 pm

We're not getting CL, that's for sure. I'm more concerned about the EL spots and whether we'll have to qualify or not.

We need to finish 5th or win the FA Cup to get automatic group stage qualification. Anything other than that will require us to play a qualifier.

7th will definitely be an EL spot this year, unless United somehow drop down to 8th.


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Post by Sina Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:54 pm

how can we pass up on Europa league?
New manager + no European football
more time to train and prepare team between matches

Arsene Wenger + Europa league that is though :brickwall:
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Post by Jay29 Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:55 pm

Only way we can not qualify is by finishing 4th or 8th Laughing

Or United finish 8th but win the EL, and we finish 7th without winning the FA Cup.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:52 pm

We need to throw it away by sending kids or something if we qualify.


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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:56 pm

Does it really matter where we finish?

Next season Mourinho, Conte, Klopp, Pochettino, Pep will be in their 2nd/3rd season, with no big names leaving and new big shiny signings while Arsenal are stuck with Wenger and Alexis/Õzil leave.

We're set to compete against Everton for the rest of Wenger's career.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:00 pm

Looks like it. I am not sure we'll be able to get back in the top 4.

Pep is 100% winning the league next season. Mourinho will only get better. Klopp will finally sign big players. Pochettino has Spurs figured. Conte will buy better players too.

We'll be signing more free transfer players and players from non-league

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Post by El Gunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:13 pm

RG wrote:Pep is 100% winning the league next season.

How do you know this.
He's been awful this year.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:19 pm

He has nearly figured it out. This season was his awakening. He is a WC manager. Won't repeat the same mistakes. Will buy better players. His attack is 100% sorted. Defence is the only issue which he will sort it before next season.

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Post by El Gunner Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:27 pm

I disagree on his attack being one hundred percent sorted. Aguero has not been all that this season, and you can never bank on him with hundred percent certainty over a long season with his injury record. Only Sane and Jesus seems to be promising signs. Silva and De Bruyne have regressed this season. Pep seems unclear on what to do with Sterling. Yaya is done for it. Don't know how City's midfield will look next season, as Pep might want to get someone else in there.

Problems are far from just being their defence.

If anyone, could see Jose making a push for the title next season. He certainly knows how not to lose a lot of games throughout the season, just needs to find better players to knick him more wins.
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Post by Nishankly Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:54 pm

I saw the games where Jesus played, Their front 4 was exactly the same as Liverpool in terms of goal scorers, movement and dynamism. I know i'm basing it on a very short period of time but I think attack is nearly sorted and we'll see that once Jesus returns for a few games at the end of this season and Frauguero goes back to the bench.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:10 pm

EG i don't agree with Sterling, from what i read he's one of the few City players who have been consistent through out the year and his numbers back it up.

Anyway i feel like from what i have seen just reading stuff online that they have been a lot better in the second half of the year but their wastefulness and individual mistakes defensively have cost them.

Also this Chelsea smacks of Chelsea when Mourinho won it a couple of years ago, I.E. they did enough in the first half of the year and strolled in the second half because no one was really consistent. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they don't win it next season.

I don't expect them to massively drop off or anything but i reckon someone else is winning it, if not City then someone else.
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Post by McAgger Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:35 pm

I'm actually with EG on this one. Unless they get some better defenders, DM, and GK I can't see them winning the league. Not with the way Conte's team is oiled.

Sure City's attack is coming along well but way too many problems everywhere else.
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Post by Sina Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:25 pm

Premier League Match Pack MatchDay 2

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Post by Sina Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:34 pm

Top 6 squad depth

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Post by Eman Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:39 pm

City spent a lot of money but the guys they signed were benchwarmers at their previous club or are relatively unknown. A lot of hype over money spent, not proven class. Their major ace in the hole is having Jesus from day 1. With Alexis they'd win the league but without him, I'm doubtful.

Spurs moved stadiums. That alone will keep them from winning (as well as being Spurs in general).

Liverpool are scary going forward but that defence / keeper will cost them dearly throughout the season.

Utd bought well and are currently on fire but I expect them to return to more 1-0 and 1-1 games when they begin facing better sides and dealing with Europe. For me, they lost Zlatan and gained Lukaku which is a step down - main improvement was Matic. I think top 4 but they won't win.

Chelsea are the best team and I think they will win despite getting worse this offseason. The X factor that could hurt them is dealing with Europe this year.

We have a competitive squad that doesn't perform. Tactically and motivation wise, it's not there. If we play backups in the Europa League and figure out our playing style, we have a good chance. Success and failure will rest on Arsene's shoulders.
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Post by Twoism Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:32 am



Rough night for Ox
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:05 am

O dear Sad Is it bad that I feel sorry for him. He was just finding his feet at Arsenal. I cannot see them being as patient with him given that they spunk out 40 mil to get his signature. Still wish him the best though. Somewhere in there is a really good player..... That player hardly ever decides to show up.
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:12 am

Not sure who is the biggest dumbass, who ever at Liverpool thought 40mil was a good price for Oxlade-Chamberlain (on his final year) or Ox himself thinking he could waltz into Liverpool's midfield or be forgiven for such performances as last night's.

It won't get better for him either, next year Keita joins Liverpool and he has 0 chance of playing ahead of Salah/Mane. I hope he enjoys being James Milner's future replacement, if he even achieves being that.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:33 pm

All banter aside, I think he will be alright. He has talent and will show when he plays with better players imo.

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Post by mani88 Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:55 pm

No other club will give him the time that he got at Arsenal. He will be dropped at first instance after a few average/mediocre performances which was rarely the case at Arsenal.
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